Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th centuryNo problem with free speech here Rich. However if you breach rules with it I also don't have a problem with people suffering the consequences of their freedom of speech. You on the other hand don't believe in free speech or any form of freedom that isn't
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does notSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
come through the State Services Commission.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does notSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
come through the State Services Commission.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
--
Crash McBash
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:29:18?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:the first water living off the working mans hard work!
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the
support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Oh and don't forget your lovers of freedom are firm believers in compulsory unionism along with the bullshit of national awards! Hardly signs of loving freedom. Probably why totalitarian twits like you love them so much. In fact unions are parasites of
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political activity
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or toundertake any significant political activity1.
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowesactivity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:54:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowesof the first water living off the working mans hard work!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:29:18?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the
support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Oh and don't forget your lovers of freedom are firm believers in compulsory unionism along with the bullshit of national awards! Hardly signs of loving freedom. Probably why totalitarian twits like you love them so much. In fact unions are parasites
no mention of comulsory unionism in the above quote, John. Yes theIt's comPulsory unionism and the FSU has always been a fighter to remove workers rights to not belong to a union as you well know!
union may be slghtly to the left of your position, but what in the
quote above do you actually disagree with?
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowesactivity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 12:25:00?PM UTC+13, Crash wrote:activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >> >>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >> >>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >> >>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >> >>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >> >>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
With luck Hipkins will show some leadership and fire Campbell.It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
--
Crash McBash
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>As he had to or be seen as incompetent.
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain >>>rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political >>>interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively >>>under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or >>>engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that >>>could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the >>>public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make >>>political comment or to undertake any significant political activity1.
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
--
Crash McBash
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterIt acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
--With luck Hipkins will show some leadership and fire Campbell.
Crash McBash
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
So what the hell is he then Rich? Your semantics are pure bullshit!
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the
support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Piss off you devious little commie.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 00:47:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou were off topic - that has zero to do with free speech - you know, free speech, that right we have but this government during the early years threatened to damage. Your integrity and memory appear to be of similar quality.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>>interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>>controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Piss off you devious little commie.
So you don't agree with free speech - why am I not surprised.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:09:01 UTC+13, Crash wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
--
Crash McBash
Campbell has form!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/health-nz-boss-rob-campbell-s-conversation-with-minister-about-political-comments-second-in-a-year-chris-hipkins.html
This turkey needs to get the chop. But is Labour capable of inserting a politically neutral operator into its problem health organisation? Would be hard to find someone competent who is willing to carry on down the flawed path Labour is pointing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 00:47:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe subject isn't about free speech (something you've NEVER supported!) it's about a board member ignoring the rules he's supposed to be working under. He's in breech of his employment contract and should be dismissed!!!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So you don't agree with free speech - why am I not surprised.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the >>principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others, >>trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Piss off you devious little commie.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>We are politically impartial
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the
country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 00:47:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou were off topic - that has zero to do with free speech - you know, free >speech, that right we have but this government during the early years >threatened to damage. Your integrity and memory appear to be of similar quality.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>>his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>>>interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could >>>>be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>>>your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>>support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>>a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second >>>>World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the >>>>principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>>>controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Piss off you devious little commie.
So you don't agree with free speech - why am I not surprised.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the
support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not
surprised . . .
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com>Nobody is bitching about what he said Rich. The complaint is that he didn't follow the requirements of the job!
wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the
support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become
a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not
surprised . . .
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote:
We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>> >>wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or
You've never supported it Rich! You've only supported what the government has told us we must do. typical of supporters of totalitarian government bullshit artists like you Rich!https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93xDid you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the
country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>> >>wrote:He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>> >
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that
suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:53:50 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>I believe that speaking truth to power is always reasonable - there
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:My bet is that if Campbell had targeted any Labour polly you would be
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>> his position here:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom
of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could
be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in
your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>> support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>> a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet
it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not
surprised . . .
as outraged as JohnO.
