Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will >do. Maybe that is the same thing.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are >significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will >>do. Maybe that is the same thing.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >spectrum.
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass that nobody can trust.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >>slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are >>significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will >>>do. Maybe that is the same thing.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no
supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass that nobody can trust.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >>>slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>>spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >spectrum.
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass >> that nobody can trust.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >>>>slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>>>spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that >the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >taken hold.
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:28:01?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:reality! :)
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour >> >slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >> >spectrum.
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no
supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
Rich as usual YOU show how out of touch with reality you are! You can't bear the thought that Labour and National are close politically. The idea is guaranteed for your widdle tits to tangle and that only proves just how out of touch you are with
On 6 Mar 2023 03:02:56 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense - Uh where is your supporting evidence? You know the stuff you demand from everybody else but that you do not have to provide? Eh?
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass >>> that nobody can trust.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and >>>>>Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat >>>>>>will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both >>>>>are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>>>>spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that >>the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >>there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >>fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >>degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >>taken hold.
Absolutely, Gordon - the Democratic party is about as far to the right
as the NZ National Party, which has moved slightly to the right from
the time of Key as PM.
SeeThe political compassis a thinly disguised left supporting rag.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
(which is based on the leaders only, but in the US the party leaders
are more indiciative of policy than in New Zealand)
and for comparison, New Zealand:Still a rag
https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020
Teh reasons for that conservative bias in the USA are usuallyNonsense - where is your supporting evidence? You know - that stuff you demand from everyvbody else but that you rarely provide?
explained as ersulting from their relatively undemocratic system which
for the senate gives small (and usually conservative) states as many
Senators as the largest (usually more centrist) States. Gerrymandering
for the House is also more common in the USA than other countries.
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:25:18 -0800 (PST), John BowesAh so you have been telling us/John/anybody who will listen.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:28:01?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically andhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat >>> >>will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
Labour
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both >>> >are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>> >spectrum.
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no
supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
Rich as usual YOU show how out of touch with reality you are! You can't bear >>the thought that Labour and National are close politically. The idea is >>guaranteed for your widdle tits to tangle and that only proves just how out of
touch you are with reality! :)
I have been telling you for quite a long time that around 70% of
legislation in New ZSealand is passed with teh support of the
Opposition - yes there is a core of common thinking, or perhaps
preparedness to compromise on less important issues, but on som emajor
issues the two main parties are poles apart.
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:25:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowesreality! :)
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:28:01?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are,
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our
spectrum.
Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no
supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
Rich as usual YOU show how out of touch with reality you are! You can't bear the thought that Labour and National are close politically. The idea is guaranteed for your widdle tits to tangle and that only proves just how out of touch you are with
I have been telling you for quite a long time that around 70% ofRubbish! But exactly what we expect from useless left wing pricks like you Rich! btw where the hell is New SZealand? Or are you confused by Dutch words along with with English ones?
legislation in New ZSealand is passed with teh support of the
Opposition - yes there is a core of common thinking, or perhaps
preparedness to compromise on less important issues, but on som emajor issues the two main parties are poles apart.
On 6 Mar 2023 03:02:56 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:What a load of utter crap Rich! Confirmed by you dragging out the political compass that stinks like a week old fish or one of your posts. Hard to say which is higher...
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example. >>>>Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our
spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
that nobody can trust.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that >the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >taken hold.Absolutely, Gordon - the Democratic party is about as far to the right
as the NZ National Party, which has moved slightly to the right from
the time of Key as PM.
See
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
(which is based on the leaders only, but in the US the party leaders
are more indiciative of policy than in New Zealand)
and for comparison, New Zealand:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020
Teh reasons for that conservative bias in the USA are usually
explained as ersulting from their relatively undemocratic system which
for the senate gives small (and usually conservative) states as many Senators as the largest (usually more centrist) States. Gerrymandering
for the House is also more common in the USA than other countries.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:But because of his supposed science degree Rich thinks he doesn't need to provide cites because being the left wing imbecile he is, anything he says is the unquestionable truth and we should all bend down and kiss the ground he walks on...
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:25:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:28:01?PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>> Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and >>> >Labourhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat
will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both
are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example.
Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our
spectrum.
supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
Rich as usual YOU show how out of touch with reality you are! You can't bear
the thought that Labour and National are close politically. The idea is >>guaranteed for your widdle tits to tangle and that only proves just how out of
touch you are with reality! :)
I have been telling you for quite a long time that around 70% of >legislation in New ZSealand is passed with teh support of theAh so you have been telling us/John/anybody who will listen.
Opposition - yes there is a core of common thinking, or perhaps >preparedness to compromise on less important issues, but on som emajor >issues the two main parties are poles apart.
But with no supporting evidence nearly always - you know, that stuff you demand
of everybody else!
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2023 03:02:56 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense - Uh where is your supporting evidence? You know the stuff you demand >from everybody else but that you do not have to provide? Eh?
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political Compass
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and >>>>>>Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat >>>>>>>will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). Both >>>>>>are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example. >>>>>>Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on our >>>>>>spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
that nobody can trust.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that >>>the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >>>there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >>>fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >>>degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >>>taken hold.
