Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. >https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer >https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one >https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls >and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >totally wrong.No, I have corrected you on this a few times - I did not say that; you
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - evenNo, I have not.
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. >https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer >https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one >https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls >and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 03:25:12 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is a lie.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >>totally wrong.No, I have corrected you on this a few times - I did not say that; you
just saw what you wanted to see.
That is a lie.He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - >>evenNo, I have not.
more wrong.
I am very well - you are a liar.Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. >>https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer >>https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one >>https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if >>you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >>nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls >>and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
First, heal yourself . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:A fascinating study on human behaviour. Rich spent many posts deliberately confusing management and governance for purely political reasons and explicitly stated that governance is primarily a government thing - then he lies about it and becomes nasty.
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 03:25:12 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is a lie.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >>>totally wrong.No, I have corrected you on this a few times - I did not say that; you
just saw what you wanted to see.
That is a lie.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - >>>evenNo, I have not.
more wrong.
I am very well - you are a liar.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest. >>>https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer >>>https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one >>>https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if >>>you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >>>nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some >>>balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
First, heal yourself . . .
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of his iterations in this ng...
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:It is a good point Gordon.
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >>> totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn >>when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It >>doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - >>>even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
Or would you preferhttps://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Perhaps this onehttps://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if >>>youhttps://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >>> nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some >>>balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts to >>try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of his >>iterations in this ng...
On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When we, >the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure >to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury >by the public.
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the >lines will become blurred and things will decay.
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When we, the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury by the public.
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >> totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >> nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of his iterations in this ng...
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the lines will become blurred and things will decay.
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which you have clearly never understood.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When >>>we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >>> >> totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government >>> >>- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge >>> >>if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >>> >> nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some >>> >>balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever >>> >since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts >>> >to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure >>> to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury >>> by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very >>well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the >>> lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which
makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When we, >> the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure >> to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury >> by the public.
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >> >> totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >> >> nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of his iterations in this ng...
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the >> lines will become blurred and things will decay.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which >you have clearly never understood.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When >>>>we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to >>>> >learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever >>>> >since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some >>>> >>balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >>>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very >>>well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the >>>> lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >>management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which >>makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to >do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies. >Nobody else does.
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same - >>> >> totally wrong.Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government - even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but >>> >> nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure >>> to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury >>> by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the >>> lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which
makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 02:58:01 -0000 (UTC), TonySovreignty is all about ownership, but ownership is a word you do not understand (just like sovereignty, management and governance - phew there are a lot of words that are a mystery to you).
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management >>which
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When >>>>>we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same >>>>> >>-
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of
government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
Or would you preferhttps://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Perhaps this onehttps://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to >>>>> >learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice >>>>> >everAnyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you withhttps://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, >>>>> >>but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow >>>>> >>some
balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills. >>>>> > I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain
efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every >>>>> >one of
his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? >>>>>Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get >>>>>blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >>>>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could >>>>very
well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a >>>>lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government >>>>>the
lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >>>management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which >>>makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
you have clearly never understood.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to >>do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies. >>Nobody else does.
So explain: "The legislative reforms can proceed if the government
wishes to proceed with them, and a majority of the House votes in
favour of the legislation that gives effect to them. This is not
contrary to fundamental legal principles of our law. Rather, it
reflects that Parliamentary sovereignty is a fundamental principle of
our law."WHy should I explain that?
So sovereignity can but does not need to affect ownership - think
about it, Tony - and just accept that you are wrong . . .
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 02:58:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhereas you are just politically biased in favour of any stupidity that issues from your inglorious Labour party. Five waters is just a grab for council assets so they can be controlled by the iwi elite who have no bloody sovereignty at all!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So explain: "The legislative reforms can proceed if the government
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When >>>>we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to >>>> >learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some
balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills. >>>> > I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >>>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very
well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the
lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >>management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which >>makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
you have clearly never understood.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to
do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies. >Nobody else does.
wishes to proceed with them, and a majority of the House votes in
favour of the legislation that gives effect to them. This is not
contrary to fundamental legal principles of our law. Rather, it
reflects that Parliamentary sovereignty is a fundamental principle of
our law."
So sovereignity can but does not need to affect ownership - think
about it, Tony - and just accept that you are wrong . . .
