Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
Oh and before a lying little twerp starts claiming I'm a climate change denier, he needs to provide some proof else his claim will just be yet another lie in a long history of his lying :)
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proofWhat por journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all). That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Oh and before a lying little twerp starts claiming I'm a climate change denier, he needs to provide some proof else his claim will just be yet another lie in a long history of his lying :)
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide >of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >rather silly.
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was
intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Sorry Gordon I meant to reply to Rich. I accidentally did what he so often does (because he is lazy) and addresses the wrong poster.
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:You believe he is stupid but provide no proof.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our >>>>weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What por journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide >>of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
Questioning anything is not silly, especially something like climate change >for
which there is no scientific consensus except in the minds of those whose >minds
are closed.
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>rather silly.
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this >>>>ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!! >>> Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
Your response Rich, so do that.
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What por journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide >of the subject matter.
You believe he is stupid but provide no proof.That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >rather silly.
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was
intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this >>>ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What por journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of that common lie.
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide >>of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by
climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate
change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this >>>>ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!! >>> Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
Your response Rich, so do that.
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >rather silly.That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by
climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate
change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Since I have never posted such an assertion that is a particularly
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is >mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of that
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would >>>> like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do >>>> not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide >>>of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >>veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by >>climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
common lie.
Apparently not - get help, Tony.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate
change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this >>>>>ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!! >>>> Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes - >>>> you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 01:18:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Since I have never posted such an assertion that is a particularly
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would >>>> like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that >>>> goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making >>>> a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do >>>> not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >>veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by >>climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of that
common lie.
silly presumption on your part. What is clear is that human activity
has become a contributor to climate change in general, but it is not possible to determine whether human actions have has a siginificant
effect in any particular weather event. It is also clear that,
regardless of your view on causes of global warming and increasing significant damage from weather events, it is worth our country
seeking to achive the reductions in emmissions and other targets
agreed in international agreements - better to spend the money in New Zealand fixing our contributions than to see that money be paid as teh result of not meeting targets.
Apparently not - get help, Tony.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate >>change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid >>>> statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a >>>> particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what >>>> it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to >>>> find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes - >>>> you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this
ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
Your response Rich, so do that.
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 01:18:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyI suggest you read the paragraph I answered in your last post in this thread and see if you can make sense of it. It was a confused rant that seemed to indicate exactly what I wrote.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Since I have never posted such an assertion that is a particularly
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is >>mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of >>that
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our >>>>>>weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would >>>>> like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that >>>>> goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making >>>>> a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do >>>>> not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>>>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >>>veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by >>>climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
common lie.
silly presumption on your part.
What is clear is that human activity
has become a contributor to climate change in general, but it is not
possible to determine whether human actions have has a siginificant
effect in any particular weather event. It is also clear that,
regardless of your view on causes of global warming and increasing >significant damage from weather events
it is worth our countryNot in any way sensible. The wellbeing of New Zealanders is more important than an idiotic agreement that no longer makes sense.
seeking to achive the reductions in emmissions and other targets
agreed in international agreements - better to spend the money in New
Zealand fixing our contributions than to see that money be paid as teh
result of not meeting targets.
Apparently not - get help, Tony.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate >>>change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid >>>>> statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a >>>>> particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what >>>>> it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to >>>>> find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>>>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in >>>>>>this
ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!! >>>>> Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes - >>>>> you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 01:18:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyI don't need it - but you clearly do. You are confused by management versus governance and now clearly about climate versus weather - science degree? Yeah right.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Since I have never posted such an assertion that is a particularly
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is >>mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of >>that
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle >>>>>>worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with >>>>>>scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our >>>>>>weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would >>>>> like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that >>>>> goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making >>>>> a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do >>>>> not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>>>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >>>veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by >>>climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
common lie.
silly presumption on your part. What is clear is that human activity
has become a contributor to climate change in general, but it is not
possible to determine whether human actions have has a siginificant
effect in any particular weather event. It is also clear that,
regardless of your view on causes of global warming and increasing >significant damage from weather events, it is worth our country
seeking to achive the reductions in emmissions and other targets
agreed in international agreements - better to spend the money in New
Zealand fixing our contributions than to see that money be paid as teh
result of not meeting targets.