Absolutely, Gordon - the Democratic party is about as far to the right
as the NZ National Party, which has moved slightly to the right from
the time of Key as PM.
SeeThe political compassis a thinly disguised left supporting rag.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
(which is based on the leaders only, but in the US the party leaders
are more indiciative of policy than in New Zealand)
For which you give no explanation - no alalysis, no argument ,Still a rag
and for comparison, New Zealand:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020
Nonsense - where is your supporting evidence? You know - that stuff you demand >from everyvbody else but that you rarely provide?
The reasons for that conservative bias in the USA are usually
explained as ersulting from their relatively undemocratic system which
for the senate gives small (and usually conservative) states as many >>Senators as the largest (usually more centrist) States. Gerrymandering
for the House is also more common in the USA than other countries.
On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 03:39:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI don't care about their bias, I merely see that it exists and therefore discount anything they publish. Simple really.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2023 03:02:56 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense - Uh where is your supporting evidence? You know the stuff you >>demand
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political >>>>>Compass
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and >>>>>>>Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat >>>>>>>>will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). >>>>>>>Both
are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example. >>>>>>>Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on >>>>>>>our
spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>>>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>>>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong.
that nobody can trust.
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that >>>>the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >>>>there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >>>>fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >>>>degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >>>>taken hold.
Absolutely, Gordon - the Democratic party is about as far to the right
as the NZ National Party, which has moved slightly to the right from
the time of Key as PM.
from everybody else but that you do not have to provide? Eh?
SeeThe political compassis a thinly disguised left supporting rag.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
(which is based on the leaders only, but in the US the party leaders
are more indiciative of policy than in New Zealand)
If that is the case, the only significant party of the left in their >assessment is The Green Party - can you explain how the political
compass has favoured them - or even favoured Labour over National?
Because I tell the truth. Why should you be believed when you tell so many lies?For which you give no explanation - no alalysis, no argument ,Still a rag
and for comparison, New Zealand:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020
reasoned or otherwise. Why shouosd you be believed ever, Tony?
from everyvbody else but that you rarely provide?
The reasons for that conservative bias in the USA are usually
explained as ersulting from their relatively undemocratic system which >>>for the senate gives small (and usually conservative) states as many >>>Senators as the largest (usually more centrist) States. Gerrymandering >>>for the House is also more common in the USA than other countries. >>Nonsense - where is your supporting evidence? You know - that stuff you >>demand
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 03:39:15 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Mar 2023 03:02:56 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Nonsense - Uh where is your supporting evidence? You know the stuff you >>demand
On 2023-03-06, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:that nobody can trust.
Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2023-03-05, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:There is truth in that. National are roughly central politically and >>>>>>>Labour
Even Labour party members are abandoning the lost cause :) >>>>>>>>>
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/131407971/former-labour-party-member-becomes-national-candidate
Well that just how close Labour and National are. That or that any seat
will
do. Maybe that is the same thing.
slightly to the left of that (using world wide political spectrums). >>>>>>>Both
are
significantly to the left of both major USA parties for example. >>>>>>>Then there are the minor NZ parties, which are differently located on >>>>>>>our
spectrum.
As a personal opinion, you just show how out of touch yuo really are, >>>>>>Tony. You have made similar claims in the past, with absolutely no >>>>>>supporting material - at least you are consistent in being wrong. >>>>> You are the one that posts stupid biased sources like the Political >>>>>Compass
I have no intention of providing support for the obvious truth.
If you had any integrity you would understand polltics.
Rich, go study some US of A politics. Often I think that it is amazing that
the country works as well as it does.
The US of A has not had a social reform crusade. In many other countries >>>>there as been a social reform. The welfare state, looking after the less >>>>fortunate.
So without a welfare state it is every person for themselves to a large >>>>degree. The political tone is off to the right as the alternative as not >>>>taken hold.
Absolutely, Gordon - the Democratic party is about as far to the right >>>as the NZ National Party, which has moved slightly to the right from >>>the time of Key as PM.
from everybody else but that you do not have to provide? Eh?
SeeThe political compassis a thinly disguised left supporting rag.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
(which is based on the leaders only, but in the US the party leaders >>>are more indiciative of policy than in New Zealand)
If that is the case, the only significant party of the left in their >assessment is The Green Party - can you explain how the politicalI don't care about their bias, I merely see that it exists and therefore discount anything they publish. Simple really.
compass has favoured them - or even favoured Labour over National?
Because I tell the truth. Why should you be believed when you tell so many lies?For which you give no explanation - no alalysis, no argument ,Still a rag
and for comparison, New Zealand: >>>https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2020
reasoned or otherwise. Why shouosd you be believed ever, Tony?
from everyvbody else but that you rarely provide?
The reasons for that conservative bias in the USA are usually >>>explained as ersulting from their relatively undemocratic system which >>>for the senate gives small (and usually conservative) states as many >>>Senators as the largest (usually more centrist) States. Gerrymandering >>>for the House is also more common in the USA than other countries. >>Nonsense - where is your supporting evidence? You know - that stuff you >>demand
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