JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a
false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate
at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?They would be weeping tears of frustration. They were good caring folk, the current Green lot are communist traitors to the original Green party.
May they rot in hell.
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a >false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.They would be weeping tears of frustration. They were good caring folk, the current Green lot are communist traitors to the original Green party.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate >at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast
majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:53:16 -0700 (PDT), John BowesAuckland just showed what a river of filth you, the spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own Green/Labour nazi!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.See:
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >> You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
I have yet to see anyone identify any right for any woman to have safe spaces or the right to speak - except those who want to remove rightsThank you Rich for confirming you are in fact an anti feminine, anti freedom supporting piece of filth advocating against women's rights because a bunch of cross dressing things get all grizzly because they make women feel unsafe! You Rich are just a
from a very small group who identify as trans - the Posy Parker event
was clearly being supported by some very stange people, and her aim
appeared to be to try to get those rights removed from trans people. .
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Auckland just showed what a river of filth you, the spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own Green/Labour nazi!
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that >without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that theyThe views NZ doesn't need Rich are your anti female, anti free speech and support of racism waffles! I see your lack of comprehension and understanding don't accept that women are entitled to safe places not infested with the sort of feral activity seen
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >>>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >>majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >>anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue,
and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most
violence against women is from white males,
there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women.
In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO.
Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge thatThank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Auckland just showed what a river of filth you, the spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own Green/Labour nazi!
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >>>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >>majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >>anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most >violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and >discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
On 2023-03-27, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:Auckland just showed what a river of filth you, the spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own Green/Labour nazi!
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.See:
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >> You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
It is only by allow dialogue that the people will understand the other side. You do not need to agree with them, or say it not for you, however as they are human, thus you need to respect them. Same rules apply with religion.Lets not lump trans in with the gays. I know several gays who are absolutely disgusted with the small group of trans who have pretty well put NZ back twenty years as well as destroyed what mana NZ has in the world. We have yet to see the repercussions
Going back to the time when Fran Wild was introducing her Bill, there was great dedade going on a making gay activity being legal. All the arguments cane out and the concern that this was not natural and should not be allowed was still to the for until the end.
There was a concern also that with all these gay men on the lose you as a male would be "targeted".
The law passed and slowly the closet doors opened and they mixed opening in society. In the time since we worked through all the small details of life with some more diversity.
Gays are now to the point that they can turn up anywhere, by your MP, as the new worker, etc.
At present we are going through the same thing at the next level of complexity, except we have this tribalism thrown in. Makes it a great deal more complicated.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO. >>>See: >>>https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >>>
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >>majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >>anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that >>without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that >white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearlyIt was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most >violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She
cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that theyAs I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not >understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to >have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy >Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and >discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New >Zealanders wish to be seen.
required (eg toilets) It was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one
would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
--Quite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that should never be changed!
Crash McBash
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:16:24?AM UTC+13, Crash wrote:The only people that should feel smeared are thos that have been
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >> >>>
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast
majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why -
anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
And she has.It was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most
violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She
cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
She also seems to be lying about the supposed hit by the motorcycle. As it happened some time before she made her racist speech. An interesting thing about that is how she comes across if you turn off the sound and watch the body language of her and hersupporters. They were hyped. The thought that came to mind they were looking foreword to seeing someone they didn't like getting dealt to!
That has been one example given to explain her views - what practicalAs I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and
discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
required (eg toilets)
I have not seen any evidence that anyone from the Trans community asIt was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one
would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
Quite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that should never be changed!
--
Crash McBash
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours.
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a >>false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist >>hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See: >https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:40:57 AM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:Auckland just showed what a river of filth you, the spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own Green/Labour nazi!
On 2023-03-27, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little mind. The meeting in
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.See:
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >> >> You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
It is only by allow dialogue that the people will understand the other side. >> You do not need to agree with them, or say it not for you, however as they >> are human, thus you need to respect them. Same rules apply with religion.Lets not lump trans in with the gays. I know several gays who are absolutely disgusted with the small group of trans who have pretty well put NZ back twenty years as well as destroyed what mana NZ has in the world. We have
Going back to the time when Fran Wild was introducing her Bill, there was
great dedade going on a making gay activity being legal. All the arguments >> cane out and the concern that this was not natural and should not be allowed >> was still to the for until the end.
