• Rich more evidence to refute your lies!

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 21:22:28 2023
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Fri Mar 31 06:50:01 2023
    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in
    the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Mar 31 23:02:12 2023
    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in >the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms >the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it
    provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised
    through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 31 03:27:28 2023
    On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:05:51 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in >the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms
    the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.
    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.
    Bullshit! It provides more balance than we've ever seen from you Rich in all your years posting political bullshit here! JohnO provided another link so it's not unbalanced and if your head wasn't so far up your rectum you might actually have a clue of
    what went on!
    Posie Parker was having a meeting of women to give them a chance to speak out. You men in dresses didn't like the truth so you all attacked the meeting. Broke down barriers and behaved like the feral animals from the lefts river of filth where you all
    usually live. Nothing you post can make you look like anything but a totalitarian, feral, woke, lying opponent to fair speech and fairness. You have no understanding of what freedom of speech means or do you comprehend that the tran view was nothing but
    the sort of garbage we usually get from you Rich. Now I suggest you finally follow Tony's good advice and fuck off!

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Mar 31 03:28:05 2023
    On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 7:50:04 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/
    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    Yup and Rich is just to bloody thick to comprehend it...

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 31 18:46:11 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an >>>event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral
    prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in >>the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms >>the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it >provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised >through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.
    Your posts on the subject are also one-sided and contain no balance. But apparently that is OK and Posie is not permitted that privilege.
    There is no such thing as "disinformation far right dissemination systems" it is also appalling English.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Mar 31 14:01:07 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:46:13 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an
    event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral
    prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in
    the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms
    the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it >provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised >through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.
    Your posts on the subject are also one-sided and contain no balance. But apparently that is OK and Posie is not permitted that privilege.
    There is no such thing as "disinformation far right dissemination systems" it
    is also appalling English.
    Laughing at Rich's stupidity. He's bitching about lack of cites as usual. however the one cite he posted in his attempt to refute the truth was from a government propaganda site. Rather sad that the imbecile after all this time and all the evidence still
    thinks the government is above the law and speaks nothing but the, MWAHAHAHA!. truth. Probably explains why Rich is such a persistent liar...

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 10:25:16 2023
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 23:02:12 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in >>the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms >>the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it >provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised >through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.

    Rich I am a little surprised that you support the violent suppression
    of a viewpoint from Posie Parker. She was invited to speak at a
    protest meeting in Auckland and the Police failed to act to uphold the
    law. Apparently if you have a certain view the Police have no
    obligation to maintain law and order, and it is OK for death threats
    to be carried out.

    PM Hipkins had the good sense to stay out of any decision to deny
    entry to NZ for Posie Parker. He has also had the good sense to order
    an inquiry into OIA response issues and he should also have the good
    sense to ask the IPCA to investigate Police actions at the Posie
    Parker protest.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 11:38:04 2023
    On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 10:25:16 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 23:02:12 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/

    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in >>>the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms >>>the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it >>provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised >>through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.

    Rich I am a little surprised that you support the violent suppression
    of a viewpoint from Posie Parker. She was invited to speak at a
    protest meeting in Auckland and the Police failed to act to uphold the
    law. Apparently if you have a certain view the Police have no
    obligation to maintain law and order, and it is OK for death threats
    to be carried out.
    Not at all. I share concerns that the police could have done more to
    prevent violence directed towards K-J KM or her supporters, or towards
    others by "supporters" of K-J KM. Unfortunately there were clashes in
    both directions, with instigators not always able to be identified as
    to support. Davidson for example is blamed for being on a pedetrian
    crossing when she was hit; apparently by the handlbar of one of
    Tamaki's bikie gang - they were riding in convoy and were otherwise
    reasonably disciplined as they travelled to the site of multiple
    protests; most believe this should have been avoinded by the biker.