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 02:58:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So explain: "The legislative reforms can proceed if the government
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When >>>>we,
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to >>>> >learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some
balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills. >>>> > I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >>>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very
well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the
lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and >>management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which >>makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
you have clearly never understood.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to
do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies. >Nobody else does.
wishes to proceed with them, and a majority of the House votes in
favour of the legislation that gives effect to them. This is not
contrary to fundamental legal principles of our law. Rather, it
reflects that Parliamentary sovereignty is a fundamental principle of
our law."
So sovereignity can but does not need to affect ownership - think
about it, Tony - and just accept that you are wrong . . .
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 4:31:31 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 02:58:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhereas you are just politically biased in favour of any stupidity that issues from your inglorious Labour party. Five waters is just a grab for council assets so they can be controlled by the iwi elite who have no bloody sovereignty at all!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So explain: "The legislative reforms can proceed if the government
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to >> >>>> >learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some
balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills. >> >>>> > I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
we,
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have >> >>>written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very
well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the
lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and
management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which
makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
you have clearly never understood.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to
do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies.
Nobody else does.
wishes to proceed with them, and a majority of the House votes in
favour of the legislation that gives effect to them. This is not
contrary to fundamental legal principles of our law. Rather, it
reflects that Parliamentary sovereignty is a fundamental principle of
our law."
So sovereignity can but does not need to affect ownership - think
about it, Tony - and just accept that you are wrong . . .
btw please note how sovereignty is spelt Rich or get a bloody spell checker!
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:17:59 -0800 (PST), John BowesYou should know what they are by now Rich! You've been told often enough!
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 4:31:31 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 02:58:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhereas you are just politically biased in favour of any stupidity that issues from your inglorious Labour party. Five waters is just a grab for council assets so they can be controlled by the iwi elite who have no bloody sovereignty at all!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:So explain: "The legislative reforms can proceed if the government
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 17:51:21 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe decision makes a clear distinction between governance and management which
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:03:20 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
On 2023-02-20, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:25:15 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:On a slightly wider view point. Are the roles of Government taught. When
Rich has many times stated that governance and management are the same -Good links Tony. However Rich seems to have decided he had nothing to
totally wrong.
He has also stated that governance is primarily a function of government
- even
more wrong.
Here you are Rich80105, read, mark, learn and inwardly digest.
https://community.net.nz/resources/community-resource-kit/4-2-governance-governance-and-management/
Or would you prefer
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_difference_between_governance_and_management
Perhaps this one
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roads-and-rail/rail/operating-a-railway/governance/what-is-governance/#:~:text=Governance%20is%20about%20planning%20the,in%20day%20to%20day%20operations.
Anyway there are thousands of sites that will provide you with knowledge
if you
have the integrity to seek them.
The difference is profound, massive and fundamentally vital.
Even a one person business uses both (possibly without realising it, but
nevertheless both are practised).
Here is your challenge - for the first time in this newsgroup grow some
balls
and admit you were wrong.
You won't though will you?
learn when he left school and has assiduously followed that practice ever
since. It doesn't help that he absolutely zero comprehension skills. >> >>>> > I have a huge amount of admiration for you and Crash in your vain efforts
to try and educate the compressionless imbecile that is Rich in every one of
his iterations in this ng...
we,
the people, elect the MPs to the House, what is their job discription? Sure
to form a Government, but after that I think that things start to get blury
by the public.
But do they have a job description? The current government seems to have
written their own. Or maybe considering what's been going on Rich could very
well have written it for them with weekly updates! Which could explain a lot :)
Unless the Public is clear as to the job decription for the Government the
lines will become blurred and things will decay.
And here is a court decision covering sovereignity, governance and
management; they are not confused unlike in the above discussion which >> >>makes it clear that Tony is confused.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/484581/three-waters-high-court-rules-against-councils-seeking-ownership-declaration
you have clearly never understood.
Sovereignty has nothing to do with either governance or management - it is to
do with ownership.
You keep lying and you have done it so often now that you believe your lies.
Nobody else does.
wishes to proceed with them, and a majority of the House votes in
favour of the legislation that gives effect to them. This is not
contrary to fundamental legal principles of our law. Rather, it
reflects that Parliamentary sovereignty is a fundamental principle of
our law."
So sovereignity can but does not need to affect ownership - think
about it, Tony - and just accept that you are wrong . . .
btw please note how sovereignty is spelt Rich or get a bloody spell checker! Up to 5 waters now are we? Do tell, John Bowes - what are those 5?It is called co-governance, not co-sovereignty, John Bowes, so your
question is irrelevant.
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