There was a concern also that with all these gay men on the lose you as a
male would be "targeted".
The law passed and slowly the closet doors opened and they mixed opening in >> society. In the time since we worked through all the small details of life >> with some more diversity.
Gays are now to the point that they can turn up anywhere, by your MP, as the >> new worker, etc.
At present we are going through the same thing at the next level of
complexity, except we have this tribalism thrown in. Makes it a great deal >> more complicated.
yet to see the repercussions from the trans violent action and you can gaurantee it'll hurt!
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:53:16 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou cannot justify that - I dare you! Go ahead.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 8:41:10?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>The rabbit hole is all yours and the spinoffs Rich! The so called rights for >>trannies shouldn't cancel out either rights for women to have safe spaces or >>the right to speak even if it offends what passes for your delicate little >>mind. The meeting in Auckland just showed what a river of filth you, the >>spinoff and the trans/rainbow community wallow in along with your very own >>Green/Labour nazi!
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, andYou appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist >>> >hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
I have yet to see anyone identify any right for any woman to have safe
spaces or the right to speak - except those who want to remove rights
from a very small group who identify as trans - the Posy Parker event
was clearly being supported by some very stange people, and her aim
appeared to be to try to get those rights removed from trans people. .
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:52:29 -0700 (PDT), John BowesYou are still trying to change the subject Shame on you.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:16:24?AM UTC+13, Crash wrote:The only people that should feel smeared are thos that have been
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and >>> >>>>makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist,
misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens? >>> >>>
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast
majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why -
anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
violent against a woman - I did not feel smeared; I am sorry you see
yourself in that group.
And she has.It was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that
white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most
violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She
cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
That has been one example given to explain her views - what practical
She also seems to be lying about the supposed hit by the motorcycle. As it >>happened some time before she made her racist speech. An interesting thing >>about that is how she comes across if you turn off the sound and watch the body
language of her and her supporters. They were hyped. The thought that came to >>mind they were looking foreword to seeing someone they didn't like getting >>dealt to!
As I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to
have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and
discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
required (eg toilets)
effect do you think such a view suggests happen?
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
again what effect do you expect that would have, and do you believe
such a requirement would be justified?
I have not seen any evidence that anyone from the Trans community asIt was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one
would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
you put it was present, but there were certainly a lot of other
organisations there: >https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
Quite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males >>cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from >>testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that >>should never be changed!
--
Crash McBash
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:52:29 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:16:24?AM UTC+13, Crash wrote:The only people that should feel smeared are thos that have been
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast
majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why -
anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
violent against a woman - I did not feel smeared; I am sorry you see yourself in that group.
And she has.It was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that >> >white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most >> >violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She
cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
her supporters. They were hyped. The thought that came to mind they were looking foreword to seeing someone they didn't like getting dealt to!She also seems to be lying about the supposed hit by the motorcycle. As it happened some time before she made her racist speech. An interesting thing about that is how she comes across if you turn off the sound and watch the body language of her and
That has been one example given to explain her views - what practicalAs I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to >> >have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and
discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
required (eg toilets)
effect do you think such a view suggests happen?
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
again what effect do you expect that would have, and do you believe
such a requirement would be justified?
I have not seen any evidence that anyone from the Trans community asIt was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one
would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
you put it was present, but there were certainly a lot of other organisations there: https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currentlyQuite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that should never be changed!
--
Crash McBash
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich is just a shit house rat typical of the feral bastards and bitches he worships in parliament! He's obviously a victim of Labours failure to address mental health. Just like Marama Davidson and her cohorts who headed down to Albert park to watch a
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:52:29 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:16:24?AM UTC+13, Crash wrote:The only people that should feel smeared are thos that have been
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >>wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>> >>>wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and
makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist,
misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO. >>> >>>See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast >>> >>majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why - >>> >>anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that >>> >>without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
violent against a woman - I did not feel smeared; I am sorry you see >yourself in that group.