    K-J KM is however just as entitled to voice her views as others should
    be free to voice theirs. It is not clear that she was "invited" by
    anyone; my impression is that her "organisation" arranged and
    publicised it, just as a ''counter-protest'' was arranged and
    publicised by others. The police did well to allow events to unfold,
    but I believe they should have become involved when physical violence
    started - it would have been good to have had a few people arrested to
    further remind people of the limits of free expression. It is
    noticeable that the "Free Speech Coalition" have largely been silent
    on this event - they recognise that there are generally accepted
    community limits of ''free speech'', but are not prepared to admit any limitations at all, as "Free Speech" is not their ultimate aim - it is
    a cover organisation for political propoganda led by Farrar and
    Williams, pushing extreme libertarian views.





    PM Hipkins had the good sense to stay out of any decision to deny
    entry to NZ for Posie Parker. He has also had the good sense to order
    an inquiry into OIA response issues and he should also have the good
    sense to ask the IPCA to investigate Police actions at the Posie
    Parker protest.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 31 16:26:11 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 11:41:46 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 10:25:16 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 23:02:12 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 31 Mar 2023 06:50:01 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-03-31, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know you can't help yourself defending the undefendable but claiming an event wasn't violent when it was just makes you look like an unscientific feral prat!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fear-and-loathing-in-new-zealand/ >>>
    That article is worth while reading as it is written by Posie, the woman in
    the centre of this day of shame. Adds some balance to the story and confirms
    the events as reported in the Stuff.

    Day of Shame sums it up.

    It is a one-sided opinion, and nothing that would not be expected - it >>provides no balance at all as those views were already well advertised >>through the disinformation far right dissemination systems.

    Rich I am a little surprised that you support the violent suppression
    of a viewpoint from Posie Parker. She was invited to speak at a
    protest meeting in Auckland and the Police failed to act to uphold the >law. Apparently if you have a certain view the Police have no
    obligation to maintain law and order, and it is OK for death threats
    to be carried out.
    Not at all. I share concerns that the police could have done more to
    prevent violence directed towards K-J KM or her supporters, or towards others by "supporters" of K-J KM. Unfortunately there were clashes in
    both directions, with instigators not always able to be identified as
    to support. Davidson for example is blamed for being on a pedetrian
    crossing when she was hit; apparently by the handlbar of one of
    Tamaki's bikie gang - they were riding in convoy and were otherwise reasonably disciplined as they travelled to the site of multiple
    protests; most believe this should have been avoinded by the biker.

    As usual you lie Rich! First: Like Ardern your caring is just an act! Two you claim the motorcyclist that supposedly (the evidence denies the hit) hit the feral racist Davidson was from Tamaki's protest with no evidence to back it up and there being a
    strong possibility it was a NZGreen piece of street theatre to support the cancelled Shaws prediction of violence during this election cycle.

    K-J KM is however just as entitled to voice her views as others should
    be free to voice theirs. It is not clear that she was "invited" by
    anyone; my impression is that her "organisation" arranged and
    publicised it, just as a ''counter-protest'' was arranged and
    publicised by others. The police did well to allow events to unfold,
    but I believe they should have become involved when physical violence started - it would have been good to have had a few people arrested to further remind people of the limits of free expression. It is
    noticeable that the "Free Speech Coalition" have largely been silent
    on this event - they recognise that there are generally accepted
    community limits of ''free speech'', but are not prepared to admit any limitations at all, as "Free Speech" is not their ultimate aim - it is
    a cover organisation for political propoganda led by Farrar and
    Williams, pushing extreme libertarian views.

    So why did you deny the violence of the men in dresses to prevent K-J K-M saying anything? Rich your crocodile tears don't convince anyone of your sincerity because your lack of that was seen years ago! Your hatred of free speech and support of Labours
    efforts to kill it are legendary. Just like your record of lying!


    PM Hipkins had the good sense to stay out of any decision to deny
    entry to NZ for Posie Parker. He has also had the good sense to order
    an inquiry into OIA response issues and he should also have the good
    sense to ask the IPCA to investigate Police actions at the Posie
    Parker protest.

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