• Re: Interesting statistic

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Feb 26 11:56:21 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:41:54 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.
    NIWA is part of an international study as to what effect the Tongan volcano has had on our current weather. From an article I posted a link to several weeks ago they seem to think it had quite an effect...

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 19:41:51 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased lately. The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those affected feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate change is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Mon Feb 27 09:21:24 2023
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:41:54?AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.
    NIWA is part of an international study as to what effect the Tongan volcano has had on our current weather. From an article I posted a link to several weeks ago they seem to think it had quite an effect...

    The NZ Media will play that down I'm sure. It goes against their
    agenda.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Feb 26 21:01:50 2023
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:41:54 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased >>lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those >>affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate >>change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.
    NIWA is part of an international study as to what effect the Tongan volcano >has had on our current weather. From an article I posted a link to several >weeks ago they seem to think it had quite an effect...
    There was a massive amount of water released - interesting science.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Feb 26 14:06:12 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:01:52 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:41:54 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased >>lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those >>affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate >>change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.
    NIWA is part of an international study as to what effect the Tongan volcano >has had on our current weather. From an article I posted a link to several >weeks ago they seem to think it had quite an effect...
    There was a massive amount of water released - interesting science.
    A BILLION tonnes!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon Feb 27 12:13:03 2023
    On 26 Feb 2023 22:16:05 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-02-26, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.

    Okay, climate changers, how many of those cyclones, hurricans and typhoons >can you name? Well they blew alot harder than your narrative.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/two-new-tropical-cyclones-could-form-this-week-metservice/I4AOIPBUABCOFIXXV2HMYY6RAU/

    "Historically, late February and early March marked the height of our >November-to-April cyclone season.

    In a given week around this peak period, chances of a cyclone being
    present in the southwest Pacific was typically at least 50 per cent.

    Each season, around nine cyclones formed up in the southwest Pacific,
    of which least one travelled within 550km of our country.

    But this season had come with an elevated risk, with Niwa warning at
    its outset that one to two systems could head our way as had since
    come to pass with Gabrielle and Hale."

    So in the November to April period there is a 50% chance that there will be
    a cyclone in the SW pacific.

    At present two are deciding that they might form.

    *****

    "As they move away from the tropics and over colder waters, tropical
    cyclones weaken and lose much of their characteristic structure.
    In particular, the narrow ring of cumulonimbus clouds known as the >eye-wall, which produces heavy rain and is surrounded by the
    relatively small area of maximum winds, breaks up and weakens.

    For two tropical cyclones to form in the tropics close together in
    space or time is not unusual. However, for two to take such similar
    paths as Fergus and Drena when they leave the tropics is rare, although
    not without precedent.

    In the ten cyclone seasons The Weekly News told the tale of destruction
    in 1936.

    Before this one, the low centres of four decaying tropical cyclones
    passed over New Zealand, while another five, such as Bola in 1988
    came close enough to affect New Zealands weather. In addition, another
    three contributed to record floods in parts of New Zealand because of
    the warm moist tropical air their wind systems brought over the country,
    even though their centres of lowest pressure stayed well away from the
    land."

    Above from https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/the-ghost-of-cyclones-past/

    1936, a tale of destruction. Wow, ancient history eh? Maybe.

    Keep in mind the path comment, two can follow the same path.

    Thanks Gordon. A good response.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Feb 26 22:16:05 2023
    On 2023-02-26, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate change is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.

    Okay, climate changers, how many of those cyclones, hurricans and typhoons
    can you name? Well they blew alot harder than your narrative.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/two-new-tropical-cyclones-could-form-this-week-metservice/I4AOIPBUABCOFIXXV2HMYY6RAU/

    "Historically, late February and early March marked the height of our November-to-April cyclone season.

    In a given week around this peak period, chances of a cyclone being
    present in the southwest Pacific was typically at least 50 per cent.

    Each season, around nine cyclones formed up in the southwest Pacific,
    of which least one travelled within 550km of our country.

    But this season had come with an elevated risk, with Niwa warning at
    its outset that one to two systems could head our way – as had since
    come to pass with Gabrielle and Hale."

    So in the November to April period there is a 50% chance that there will be
    a cyclone in the SW pacific.

    At present two are deciding that they might form.

    *****

    "As they move away from the tropics and over colder waters, tropical
    cyclones weaken and lose much of their characteristic structure.
    In particular, the narrow ring of cumulonimbus clouds known as the “eye-wall,” which produces heavy rain and is surrounded by the
    relatively small area of maximum winds, breaks up and weakens.

    For two tropical cyclones to form in the tropics close together in
    space or time is not unusual. However, for two to take such similar
    paths as Fergus and Drena when they leave the tropics is rare, although
    not without precedent.

    In the ten cyclone seasons The Weekly News told the tale of destruction
    in 1936.

    Before this one, the low centres of four decaying tropical cyclones
    passed over New Zealand, while another five, such as Bola in 1988
    came close enough to affect New Zealand’s weather. In addition, another
    three contributed to record floods in parts of New Zealand because of
    the warm moist tropical air their wind systems brought over the country,
    even though their centres of lowest pressure stayed well away from the
    land."

    Above from https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/the-ghost-of-cyclones-past/

    1936, a tale of destruction. Wow, ancient history eh? Maybe.

    Keep in mind the path comment, two can follow the same path.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Feb 26 23:41:56 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-02-26, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased >>lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those >>affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate >>change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.

    Okay, climate changers, how many of those cyclones, hurricans and typhoons >can you name? Well they blew alot harder than your narrative.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/two-new-tropical-cyclones-could-form-this-week-metservice/I4AOIPBUABCOFIXXV2HMYY6RAU/

    "Historically, late February and early March marked the height of our >November-to-April cyclone season.