And she has.It was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that >>> >white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most >>> >violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She >>> cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
That has been one example given to explain her views - what practical >effect do you think such a view suggests happen?
She also seems to be lying about the supposed hit by the motorcycle. As it >>happened some time before she made her racist speech. An interesting thing >>about that is how she comes across if you turn off the sound and watch the body
language of her and her supporters. They were hyped. The thought that came to
mind they were looking foreword to seeing someone they didn't like getting >>dealt to!
As I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of >>> biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they >>> >are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to >>> >have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy >>> >Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and
discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
required (eg toilets)
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
again what effect do you expect that would have, and do you believe
such a requirement would be justified?
I have not seen any evidence that anyone from the Trans community asIt was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one >>> would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
you put it was present, but there were certainly a lot of other >organisations there: >https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
Quite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males
--
Crash McBash
cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from >>testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that >>should never be changed!
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currentlyYou are still trying to change the subject Shame on you.
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
Posie Parker was assaulted and a Minisetr seems to have enjoyed that! No assistance from the police until after the fact.
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:52:29 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesher supporters. They were hyped. The thought that came to mind they were looking foreword to seeing someone they didn't like getting dealt to!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:16:24?AM UTC+13, Crash wrote:The only people that should feel smeared are thos that have been
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:38:45 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:58:25 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:38:20 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:04:24 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Marama "Cunt" Davidson (look it up) attends an "anti-hate" rally, and makes a false statement that white cis males are the cause of all violence.
Only someone as practiced in hypocrisy could show such racist, misandrist hate at an anti-hate rally.
What would Rod Donald and Jeanette Fitzsimons make of the 2023 Greens?
You appear tp be disa[[earing down yet another rabbit hole, JohnO.
See:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
So you have nothing to say about Marama Davidson's smear of the vast
majority of NZ males? There is no mistaking what she said and why -
anti-European-male racism laid bare and you cannot acknowledge that
without trying to change the subject of the thread (again).
violent against a woman - I did not feel smeared; I am sorry you see yourself in that group.
And she has.It was racism. Whenever I have seen racism against non-whites,
Thank you for correcting JohnOs assertion that anyone had claimed that >> >white cis males are the cause of all violence - that is clearly
untrue, and while technically Davidson was correct in saying that most >> >violence against women is from white males, there was no need to
single out white men - there are more of them than other males, but
white and non-white males are certainly the vast majority of those
causing violence against women. In context, I do not believe it was
racism - she had just been hit by a motor cycle rider who may well
have been a white male.
context has never been a defence and is not now. Davidson is an
experienced politician well aware of the circumstances and most
certainly aware of the cameras and microphones that were present. She
cannot claim to be 'in shock' - if she was she would have enough
experience to respond with 'I have just been hit on a pedestrian
crossing and have no comment'.
She deliberately said what was said and should suffer the
consequences.
She also seems to be lying about the supposed hit by the motorcycle. As it happened some time before she made her racist speech. An interesting thing about that is how she comes across if you turn off the sound and watch the body language of her and
Here Rich a link with proof of the racist anti female beliefs of the Green party!That has been one example given to explain her views - what practicalAs I understand it, Posie Parker simply advocates for the exclusion of
I do not personally know any 'trans' person - I understand that they
are quite a small number of people - but they are people, and are
entitled to the same consideration as any other person. I do not
understand why the Parker woman wanted to remove rights from that
small group, or even what she was arguing be done, but recognising
that all in our country are entitled to normal human rights appears to >> >have excited some on the far right, including JohnO. Quite what she
wanted to happen is not clear, nor is is clear why the views of Posy
Parker / KJKM should be considered by any New Zealander. Hatred and
discrimination of others for their differences is not the way New
Zealanders wish to be seen.
biological males from women's communal facilities where privacy is
required (eg toilets)
effect do you think such a view suggests happen?
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
again what effect do you expect that would have, and do you believe
such a requirement would be justified?