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>>>>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>wrote:He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>> >
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or
That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all thishttps://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that
suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>> >wrote:Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant" >>>>>>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> >>wrote:He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil >>>>>>> >>servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public >>>>>>> >>political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service >>>>>>> >>leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>> >
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or to
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that
suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>And you failed to make the point.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all this
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by >>>>>>>>certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state: >>>>>>>>We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, CrashSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.And get replaced with a Labor hack.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior >>>>>>>>> >>civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from >>>>>>>>> >>public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil >>>>>>>>> >>service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>>> >
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political >>>>>>>>interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively
under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or
engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity >>>>>>>>that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the
public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make
political comment or to undertake any significant political activity1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 02:12:31 -0000 (UTC), TonyI doubt if your IQ manages to register.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 00:47:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou were off topic - that has zero to do with free speech - you know, free >>speech, that right we have but this government during the early years >>threatened to damage. Your integrity and memory appear to be of similar >>quality.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:Totally off topic, not even close to the subject.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic: >>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate: >>>>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>>>his position here:
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>>>>interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom >>>>>of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could >>>>>be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>>>>your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>>>support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>>>a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet >>>>>it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second >>>>>World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century >>>>>was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining >>>>>servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the >>>>>principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others, >>>>>trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>>>>controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
Piss off you devious little commie.
So you don't agree with free speech - why am I not surprised.
I doubt if you know what free speech means.
One thing it should notSo despite your continued abuse you are still totally off topic.
prevent is people speaking the truth - do you have any evidence that
what he said was in any way wrong? The second issue is whether it is >relevant to his job. Damage to our environment has some relevance to
health, but what about his other job: >https://www.epa.govt.nz/about-us/our-people/board-members/
That is directly relevant. He may well be one of many that are sick of
the misinformation and disinformation being spread about damage to our >environment.
So my view is that he should have made it clear why he was making his >comments, and linking it to protection of our environment for that he
should be gently chided. To have someone Chair the Environmental
Protection Authority that understands and cares about the Environment
is no bad thing - do you agree, Tony?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:12:52 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:53:50 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:I believe that speaking truth to power is always reasonable - there
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>wrote:My bet is that if Campbell had targeted any Labour polly you would be
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>>> his position here:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment
interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom >>>>> of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could >>>>> be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>>>> your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>>> support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>>> a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet >>>>> it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century
was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not >>>surprised . . .
as outraged as JohnO.
are situations relating to diplomacy and external relations where
there is a need to be circumspect, but this is an issue of current
importance to New Zealand, which needs open discussion, particularly
those involved in the protection of our environment. Why would you not
want the truth to be said, Crash?
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>wrote:He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>>> >
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or
That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all thishttps://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:12:52 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:53:50 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I believe that speaking truth to power is always reasonable - thereOn Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>wrote:My bet is that if Campbell had targeted any Labour polly you would be
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>> his position here:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>>> interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom >>>> of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could >>>> be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>>> your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>> support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>> a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet >>>> it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second
World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century >>>> was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others,
trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or
controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not >>surprised . . .
as outraged as JohnO.
are situations relating to diplomacy and external relations where
there is a need to be circumspect, but this is an issue of current importance to New Zealand, which needs open discussion, particularly
those involved in the protection of our environment. Why would you not
want the truth to be said, Crash?
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:33:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:12:52 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >wrote:
I am not sure what comment of mine you were responding to Rich. IOn Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:53:50 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>wrote:I believe that speaking truth to power is always reasonable - there
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:22:36 -0800 (PST), JohnO <john...@gmail.com> >>>wrote:My bet is that if Campbell had targeted any Labour polly you would be
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 10:29:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:Nothing to get worried about here. He surely has a strong advocate for >>>>> his position here:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.fsu.nz/
"As a trade union, we will promote members’ collective employment >>>>> interests with a particular focus on the protection of their freedom >>>>> of speech from employer interference. If you feel that your job could >>>>> be placed in jeopardy because of thoughts or opinions you express in >>>>> your private life, or if you simply want the reassurance of having the >>>>> support of a community dedicated to defending free speech, then become >>>>> a member today.
Free speech is the bedrock on which all our other freedoms rest, yet >>>>> it is currently in greater peril than at any time since the Second >>>>> World War.
One of the wins of the trade union moment in the early 20th century >>>>> was the 8-hour day, and the concept of employees not remaining
servants to their masters once they've clocked off. That is the
principle we need to reestablish – to stop employers, or others, >>>>> trying to get people fired for having so called 'unacceptable' or >>>>> controversial views."