Apparently not - get help, Tony.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate >>>change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid >>>>> statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a >>>>> particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what >>>>> it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to >>>>> find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>>>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in >>>>>>this
ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!! >>>>> Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes - >>>>> you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proofWhat por journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all). That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Oh and before a lying little twerp starts claiming I'm a climate change denier, he needs to provide some proof else his claim will just be yet another lie in a long history of his lying :)
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that
goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making
a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do
not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them
all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >rather silly.That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but
equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by
climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate
change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial
that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid
statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a
particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what
it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change
made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to
find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as
likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established
link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased
the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes -
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in this ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . .
Your response Rich, so do that.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:As I've claimed before Tony. Rich has a degree in the science of stupid. His every post in this ng proves it...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 01:18:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Since I have never posted such an assertion that is a particularly
On 12 Mar 2023 00:26:08 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:So presumably you will never again post any suggestion that climate change is
On 2023-03-11, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 12:03:31 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hat's off to the Kaipara mayor! He denies climate change made Gabrielle
worse. Even NIWA aren't claiming this. They're investigating along with
scientists around the world what effect the Tongs volcano had on our >>>>>>weather!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131424144/mayor-doubts-climate-change-intensified-cyclone-gabrielle-asks-for-proof
What poor journalism. It says Kaipara mayor Craig Jepson said he would >>>>> like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by
climate change. It gives a link from "like to see the science" that >>>>> goes to a stroy about Mureen Pugh getting rebuked by Luxon for making >>>>> a similar statement. quite a few of the other links from that story do >>>>> not support the statements in the article (I have not checked them >>>>> all).
The is totally normal for Stuff, many of the mid section links are very wide
of the subject matter.
That does not mean he did not make the stupid statement
attributed to him - he has a history of stupidity, and he has
questioned the scientific consensus on climate change
It is not stupid to question the main narrative. Doing so makes you look >>>>rather silly.
That the links did not support the statement does give doubt as to the >>>veracity of any of the statements, but saying that he would
like to see the science that shows the cyclone was made worse by >>>climate change is asking for something that does not exist - but >>>equally there is no proof that cyclone Gabrielle was not affected by >>>climate change, or that climate change is not affected by mankind.
mainly caused by mankind since you seem to agree that there is no proof of >>that
common lie.
silly presumption on your part. What is clear is that human activity
has become a contributor to climate change in general, but it is not >possible to determine whether human actions have has a siginificant
effect in any particular weather event. It is also clear that,
regardless of your view on causes of global warming and increasing >significant damage from weather events, it is worth our country
seeking to achive the reductions in emmissions and other targets
agreed in international agreements - better to spend the money in New >Zealand fixing our contributions than to see that money be paid as teh >result of not meeting targets.
I don't need it - but you clearly do. You are confused by management versus governance and now clearly about climate versus weather - science degree? YeahApparently not - get help, Tony.
It was a question that does not currently have an answer; in itself
it does not indicate that he denies the influenc eof man on climate >>>change - it is merely irrelevant.
Does that make it clearer?
right.
according to
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Jepson and a demial >>>>> that climate change made Gabrielle worse would be a similarly stupid >>>>> statement - I do not believe that it is yet possible to prove that a >>>>> particular weather even was caused by climate change, or indeed what >>>>> it was not.
John Bowes has said that NIWA are not claiming that climate change >>>>> made Gabrielle worse - I suspect that John Bowes has not been able to >>>>> find any reference to that statement though - and they are just as >>>>> likely to have not claimed that Climate change did not affect
Gabrielle.
" Jepson said he would also like to know how much the cyclone was >>>>intensified by last year’s Tongan eruption."
"Crown research institute Niwa has said there was no established >>>>link between the events, but it is believed the eruption increased >>>>the Earth’s temperature."
The cite is in the orginal posting.
Your response Rich, so do that.Well now you have the opportunity to justify your claims, John Bowes - >>>>> you have claimed what appears to be poor reporting and a myth . . . >>>>
It'd be nice and a miracle if a certain climate change myth pusher in >>>>>>this
ng and Jimmy Shaw actually provided some proof to back up their claims!!!
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