I have not seen any evidence that anyone from the Trans community asIt was the counter-protest that caused the
problems - if the Trans community simply ignored Posie Parker then
they would achieve more than they ever achieved last weekend - no-one
would have noticed her. It is the conflict, not the message, that
makes the news.
you put it was present, but there were certainly a lot of other organisations there: https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/28-03-2023/how-nz-fringe-groups-latched-on-to-the-posie-parker-controversy
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currentlyQuite correct Crash. Athletics organisations have declared that trans males cannot compete against real women because of their natural advantage from testosterone. No matter what crap Rich spews from his river of filth that should never be changed!
--
Crash McBash
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
They're males no mater how they might identify. They belong in male toilets, male changing rooms and getting beaten by males in sport! Only a stupid feral lefty like you Rich would find anything wrong with that!I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to >everyone else.
Bill.
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to >everyone else.Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be happening?
Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women who didn'Bill.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women who
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowesdidn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women who
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >> >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >> >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >> >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >> >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >> >>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >> >>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >> >>from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody >> >can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to >> >everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of filth
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women who
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >> >> >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >> >> >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >> >> >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >> >> >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >> >> >>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >> >> >>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >> >> >>from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody >> >> >can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to >> >> >everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of filth
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Boweswho didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of filth
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestriansurl please Rich. You and the lying feral rat your supporting need to get facts right! The only claims for the motorcyclist being one of Tamaki's lot comes from a serial liar Rich...
on a crossing?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Boweswho didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of filth
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >> >> happening?
Bill.
filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?The only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of
We're pushing our luck on both counts mate. Rich is such an arrogant and feral shit house rat he always assumes it's always right even though we all know he's far left!I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Boweswho didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of filth
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
He won't - Rich has no cojones, no integrity and no way to demonstrate that he was not the feral who beat up an OAP.On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves >> >> >> >>>>asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I >> >> >> >>>>do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human
rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There >> >> >> >>>are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric
illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude
them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man.
Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does >> >> >> >to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of themThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:43:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken, it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a group of mainly women
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote: >> >> >> >>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >> >> >> happening?
Bill.
filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >> >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?The only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into your river of
I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.It did show feral stupidity, but not clear who was beating up who, I
could not identify any man wearing a dress.
Try again.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
He won't - Rich has no cojones, no integrity and no way to demonstrate that he >was not the feral who beat up an OAP.On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house >>> >rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >>> >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of >>> >> >your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves
as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>> >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I >>> >> >> >>>>do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human >>> >> >> >>>>rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There >>> >> >> >>>are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric
illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude >>> >> >> >>them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >>> >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >>> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man.
Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does >>> >> >> >to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >>> >> >> happening?
Bill.
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company! >>> I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:10:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo Rich. It's most likely it was a NZGreen cross dresser :)
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Were you the man in a dress riding a motorbike Tony?
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
He won't - Rich has no cojones, no integrity and no way to demonstrate that heOn Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>> >> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote: >>> >> >>None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them
Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of >>> >> >your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such >>> >> >> instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote: >>> >> >> >>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves
as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I
do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human >>> >> >> >>>>rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There
are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric >>> >> >> >>>illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude >>> >> >> >>them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >>> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. >>> >> >> >Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does
to
everyone else.
happening?
Bill.
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company! >>> I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
was not the feral who beat up an OAP.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians >>> on a crossing?
John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:25:09 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house >> >rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >> >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of >> >> >your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote: >> >> >> >>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves
as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I
do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human >> >> >> >>>>rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There
are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric
illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude >> >> >> >>them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man.
Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does
to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >> >> >> happening?
Bill.
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company! >> I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
Something for you to mull over Rich. as always I don't expect any >comprehension or sense from a feral lefty rat like you. But give it a try.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131635113/police-investigating-posie-parker-juice-thrower-no-arrest-warrant-yetOK so she cannot be located and she claims she has had death threats and she previously said whe was happy to go to prison for what happened - but guess what, she has not contacted police. Who would have thought?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:43:29 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>But did you see somebody you are not acquainted with committing a possible assault?
wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house >>> >rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >>> >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of >>> >> >your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105
<Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent
themselves as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate >>> >> >> >>>>-
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>> >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I >>> >> >> >>>>do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human >>> >> >> >>>>rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There >>> >> >> >>>are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric
illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude >>> >> >> >>them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >>> >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >>> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man.
Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does >>> >> >> >to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >>> >> >> happening?
Bill.
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company! >>> I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
It did show feral stupidity, but not clear who was beating up who, I
could not identify any man wearing a dress.
Try again.
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
OK so she cannot be located and she claims she has had death threats and she previously said whe was happy to go to prison for what happened - but guess what, she has not contacted police. Who would have thought?On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves >> >> >> >>>>asAnd they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >> >> >> >>>biology does not lie.
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >> >> >> >>>
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I >> >> >> >>>>do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human
rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There >> >> >> >>>are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric
illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude
them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses should >> >> >> >be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the
frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man.
Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does >> >> >> >to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be
happening?
Bill.
your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was broken,
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their rights!
were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the censored
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company!
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians
on a crossing?
Something for you to mull over Rich. as always I don't expect any >comprehension or sense from a feral lefty rat like you. But give it a try.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131635113/police-investigating-posie-parker-juice-thrower-no-arrest-warrant-yet
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:10:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, were you the feral beating up an elderly woman? Why do you condone such behaviour?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 15:25:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
He won't - Rich has no cojones, no integrity and no way to demonstrate that >>heOn Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:52:21?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT), John BowesThe only problem I can see is the feral stupidity coming from shit house >>>> >rats like you Rich! Go have look on Twitter instead of relying on the >>>> >censored
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:51:51?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>> >> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:23:52 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:None of them were in a toilet, and it does not appear that any of them >>>> >> were men in dresses. So what is your problem?
Rich. you are not aware of anything that goes against the beliefs of >>>> >> >your feral Labour/Green lefty bigotry! Correct in asking if a law was >>>> >> >broken,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:44:09 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>> >> >> >wrote:Has the law been broken in that way? I am not aware of any such
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote: >>>> >> >> >>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105
<Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent
themselves
as
being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate >>>> >> >> >>>>-
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman.
Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are
currently
being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. >>>> >> >> >>>>I
do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human >>>> >> >> >>>>rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There >>>> >> >> >>>are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric >>>> >> >> >>>illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude >>>> >> >> >>them
from Mens and Womens public toilets?
Nothing should happen with them, and of course men in dresses
should
be excluded from womens toilets. It doesn't matter how frilly the >>>> >> >> >frock or whatever the degree of butchery, a man is still a man. >>>> >> >> >Nobody
can change that.
Do you regard them as a danger to
others?
I refer you to the events over last weekend.
Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
How are they demonised? The law applies to them the same as it does >>>> >> >> >to
everyone else.
instances. Why get upset about something that does not appear to be >>>> >> >> happening?
Bill.
it wasn't it was shattered last weekend by a bunch of feral rats
attacking a
group of mainly women who didn't agree with their warped view of their >>>> >> >rights!
media! You'll see several men in dresses beating up old ladys! No get >>>> >back into
your river of filth with Marama Davidson and Chris Hipkins and company! >>>> I reckon you are lying, or you would have given a url.
https://twitter.com/PiersonOlivia/status/1639944686071844865?s=20
You may apologise to John Bowes now, then hopefully fuck off forever.
was not the feral who beat up an OAP.
Were you the man in a dress riding a motorbike Tony?
Are you referring to the Tamaki bike gang not stopping for pedestrians >>>> on a crossing?
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular
biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do
not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights
of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes.
It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them
from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would thatOn Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
and https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn’t defend his thugs who nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they’d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me it’s about women’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you’ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else’s genitals, by their identity, by their lives which probably aren’t even going to intersect with your lives, certainly not in any way you’d even really know about
or need to know about.
It’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
and >https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn’t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they’d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell meYou are disgusting. All of that is deliberate misinformation. The Greens need to lose all their left wing members and go back to when they were actually worried about the Earth and were not a front for communism.
it’s about women’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you’ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else’s genitals, by their >identity, by their lives which probably aren’t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way you’d even really know about
or need to know about.