    In a given week around this peak period, chances of a cyclone being
    present in the southwest Pacific was typically at least 50 per cent.

    Each season, around nine cyclones formed up in the southwest Pacific,
    of which least one travelled within 550km of our country.

    But this season had come with an elevated risk, with Niwa warning at
    its outset that one to two systems could head our way – as had since
    come to pass with Gabrielle and Hale."

    So in the November to April period there is a 50% chance that there will be
    a cyclone in the SW pacific.

    At present two are deciding that they might form.

    *****

    "As they move away from the tropics and over colder waters, tropical
    cyclones weaken and lose much of their characteristic structure.
    In particular, the narrow ring of cumulonimbus clouds known as the >“eye-wall,” which produces heavy rain and is surrounded by the
    relatively small area of maximum winds, breaks up and weakens.

    For two tropical cyclones to form in the tropics close together in
    space or time is not unusual. However, for two to take such similar
    paths as Fergus and Drena when they leave the tropics is rare, although
    not without precedent.

    In the ten cyclone seasons The Weekly News told the tale of destruction
    in 1936.

    Before this one, the low centres of four decaying tropical cyclones
    passed over New Zealand, while another five, such as Bola in 1988
    came close enough to affect New Zealand’s weather. In addition, another >three contributed to record floods in parts of New Zealand because of
    the warm moist tropical air their wind systems brought over the country,
    even though their centres of lowest pressure stayed well away from the
    land."

    Above from https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/the-ghost-of-cyclones-past/

    1936, a tale of destruction. Wow, ancient history eh? Maybe.

    Keep in mind the path comment, two can follow the same path.
    Yes indeed. The data is clear, whilst we do not want anymore of these - they will probably follow. There is nothing in the data that indicates man-made cyclone activity. Just nature doing what it does and has done for millenia.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Sun Feb 26 16:11:06 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:41:58 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-02-26, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased >>lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those >>affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate >>change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.

    Okay, climate changers, how many of those cyclones, hurricans and typhoons >can you name? Well they blew alot harder than your narrative.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/two-new-tropical-cyclones-could-form-this-week-metservice/I4AOIPBUABCOFIXXV2HMYY6RAU/

    "Historically, late February and early March marked the height of our >November-to-April cyclone season.

    In a given week around this peak period, chances of a cyclone being >present in the southwest Pacific was typically at least 50 per cent.

    Each season, around nine cyclones formed up in the southwest Pacific,
    of which least one travelled within 550km of our country.

    But this season had come with an elevated risk, with Niwa warning at
    its outset that one to two systems could head our way – as had since >come to pass with Gabrielle and Hale."

    So in the November to April period there is a 50% chance that there will be >a cyclone in the SW pacific.

    At present two are deciding that they might form.

    *****

    "As they move away from the tropics and over colder waters, tropical >cyclones weaken and lose much of their characteristic structure.
    In particular, the narrow ring of cumulonimbus clouds known as the >“eye-wall,” which produces heavy rain and is surrounded by the >relatively small area of maximum winds, breaks up and weakens.

    For two tropical cyclones to form in the tropics close together in
    space or time is not unusual. However, for two to take such similar
    paths as Fergus and Drena when they leave the tropics is rare, although >not without precedent.

    In the ten cyclone seasons The Weekly News told the tale of destruction
    in 1936.

    Before this one, the low centres of four decaying tropical cyclones
    passed over New Zealand, while another five, such as Bola in 1988
    came close enough to affect New Zealand’s weather. In addition, another >three contributed to record floods in parts of New Zealand because of
    the warm moist tropical air their wind systems brought over the country, >even though their centres of lowest pressure stayed well away from the >land."

    Above from https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/the-ghost-of-cyclones-past/

    1936, a tale of destruction. Wow, ancient history eh? Maybe.

    Keep in mind the path comment, two can follow the same path.
    Yes indeed. The data is clear, whilst we do not want anymore of these - they will probably follow. There is nothing in the data that indicates man-made cyclone activity. Just nature doing what it does and has done for millenia.
    Yet another inconvenient fact Rich is to stupid to take on board. Guess imbeciles like him are only capable of one incoherent thought at a time. In his case it's either how great Labour/Green are, or anyone who doesn't toe the climate change line is a
    climate denier or who needs democracy to watch over our water infrastructure. The trouble is Rich tends to mix the whole lot up that results in a lot of incoherent grizzling from him and, so typical of the left, no coherent plan to deal with the issues...

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Mon Feb 27 02:40:01 2023
    On 2023-02-26, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:01:52 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:41:54 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:

    https://climatlas.com/tropical/?fbclid=IwAR18ZWK90fNLCB9CmlY0ueN9Y8TgXUHOzLbvQ-zqOkWD0bM0SJBwiXfbseA

    I recently read several suggestions that cyclone activity has increased >> >>lately.
    The data does not bear that out.

    Maybe this was just our turn which will not and should not make those
    affected
    feel better.
    Using the recent and ongoing weather activity to shore up the "climate
    change
    is man-made" idiots is phoney and should be ignored.
    NIWA is part of an international study as to what effect the Tongan volcano >> >has had on our current weather. From an article I posted a link to several >> >weeks ago they seem to think it had quite an effect...
    There was a massive amount of water released - interesting science.
    A BILLION tonnes!

    It was estimated that this is 10% of the water in the atmosphere. (from memory). It all will come back to earth as the water vapour in the
    atmosphere as in balance before the eruption addition.

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