Don;t you believe in free speech?
I believe you are a fucking imbecile.
Campbell is chairman of the health body. He is not an employee - he's a board member and chairman - so your entire rant about unions is completely inapplicable as unions do not represent boards. Fuck you're hopeless.
So you don't accept the arguments about free speech. Why am I not >>>surprised . . .
as outraged as JohnO.
are situations relating to diplomacy and external relations where
there is a need to be circumspect, but this is an issue of current >importance to New Zealand, which needs open discussion, particularly
those involved in the protection of our environment. Why would you not >want the truth to be said, Crash?
have said nothing about truth suppression.
--
But regardless of that, the public service does require political neutrality. If Campbell wants to exercise his right of free speech he has to resign.
Crash McBash
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>>>> >
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in political
to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political comment or
That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all thishttps://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what >>>>capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that >>>>ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On >>>>what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined to
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:39:23 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>political activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in
comment or to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political
quite a few posts ago . . .https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what >>>>capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that >>>>ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On >>>>what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality? >>That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all this
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined toThis just in:
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131355111/te-whatu-ora-chair-rob-campbell-removed-from-board
Read and comprehend Rich80105.
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Crash McBash
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:39:23 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>He will do both and then he will move on to the next lie.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:quite a few posts ago . . .
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by >>>>>>>>>>certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state: >>>>>>>>>>We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, CrashSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil >>>>>>>>>>>servant"
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does >>>>>>>>>>> >notAnd get replaced with a Labor hack.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior >>>>>>>>>>> >>civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from >>>>>>>>>>> >>public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil >>>>>>>>>>> >>service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>>>>> >
come through the State Services Commission.
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our >>>>>>>>>>political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act
effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political
statements or engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the
Crown entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity >>>>>>>>>>that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the
public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make
political comment or to undertake any significant political activity1.
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what >>>>>capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that >>>>>ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On >>>>>what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality? >>>That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all this
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined to
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
This just in:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131355111/te-whatu-ora-chair-rob-campbell-removed-from-board
Read and comprehend Rich80105.
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Crash McBash
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:OK Rich - read, mark, learn and inwardly digest - but you won't.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:And you failed to make the point.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all this
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by >>>>>>>>>certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state: >>>>>>>>>We are politically impartial
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil >>>>>>>>>>servant"He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not >>>>>>>>>> >come through the State Services Commission.And get replaced with a Labor hack.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior >>>>>>>>>> >>civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from >>>>>>>>>> >>public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil >>>>>>>>>> >>service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired. >>>>>>>>>> >
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our >>>>>>>>>political
interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act >>>>>>>>>effectively
under current and future governments. We do not make political >>>>>>>>>statements or
engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the Crown >>>>>>>>>entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity >>>>>>>>>that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could >>>>>>>>>erode the
public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal >>>>>>>>>to make
political comment or to undertake any significant political activity1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link >>>>>>>JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what >>>>capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that >>>>ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On >>>>what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
In his position he must be publicly politically neutral. He was not. End of >story.
It is all about public statements and nothing about in what capacity is >commenting from.
Sheesh, this has been the case for decades.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:39:23 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>political activity in relation to the functions of the Crown entity.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>Sorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil servant"
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:And get replaced with a Labor hack.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does not
come through the State Services Commission.
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political statements or engage in
comment or to undertake any significant political activity1.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any proposal to make political
quite a few posts ago . . .https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you: >>>>>>>>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political >>>>>>>neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that >>>>>suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what >>>>capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that >>>>ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On >>>>what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality? >>That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all this
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined toThis just in:
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131355111/te-whatu-ora-chair-rob-campbell-removed-from-board
Read and comprehend Rich80105.
--
Crash McBash
As he should be.On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:39:23 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>This just in:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide >> >>>>>>>>>by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
<Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, CrashSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley
<mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
And get replaced with a Labor hack.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity. >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior >> >>>>>>>>>> >>civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from >> >>>>>>>>>> >>public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil >> >>>>>>>>>> >>service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being
fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does >> >>>>>>>>>> >not
come through the State Services Commission.
servant"
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act
effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political
statements or engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the
Crown entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political
activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any
proposal to make political comment or to undertake any significant political
activity1.