It’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I am very afraid that Rich and his like want exactly that. Certainly some of the Greens do.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you >will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg
model.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"IÂ’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
IÂ’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldnÂ’t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester theyÂ’d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
itÂ’s about womenÂ’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - youÂ’ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some elseÂ’s genitals, by their
identity, by their lives which probably arenÂ’t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way youÂ’d even really know about
or need to know about.
ItÂ’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the
government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content,
it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to >them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war. >History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you
servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >this.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>You are disgusting. All of that is deliberate misinformation. The Greens need to lose all their left wing members and go back to when they were actually worried about the Earth and were not a front for communism.
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
and >>https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"IÂ’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
IÂ’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldnÂ’t defend his thugs who >>nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester theyÂ’d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>itÂ’s about womenÂ’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - youÂ’ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some elseÂ’s genitals, by their >>identity, by their lives which probably arenÂ’t even going to intersect >>with your lives, certainly not in any way youÂ’d even really know about
or need to know about.
ItÂ’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Posie Parker is about women, she is not against trans people.
People like you and Marama Davidosn are treading close to a line that is simply
evil.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
and >https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As >I’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn’t defend his thugs who >nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they’d pushed >to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >Queen Street. "
You mean they're getting better? Please Tony :) They're so far over that line they couldn't see it using Americas Global Hawk!!!"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >it’s about women’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you’ve got to >ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else’s genitals, by their >identity, by their lives which probably aren’t even going to intersect >with your lives, certainly not in any way you’d even really know about >or need to know about.
It’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the >weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >government for defending free speech for both those that support andYou are disgusting. All of that is deliberate misinformation. The Greens need
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
to lose all their left wing members and go back to when they were actually worried about the Earth and were not a front for communism.
Posie Parker is about women, she is not against trans people.
People like you and Marama Davidosn are treading close to a line that is simply
evil.
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:I'm pretty sure Rich the Greens and Labour have lost the war. Just aren't smart enough to realise it...
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you
will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >model.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn’t defend his thugs who >> nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they’d pushed >> to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
it’s about women’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >> the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you’ve got to >> ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else’s genitals, by their >> identity, by their lives which probably aren’t even going to intersect >> with your lives, certainly not in any way you’d even really know about >> or need to know about.
It’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the
government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content,
it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to
them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war.
History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >this.I am very afraid that Rich and his like want exactly that. Certainly some of the Greens do.
On 2023-03-30, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:When the Green party and the Maori party I had high hopes. Both were headed by intelligent people. regrettably over the years the feral rabble have taken them over till now they're just biased ferals pushing no ideas that a reasonable person can accept!
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That point has been on my mind in the last couple of days. The old faithful and clear thinking Greens were an advocate for the environment. Drew our attention to how we could improve matters and put forward sensible solutions. They advocated for a better balanced world for the environment. They stuck to this and kept out of the rest of Government issues.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>You are disgusting. All of that is deliberate misinformation. The Greens need
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <bl...@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell >>her they didn't want her here."
and >>https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As >>I’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn’t defend his thugs who >>nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they’d pushed >>to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>it’s about women’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >>the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have >>now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you’ve got to >>ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else’s genitals, by their >>identity, by their lives which probably aren’t even going to intersect >>with your lives, certainly not in any way you’d even really know about >>or need to know about.
It’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the >>weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >>them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>government for defending free speech for both those that support and >>those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
to lose all their left wing members and go back to when they were actually worried about the Earth and were not a front for communism.
The plan was to have enough seats so that a coalition party would enact some of their policies. If not they were still a party in the House.
I miss those days. It is so frustrating to see what they became.
[ For the record, I was never a Green Party faithful, but I did see that they were doing a task that needed doing]
Posie Parker is about women, she is not against trans people.
People like you and Marama Davidosn are treading close to a line that is simply
evil.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
and https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"IÂ’m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
IÂ’m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldnÂ’t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester theyÂ’d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
itÂ’s about womenÂ’s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - youÂ’ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some elseÂ’s genitals, by their identity, by their lives which probably arenÂ’t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way youÂ’d even really know about
or need to know about.
