Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
On 2023-02-22, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:The upside is wood is cleaner than the Indonesian coal being used now. Plus it's available in large quantities on the east coast beaches and rivers :)
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...I have often thought that people can do get things when the politians get
out of the way.
This is the sort of thing which might work, but its looking good to date.
The cost might blow the scheme. However if it goes well its a win win.
The burning of wood to be sustainable has it own issues. The slash is not taken away. Basically it is take the tree trunks and to leave the rest.
Then we have this:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biomass-energy-green-or-dirty/
An interesting read, the food for thought type article.
(Certainly my learning for the day)
On 2023-02-22, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
I have often thought that people can do get things when the politians get
out of the way.
This is the sort of thing which might work, but its looking good to date.
The cost might blow the scheme. However if it goes well its a win win.
The burning of wood to be sustainable has it own issues. The slash is not >taken away. Basically it is take the tree trunks and to leave the rest.
Then we have this:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biomass-energy-green-or-dirty/
An interesting read, the food for thought type article.
(Certainly my learning for the day)
We should fully implement the emmissions trading schemes
and encourage efficiency
with the flooding, subsidising some groups and not others
is a luxury we cannot afford any longer.
Treating all the same will encourage innovation and efficiencies - and benefit those that act in
the best interests of the country.
On 23 Feb 2023 03:27:51 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Your reply looks good Rich. but how much is what you believe? The ETS should be canned because it's just a waste of money that won't achieve a bloody thing. At present New Zealand is failing miserably to meet it's climate commitments. We need to stop
On 2023-02-22, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
I have often thought that people can do get things when the politians get >out of the way.
This is the sort of thing which might work, but its looking good to date. >The cost might blow the scheme. However if it goes well its a win win.
The burning of wood to be sustainable has it own issues. The slash is not >taken away. Basically it is take the tree trunks and to leave the rest.
Then we have this:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biomass-energy-green-or-dirty/
An interesting read, the food for thought type article.
(Certainly my learning for the day)We should fully implement the emmissions trading schemes and encourage efficiency - with the flooding, subsidising some groups and not others
is a luxury we cannot afford any longer. Treating all the same will encourage innovation and efficiencies - and benefit those that act in
the best interests of the country.
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 4:27:54 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-22, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...I have often thought that people can do get things when the politians get out of the way.
This is the sort of thing which might work, but its looking good to date. The cost might blow the scheme. However if it goes well its a win win.
The burning of wood to be sustainable has it own issues. The slash is not taken away. Basically it is take the tree trunks and to leave the rest.
Then we have this:
https://physicsworld.com/a/biomass-energy-green-or-dirty/
An interesting read, the food for thought type article.
(Certainly my learning for the day)The upside is wood is cleaner than the Indonesian coal being used now. Plus it's available in large quantities on the east coast beaches and rivers :)
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
Bet we hear from the Greens on this calling for the government to ban
it.
I believe that's what they do with the slash in Sweden, Chip it and
burn it in power stations
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 11:33:44 +1300, Mutley <mutle...@hotmail.com>Are you incapable of staying on topic Rich!? Don't bother answering that we all know the answer is a resounding YES!
wrote:
John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huntly has just done a test that may help cut their emissions and help get rid of forestry rubbish so it doesn't get swept down rivers in the next flood.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/131298611/huntly-burns-wood-instead-of-coal-during-short-trial
Rich will probably have a little grizzle but then he probably uses a pushbike to get around and has a roof of solar panels...
Bet we hear from the Greens on this calling for the government to ban
it.
I believe that's what they do with the slash in Sweden, Chip it andThere have been some articles published recently on this - with mixed
burn it in power stations
views on whether it will increase or decrease emissions. The Huntly
plant was built for the use of coal - it may increase emissions if
wood is used, but that may be able to be mitigated if a plant was
designed for using slash. There may be issues relating to the cost of recovery and transport to Huntly - and salt and mud on logs may have
some effect.
The ministerial enquiry should identify the areas that should be investigated further - a science based approach is expected; and it
may result in different land management that affects more than just
the timber industry.
I was amused to hear praise for Christopher Luxon who said that the
timber industry in the Gisborne area is the only industry in New
Zealand which socialises the impact of the waste from their
operations. He seems to be unaware of the effect of run-off from
farming, and river pollution in many cisties from industry waste being discharged - it has been a constant battle for many local councils to
get rivers cleaned up, and a major reason why 3 Waters is needed - as
we have seen local Councils are not able to adequately prevent the
risks we are now aware of relating to severe weather events.
We are committed to paying money if we do not achieve emmissions
targets - that was accepted when the then National Government signed
us up to the international agreements, and those commitments have been supported by subsequent governments, and just this week again
committed to by the current Opposition leader. It is therefore
reasonable to apply emission costs to the use of either coal or slash
by the owners of the Huntly power station - they can then assess the
lowest net cost of using either coal or wood when they have to burn to generate electricity, and use the lowest cost option.
That best option may of course be to seek more generation capacity
through other methods altogether; there may be a way that slash can be
used in construction or in flood mitigation plans - the rush for a conclusion in days rather than months can sometimes not produce the
best long term results. It is not as though there is a shortage of
work on other issues in Auckland, the Coromandel, or Hawke Bay!
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