• Minimum wage!

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 2 13:43:10 2023
    I doubt if anyone who supports minimum wage think things through. Sure most on the minimum wage need a boost from time to time. But every time government boosts the minimum wage all it manages to do in reality is leave even more on the minimum wage than
    before they raised it!

    Now lets have a look back in time to the days of Rob Muldoon, the previous most hated PM, back then we got dollar value pay rises. Sure those on the higher wages bitched because they thought it was bugger all. But to those at the lower end of the wage
    table it was invariably bloody handy.

    Why did we go to a % pay increase system. Simply greed by those on higher salaries. People like politicians! Those who over the years have increased the gap between the haves and those struggling to make ends meet. Those who've left us in todays system
    with a vast divide between the struggling and those cruising through life.

    Maybe it's time to go back to counting dollars instead of percentages. We will/can never close the pay gap now but we can be more honest about it surely...

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Mon Apr 3 00:19:16 2023
    On 2023-04-02, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I doubt if anyone who supports minimum wage think things
    through. Sure most on the minimum wage need a boost from
    time to time. But every time government boosts the minimum
    wage all it manages to do in reality is leave even more on
    the minimum wage than before they raised it!

    However the new min wage is higher. Hopefully those who were slightly above
    the min wage will now have a arguement to get a pay rise.


    Now lets have a look back in time to the days of Rob
    Muldoon, the previous most hated PM, back then we got
    dollar value pay rises. Sure those on the higher wages
    bitched because they thought it was bugger all.
    But to those at the lower end of the wage table it was
    invariably bloody handy.

    This was really just a form of increasing the low wages relative to the
    higher wages folks.


    Why did we go to a % pay increase system. Simply greed
    by those on higher salaries. People like politicians!
    Those who over the years have increased the gap between
    the haves and those struggling to make ends meet.
    Those who've left us in todays system with a vast divide
    between the struggling and those cruising through life.

    % wise or pay increases are all the same thing, it is about the amounts. $1
    % extra in $100 is a a 1% wage rise. % tend to be used as they are more
    meaningful.


    Maybe it's time to go back to counting dollars instead
    of percentages. We will/can never close the pay gap now
    but we can be more honest about it surely...

    Raising the min wage is about having enough money to live on. To keep them
    out of poverty.

    The fat cat syndrome is another ball park.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon Apr 3 17:25:46 2023
    On 3 Apr 2023 00:19:16 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-04-02, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I doubt if anyone who supports minimum wage think things
    through. Sure most on the minimum wage need a boost from
    time to time. But every time government boosts the minimum
    wage all it manages to do in reality is leave even more on
    the minimum wage than before they raised it!

    However the new min wage is higher. Hopefully those who were slightly above >the min wage will now have a arguement to get a pay rise.

    And then everything else goes up. It's called inflation, and it has
    become very fashionable of late.

    Bill.

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