ItÂ’s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you >>will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>model.
than about them.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their
identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about
or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the
government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content,
it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to >>them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war. >>History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>this.
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you >will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg
model.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their
identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about
or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the
government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content,
it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to >them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war. >History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you
servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >this.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:32:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:19:05 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you >>>than about them.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell >>>>> her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you
will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>>>model.
Gordon did not mention Tamaki. Yet again you make a factually
incorrect assertion purely because it suits your point of view.
Apart from the tomato sauce, the consensus appears to be that most
violence was by supporters of Keen-Minsgulls position - Gordon did not >mention who he was referring to; I was merely relating his comment to
the Auckland incident which most of this thread has been referring to.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed >>>>> to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>>>> Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>>>> it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >>>>> the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have >>>>> now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to >>>>> ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their >>>>> identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect >>>>> with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about >>>>> or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >>>>> them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>>>> government for defending free speech for both those that support and >>>>> those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content, >>>>it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>>>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to
them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>>>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>>>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>>>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war.
History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>>>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>>>this.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:19:05 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell >>>> her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you >>>will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>>model.
than about them.
Gordon did not mention Tamaki. Yet again you make a factually
incorrect assertion purely because it suits your point of view.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed >>>> to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>>> Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>>> it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their
identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect >>>> with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about >>>> or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >>>> them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>>> government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content, >>>it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to >>>them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war. >>>History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>>this.
Apart from the tomato sauce, the consensus appears to be that most
violence was by supporters of Keen-Minsgulls position
On Thursday, 30 March 2023 at 20:33:43 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Looks more and more like Rich is another of these mentally deranged, hating and feral men in dresses. He's obviously avoiding looking at the reality of the feral attack by his ilk on Saturday like the NZ msm. Rich needs to go look at overseas media to
Apart from the tomato sauce, the consensus appears to be that most violence was by supporters of Keen-Minsgulls positionThe lies come so easily to you and your ilk, don't they, Dickbot?
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Gordon was not referring to Tamaki, obviously. But you turn his words into an attack on him by yourself - you are a very nasty person.
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell
her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you >>will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>model.
than about them.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed
to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of
Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me
it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in
the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have
now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to
ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their
identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect
with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about
or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to
them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the
government for defending free speech for both those that support and
those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content,
it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to >>them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war. >>History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>this.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:32:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>There is no such consensus - provide a cite of go away.
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:19:05 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you >>>than about them.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell >>>>> her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, you
will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>>>model.
Gordon did not mention Tamaki. Yet again you make a factually
incorrect assertion purely because it suits your point of view.
Apart from the tomato sauce, the consensus appears to be that most
violence was by supporters of Keen-Minsgulls position
- Gordon did notRubbish - it was your usual nasty use of sarcasm - a deliberate and unfair attack on a poster.
mention who he was referring to; I was merely relating his comment to
the Auckland incident which most of this thread has been referring to.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As
I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who
nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed >>>>> to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>>>> Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>>>> it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >>>>> the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have >>>>> now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to >>>>> ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their >>>>> identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect >>>>> with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about >>>>> or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone
for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >>>>> them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>>>> government for defending free speech for both those that support and >>>>> those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content, >>>>it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>>>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest to
them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>>>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>>>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>>>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the war.
History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>>>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>>>this.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What? No cite? Well I never. What a surprise. (Hint - that was sarcasm).
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:32:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:There is no such consensus - provide a cite of go away.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:19:05 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On 30 Mar 2023 03:49:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-29, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That you think of Tamaki and his mob in those terms say more about you >>>>than about them.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they >>>>>>>last before they have a date with a construction crane.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>>>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate - >>>>>>>>>And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>>>>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>>>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>>>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>>>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are >>>>>>>>>a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>>>>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or >>>>>>>>>encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>>>>>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>>>>>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to >>>>>>>>demonise them?
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that >>>>>> make a difference?