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you:
That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all thishttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the
link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the
country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that
suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined to
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131355111/te-whatu-ora-chair-rob-campbell-removed-from-board
Read and comprehend Rich80105.
--
Crash McBash
And he's about to be tossed from his Environment Protection job as well.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/rob-campbell-set-to-be-fired-from-environmental-protection-authority-chair-role-newshub-understands.html
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 17:51:45 UTC+13, Crash wrote:
As he should be.On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:39:23 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:37:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>This just in:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:29:45 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:14:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:10:31 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:58:14 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:24:59 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:40:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:10:25 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:43:39?AM UTC+13, Rich80105
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:30:56 +1300, Rich80105No but he is a Crown Entity board member and is supposed to abide >>> >>>>>>>>>by certain rules Rich. He's definitely breached those rules which state:
<Rich...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:09:00 +1300, CrashSorry that should have been "He is however not a senior civil >>> >>>>>>>>>>servant"
<nog...@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:06:18 +1300, Mutley
<mutle...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JohnO <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob Campbell unrepentant and unapologetic:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
PM says Rob Campbell comments inappropriate:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/health-nz-chairman-rob-campbell-under-fire-for-three-waters-linkedin-rant/GKUFE2KPDNC4TBUHVFWIUGYNK4/
Therefore Rob Campbell should resign if he has any integrity.
And get replaced with a Labor hack.
That does not matter. He clearly did not understand that senior
civil
servants, as part of their job, are absolutely prohibited from >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>public
political advocacy. This neutrality is a cornerstone of civil >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>service
leadership. He should be invited to resign prior to being
fired.
He is however now a senior civil servant - his appointment does >>> >>>>>>>>>> >not
come through the State Services Commission.
We are politically impartial
We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to act
effectively under current and future governments. We do not make political
statements or engage in political activity in relation to the functions of the
Crown entity.
When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political
activity that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity. We discuss with the Chair any
proposal to make political comment or to undertake any significant political
activity1.
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest.
Well done, John, you are catching up.
Here is another link to help you:
That is not part of his job requirement - we went through all thishttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/02/te-whatu-ora-health-nz-chair-rob-campbell-unrepentant-after-claims-comments-breached-political-impartiality.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
It acknowledge Campbell is not a senior public servant but as the >>> >>>>>>>link
JohnB posted shows, he is clearly required to observe political
neutrality.
PM Hipkins has taken action:
https://tinyurl.com/4w3ss93x
Did you ever expect Hipkins not to act in the best interests of the >>> >>>>>>country?
Interesting though to see who supoorts free speech . . .
What's free speech got to do with it. Are you implying that
suppression of free speech is a condition of political neutrality?
No, I am saying that he should have been more careful about what
capacity he was acting in when he made the statement, but that
ultimately truth should be a powerful indicator ofacceptability. On
what grounds do you believe he should not have spoken as he did?
On what grounds do you believe anything trumps political neutrality?
quite a few posts ago . . .
That was rebutted:
https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/guidance/code-of-conduct-for-crown-entity-board-members/#:~:text=We%20are%20honest%20and%20open,detrimental%20to%20the%20public%20interest
I quote:
"We act in a politically impartial manner. Irrespective of our
political interests, we conduct ourselves in a way that enables us to
act effectively under current and future governments."
and
"When acting in our private capacity, we avoid any political activity
that could jeopardise our ability to perform our role or which could
erode the public’s trust in the entity."
Perhaps you might care to opine on why PM Hipkins has declined to
express confidence in Campbell.
Keep digging Rich this is very amusing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131355111/te-whatu-ora-chair-rob-campbell-removed-from-board
Read and comprehend Rich80105.
--
Crash McBash
And he's about to be tossed from his Environment Protection job as well.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/rob-campbell-set-to-be-fired-from-environmental-protection-authority-chair-role-newshub-understands.html
He is entitled to his personal opinions but in his position is not entitled to >make them public.
This is nothing to do with freedom of expession or freedom of speech, even if >Rich wants it to be.
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