• Satire or just a joke?

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 21:47:18 2023
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an
    impact?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 11:13:22 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:48:13 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an impact?
    Interesting you don't include you and Labour in the list of those attacking politicians Rich. That's the funniest part of this sad little post of yours :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 08:36:53 2023
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:47:18 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >impact?

    Clearly a work of fiction. Only National can choose their leader and
    they have clearly taken a calculated risk in choosing someone who is
    the least-experienced ever MP. At least National MPs, overwhelmingly,
    bring real-world experience from employers who do not include
    Parliament, universities or government. Labour not so much.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Feb 17 08:50:49 2023
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 16 19:41:26 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left, but you salivated when you saw this bit of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 09:42:53 2023
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 16 21:02:52 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Thu Feb 16 13:13:25 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:02:54 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    Most stuff does that with Rich :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 13:46:18 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:29:24 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?: https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    Utter bullshit from the master of lies...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Fri Feb 17 11:12:33 2023
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 13:46:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:29:24 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >> >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >> >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >> >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >> >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be
    unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    Utter bullshit from the master of lies...

    It is a bit early for that, John Bowes - Sure Luxon has been a climate
    change denier and has resisted all those good initiatives by Labour,
    but Luxon now says that Climate Change is real and that we should be
    doing things to limit the impact. Quite a U-Turn, but don't hold your
    breath when it coes to actually supporting any real action by the
    government. Calling Luxon ''the master of lies'' is exactly the sort
    of over the top gratuitous nonsense that we have come to expect from
    you, John Bowes - perhaps you have been reading too much from the BFD
    and the Taxpayer Union.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Feb 17 10:28:34 2023
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be
    unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?: https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 16 22:34:00 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 13:46:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:29:24 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>> >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>> >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>> >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>> >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>> >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>> >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be
    unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    Utter bullshit from the master of lies...

    It is a bit early for that, John Bowes - Sure Luxon has been a climate
    change denier
    No he hasn't, post a cite or be damned.
    and has resisted all those good initiatives by Labour,
    but Luxon now says that Climate Change is real and that we should be
    doing things to limit the impact. Quite a U-Turn, but don't hold your
    breath when it coes to actually supporting any real action by the
    government. Calling Luxon ''the master of lies'' is exactly the sort
    of over the top gratuitous nonsense that we have come to expect from
    you, John Bowes - perhaps you have been reading too much from the BFD
    and the Taxpayer Union.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 16 22:32:23 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.
    You are wrong on both counts, and what Crash posted whoosehed over your head.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be >unacceptable to most New Zealanders.What policies?

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?: >https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    I cvan't be bothered with your off topic divesrions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Thu Feb 16 15:41:10 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 11:34:03 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 13:46:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:29:24 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>> >>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>> >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>> >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an
    impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had >>> >>>a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be
    unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    Utter bullshit from the master of lies...

    It is a bit early for that, John Bowes - Sure Luxon has been a climate >change denier
    No he hasn't, post a cite or be damned.
    and has resisted all those good initiatives by Labour,
    but Luxon now says that Climate Change is real and that we should be
    doing things to limit the impact. Quite a U-Turn, but don't hold your >breath when it coes to actually supporting any real action by the >government. Calling Luxon ''the master of lies'' is exactly the sort
    of over the top gratuitous nonsense that we have come to expect from
    you, John Bowes - perhaps you have been reading too much from the BFD
    and the Taxpayer Union.
    Of course he hasn't Tony and Rich won't post a cite because as so often he's telling an outright lie! The only thing he ever does in his efforts to make the useless look like a viable political party!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 15:39:14 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 11:13:28 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 13:46:18 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:29:24 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:02:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >> >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >> >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an
    impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had >> >>>a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.
    Well that went whoosh over your head eh?
    I pointed out that the Taxpayer Union has now taken to personal
    attacks rather than just espusing extremist policies.

    Still at least they have some policies, even though they would be
    unacceptable to most New Zealanders.

    So is the following satire or just a joke, Tony?:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/113icr6/time_to_address_climate_change/
    Utter bullshit from the master of lies...
    It is a bit early for that, John Bowes - Sure Luxon has been a climate change denier and has resisted all those good initiatives by Labour,
    but Luxon now says that Climate Change is real and that we should be
    doing things to limit the impact. Quite a U-Turn, but don't hold your
    breath when it coes to actually supporting any real action by the government. Calling Luxon ''the master of lies'' is exactly the sort
    of over the top gratuitous nonsense that we have come to expect from
    you, John Bowes - perhaps you have been reading too much from the BFD
    and the Taxpayer Union.
    So you post more bullshit to support your senseless attack on Luxon. Bloody typical of fucking imbecilic hypocrites like you Rich! I get more truth from the BFD and Taxpayer Union than I've ever got from you, Labour, thestranded and norightturn! All of
    you wouldn't comprehend the truth if it bit you! As you well know YOU are the 'master (or is it mistress)of lies Rich! you and your non scientific approach to anything is just a sick joke!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 13:07:15 2023
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:42:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.

    Yet you do not cite an example. I cited an example to support my view
    - so should you.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 14:08:38 2023
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:07:15 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:42:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.

    Yet you do not cite an example. I cited an example to support my view
    - so should you.

    Here is an example then of an article where in my view that was in my
    view some unwarranted unkindness relating to one politician at least. https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 14:29:59 2023
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:08:38 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:07:15 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:42:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.

    Yet you do not cite an example. I cited an example to support my view
    - so should you.

    Here is an example then of an article where in my view that was in my
    view some unwarranted unkindness relating to one politician at least. >https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Keep up Rich. Look at my previous posts, and your responses to me,
    then cite an example of the Taxpayers Union behaving posting as you
    accuse them of.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 18:05:02 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 2:09:32 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:07:15 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:42:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 08:50:49 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:41:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one? >>>>>
    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like >>>>>Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above >>>>>could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes >>>>>a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is >>>>>no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon; >>>>>does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >>>>>impact?
    The taxpayers union is not anti left,

    Correct. This is a Taxpayer Union publication from 2015 (hint we had
    a National-led Government then)

    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/new_kids

    No less hard-hitting with the picture of a pig, than now.

    but you salivated when you saw this bit
    of silliness and could not wait to post it.
    Nasty attacks are what you do.

    The article you post espoused a particular political point of view,
    but did not make a personal attack on the politicians of the day.

    Yet you do not cite an example. I cited an example to support my view
    - so should you.
    Here is an example then of an article where in my view that was in my
    view some unwarranted unkindness relating to one politician at least. https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?
    You're a joke Rich. You practice unwarranted unkindness in a vain effort to be funny yet you now claim (falsely) that somebody else is wrong in doing what you do. All to admit you're just a sad joke! :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 18 08:49:51 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    https://nickrockel.substack.com/p/rolling-christopher-luxon-part-one?

    Generally nasty attacks on politicians are from nasty people like
    Slater and the Taxpayer Union, attacking the left, but hte link above
    could be seen as a similar style against Chris Luxon. I think it goes
    a bit far, but what do others think. From what I have seen there is
    no-one better to lead National in parliament at present than Luxon;
    does this sort of article indicate that he is starting to be making an >impact?

    Oh Rich. You're upset because they don't follow the media direction
    to praise up anything Labor and slag off at anything National or ACT.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)