• Some truth from Bryce Edwards.

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 11 23:48:43 2023
    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Wed Apr 12 22:56:57 2023
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/

    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 04:59:50 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 12 19:52:37 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...
    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/

    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The >disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    But of course everything in that post from dickbot is a lie. He knows it and everybody else knows it so why does he bother? Any answers?

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Apr 12 13:36:53 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:52:39 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...
    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/

    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The >disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    But of course everything in that post from dickbot is a lie. He knows it and everybody else knows it so why does he bother? Any answers?
    It could be it suffers from advanced stupidity like so many in the Labour party..

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Apr 13 12:54:30 2023
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have eveidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 13 02:45:40 2023
    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat
    to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to
    be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some
    views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have eveidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the
    debate.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Apr 13 16:47:25 2023
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >>>> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >>>> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >>>> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >>>> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat
    to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to >be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some >views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government! >> Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the >debate.

    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 13 05:02:37 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...


    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >>>>> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >>>>> National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >>>>> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >>>>> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have >>>>> been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project >>>>and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you >>>>are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously; >>>>> but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by >>>>> some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >>>>> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat >>to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to >>be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some >>views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and >>>>theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government! >>> Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the >>debate.

    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.
    I would be very surprised if they were.
    However they have paid a lot of money toStuff and other mouthpieces. I do not believe they should have done that.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 21:40:03 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:58:03 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have eveidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?
    As you well know Plunket and the crew on theplatform have received nothing from the government unlike your darling Spinoff who've received some large government bribes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Apr 13 17:22:22 2023
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:40:03 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:58:03?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have eveidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?
    As you well know Plunket and the crew on theplatform have received nothing from the government unlike your darling Spinoff who've received some large government bribes.

    So why did you claim the government had paid theplatform (and others)
    $million ???

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Apr 13 17:26:08 2023
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:24:20 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:02:41?PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...


    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >> >>>>> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >> >>>>> National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >> >>>>> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >> >>>>> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have >> >>>>> been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project
    and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you
    are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously; >> >>>>> but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by >> >>>>> some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >> >>>>> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat >> >>to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to
    be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some >> >>views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and
    theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the
    debate.

    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.
    I would be very surprised if they were.
    However they have paid a lot of money toStuff and other mouthpieces. I do not
    believe they should have done that.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.
    It's called bribery in amongst honest governments..

    What is called bribery, JOhn BOwes? Not paying $million to
    theplatform? (or to the other websites you mentioned). Were you
    deliberately lying, or did you just make another mistake?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 23:03:30 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:25:52 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:40:03 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:58:03?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to
    keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >> >> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying
    twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >> >> National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >> >> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >> >> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have >> >> been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously; >> >> but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by >> >> some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >> >> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes
    that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of
    the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .
    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have eveidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?
    As you well know Plunket and the crew on theplatform have received nothing from the government unlike your darling Spinoff who've received some large government bribes.
    So why did you claim the government had paid theplatform (and others) $million ???
    I've answered your question already Rich. It's pretty rich coming from a feral twit who hardly ever supplies a cite. Have a look at mine. But don't even bother to apologise because we all know it'd just be another lie from you Rich...

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 23:07:47 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:29:38 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:24:20 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:02:41?PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >> >>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...


    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to >> >>>>> keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do
    not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying >> >>>>> twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the
    National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those
    websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The >> >>>>> disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links >> >>>>> that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while >> >>>>> those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now
    be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have
    been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project
    and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you
    are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously;
    but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by
    some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by
    those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes >> >>>>> that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of >> >>>>> the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat
    to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to
    be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some
    views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and
    theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of >> >>> the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the >> >>debate.

    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.
    I would be very surprised if they were.
    However they have paid a lot of money toStuff and other mouthpieces. I do not
    believe they should have done that.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.
    It's called bribery in amongst honest governments..
    What is called bribery, JOhn BOwes? Not paying $million to
    theplatform? (or to the other websites you mentioned). Were you
    deliberately lying, or did you just make another mistake?
    No Rich because you're now lying! Theplatform got nothing. However the rest of the main stream media got $millions to only publish what the government wanted published. THAT Rich is bribery in every right thinking mind. You won't understand because you'
    re incapable of being right!

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 12 22:23:27 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 4:50:58 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to >>>> keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >>>> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying >>>> twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >>>> National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >>>> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The
    disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links
    that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while
    those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >>>> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have >>>> been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously; >>>> but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by >>>> some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >>>> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes >>>> that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of >>>> the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat >to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to
    be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some >views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government! >> Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of
    the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the >debate.
    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.
    As usual you lie Rich! I never claimed the government was paying those you've mentioned. What I did say that as usual you conveniently don't address is that your ever loving Spinoff is shoulder deep in the trough! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/
    FtkLuoPakAAk2ar?format=jpg&name=large.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Apr 12 22:24:20 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:02:41 PM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 13 Apr 2023 02:45:40 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-13, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes >>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 11:00:31?PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:48:43 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not for the weak stomached Rich...


    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/04/12/bryce-edwards-the-need-to-take-disinformation-seriously/
    It really does demonstrate a failing of the free market system - to >>>>> keep the money rolling a small number of people have found it
    necessary to try to find and apply a solution to problems that they do >>>>> not want to identify - and the government is not falling for paying >>>>> twice for the same work. They are smarter than those who believe the >>>>> National disinformation websites - which have a close linkage to those >>>>> websites most often referred to by John Bowes, JohnO and Tony. The >>>>> disinformation project did some good work in identifying the links >>>>> that were used by the Parliament protestors and others; and while >>>>> those links need to continue to be monitored, the main work has to now >>>>> be directed to the current situation, and some of that work will have >>>>> been taken over by security services.

    Typical politicised bullshit from nz.gens very own disinformation project
    and Labour propaganda dispenser!
    You've just demonstrated once again what a politicised fucking imbecile you
    are Rich...

    So Edwards is right - we still need to take disinformation seriously; >>>>> but I believe a rational look at some of the websites referred to by >>>>> some on nz.general points out the shallow nonsense that is believed by >>>>> those posters - sadly those same people have gone down rabbit holes >>>>> that shield them from common-sense - they appear to believe some of >>>>> the nonsense, and do not recognise their own faults . . .

    You conclusion Rich is a vast jump. In the real world some people may wnat >>to go down the rabbit hole to see Alice. (The mad hatters tea party seems to
    be above ground).

    Others may just be curious.

    In a real world there will be all sorts of views. Thus some will see some >>views as being stupid, and vica versa. Enjoy your reality.



    You mean like your posting links to norightturn, thestranded and >>>>theplatform all of which are rabidly pro
    Labour and theplatform has received $million from your Labour government!
    Sean Plunket will be delighted to hear that - do you have evidence of >>> the money he received from government, Bowes?

    Do you Rich?

    Think about it, the Government is not likely to pay boths sides of the >>debate.

    I agree Gordon. As far as I am aware, the government is not paying
    money to any of the "political" websites such as The Standard, No
    Right Turn, Kiwiblog, PublicAddress, The Platform, Pundit, etc etc.
    I would be very surprised if they were.
    However they have paid a lot of money toStuff and other mouthpieces. I do not
    believe they should have done that.

    Essentially John Bowes just makes shit up - and then vomits it in
    posts to nz.general.
    It's called bribery in amongst honest governments..

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