For other views, see:
From Kapi-Mana News: "Editor's note: Keen-Minshull, also known as
Posie Parker, did not speak in Auckland and left the coutry ater
finding free speech meant Kiwis had the right to confront her and tell >>>>>> her they didn't want her here."
But not with violence. This is one charateristic of the Liberal Fascism, >>>>>you
will comply or we will kill you. It is nothing more than a failed Borg >>>>>model.
Gordon did not mention Tamaki. Yet again you make a factually
incorrect assertion purely because it suits your point of view.
Apart from the tomato sauce, the consensus appears to be that most
violence was by supporters of Keen-Minsgulls position
- Gordon did not
mention who he was referring to; I was merely relating his comment to
the Auckland incident which most of this thread has been referring to. >Rubbish - it was your usual nasty use of sarcasm - a deliberate and unfair >attack on a poster.
and
https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/tova-i-was-at-the-counterprotest-as-a-woman-who-is-pro-all-women-including-trans-women.html
and from that article:
"I?m not here to defend the methods of everyone at that protest. As >>>>>> I?m sure - I hope - that Brian Tamaki wouldn?t defend his thugs who >>>>>> nearly punched me when I tried to help a young protester they?d pushed >>>>>> to the ground and looked primed to kick in the head on the concrete of >>>>>> Queen Street. "
"And to all those people who are rushing to their keyboards to tell me >>>>>> it?s about women?s rights - the same people who have criticised me in >>>>>> the past for being too pro-women, too much of a feminist but who have >>>>>> now suddenly become staunch defenders of women rights - you?ve got to >>>>>> ask yourself why are you so fixated by some else?s genitals, by their >>>>>> identity, by their lives which probably aren?t even going to intersect >>>>>> with your lives, certainly not in any way you?d even really know about >>>>>> or need to know about.
It?s about respect and rights for everyone and we showed over the
weekend that more people care about that in Aotearoa than hate."
The Free Speech Union are having a bob each way by blaming everyone >>>>>> for the threats, intimidation and violence - but I suspect
Keen-Minshull regrets the Tamaki Bikie gang 'assisting' her by
attacking those that disagreed with her . . .
Naturally, both National and ACT see "free speech" as only applying to >>>>>> them - their criticism of the Police is a thinly veilled attack on the >>>>>> government for defending free speech for both those that support and >>>>>> those that object to the views of Keen-Minshull.
Well, free speech, in its delivery, has nothing to do with the content, >>>>>it has everything about it being the foundation of democracy.
The Police stood by which violence was in progress in front of them. The >>>>>Police are there to keep the peace, to get between the crowds and suggest >>>>>to
them to "back off" and dispurse.
Remember this, all the Labour Party's wise and wonder words are in fact a >>>>>product of free speech. As as the wise and wonder words from the other >>>>>parties, and Priests etc.
Think of it this way Rich, if the Liberal Fassicm (woke) policy "refines" >>>>>free speech there is a very strong chance that your side might lose the >>>>>war.
History shows that you are unlikey to be treated kindly, even if you >>>>>servive the war.
Bit extreme, but possible. It is my hope that the world does not come to >>>>>this.
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:58:38 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:35:25 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:Send them to Iran to practice their lifestyle and see how long they
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:30:16 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
I suspect she also did not want any person to represent themselves as >>>>>being of a different gender than that on their birth certificate -
And they shouldn't. Everyone is either a man or a woman. Molecular >>>>biology does not lie.
That is a matter for sports bodies, and there policies are currently >>>>>being changed and clarified - differently for different sports. I do >>>>>not see that as particularly relevant to recognising the human rights >>>>>of a relatively small group of individuals.
There is no such thing as a "trans-woman" or a "trans-man". There are
a small number of people with gender dysphoria, a psychiatric illnes. >>>>It is not a condition that sould be celebrated, indulged or
encouraged.
Bill.
So what should happen with those people, Bill? Would you exclude them >>>from Mens and Womens public toilets? Do you regard them as a danger to >>>others? Just because there are only a few, is it acceptable to
demonise them?
last before they have a date with a construction crane.
Are any of them from Iran, Mutley? Even if any were, why would that
make a difference?
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