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    From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 17:53:32 2023
    Good job. Now, how much money did Labour piss against the wall on this absolute turkey of a policy?

    Next up, compulsory unemployment tax.

    When it's all done and dusted, will we see that Labour really have done nothing but piss money away since they got their unbridled power?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to JohnO on Wed Feb 8 03:21:41 2023
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Good job. Now, how much money did Labour piss against the wall on this >absolute turkey of a policy?

    Next up, compulsory unemployment tax.

    When it's all done and dusted, will we see that Labour really have done >nothing but piss money away since they got their unbridled power?
    Yes and more have followed - just a bribe of course. I guess there must be an election due soon!!!

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Feb 8 20:20:09 2023
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 03:21:41 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Good job. Now, how much money did Labour piss against the wall on this >>absolute turkey of a policy?

    Next up, compulsory unemployment tax.

    When it's all done and dusted, will we see that Labour really have done >>nothing but piss money away since they got their unbridled power?
    Yes and more have followed - just a bribe of course. I guess there must be an >election due soon!!!

    Yep - this is the beginnings of recognition from Labour that the
    electorate does not support the changes they have initiated since
    2020. Their triumph is one of ideology - addressing 18th-century of
    injustices to Maori with 21st-century democracy defined as 17% of the population that can trace their forbears to pre-European Maori having
    50% co-governance of nationwide water assets. We can but wonder at
    future policies developed without pre-election debate on other
    solutions prescribed in the He Puapua report. Unlike past reforming
    Labour governments, they will not survive the first election after
    these reforms, and for very good reason. Co-governance as defined in
    the provisions of the Water reforms legislation is their death-knell
    and rightly so. Tinkering with largely irrelevant future further
    reforms is like trying to extinguish a city-wide fire with a single
    garden hose - encouraging for a brief period until it is clear that
    effort is doomed to fail.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Thu Feb 9 01:06:04 2023
    On 2023-02-08, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 03:21:41 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Good job. Now, how much money did Labour piss against the wall on this >>>absolute turkey of a policy?

    Next up, compulsory unemployment tax.

    When it's all done and dusted, will we see that Labour really have done >>>nothing but piss money away since they got their unbridled power?
    Yes and more have followed - just a bribe of course. I guess there must be an >>election due soon!!!

    Yep - this is the beginnings of recognition from Labour that the
    electorate does not support the changes they have initiated since
    2020.

    However it does not kill and bury all the polices which have not been
    debated or are unpopular.

    This is just a case of de-clutter the polices which will have not affect
    other than to apease the swing voter. Once in again it will be a case of business as usual. Out of storage with the old policies and away way go.

    Called kicking it down the road, or in the too hard basket.

    Their triumph is one of ideology - addressing 18th-century of
    injustices to Maori with 21st-century democracy defined as 17% of the population that can trace their forbears to pre-European Maori having
    50% co-governance of nationwide water assets. We can but wonder at
    future policies developed without pre-election debate on other
    solutions prescribed in the He Puapua report. Unlike past reforming
    Labour governments, they will not survive the first election after
    these reforms, and for very good reason. Co-governance as defined in
    the provisions of the Water reforms legislation is their death-knell
    and rightly so. Tinkering with largely irrelevant future further
    reforms is like trying to extinguish a city-wide fire with a single
    garden hose - encouraging for a brief period until it is clear that
    effort is doomed to fail.

    It is the going, gone authorian approach along with some hidden agendas and dragging race into it, rewriting history, has got the people angry.

    All of this shows that a best the Government is kind or caring about the
    people in general.

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to Gordon on Mon Feb 13 09:09:47 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-02-08, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 03:21:41 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    Good job. Now, how much money did Labour piss against the wall on this >>>>absolute turkey of a policy?

    Next up, compulsory unemployment tax.

    When it's all done and dusted, will we see that Labour really have done >>>>nothing but piss money away since they got their unbridled power?
    Yes and more have followed - just a bribe of course. I guess there must be an
    election due soon!!!

    Yep - this is the beginnings of recognition from Labour that the
    electorate does not support the changes they have initiated since
    2020.

    However it does not kill and bury all the polices which have not been
    debated or are unpopular.

    This is just a case of de-clutter the polices which will have not affect >other than to apease the swing voter. Once in again it will be a case of >business as usual. Out of storage with the old policies and away way go.

    Called kicking it down the road, or in the too hard basket.

    Their triumph is one of ideology - addressing 18th-century of
    injustices to Maori with 21st-century democracy defined as 17% of the
    population that can trace their forbears to pre-European Maori having
    50% co-governance of nationwide water assets. We can but wonder at
    future policies developed without pre-election debate on other
    solutions prescribed in the He Puapua report. Unlike past reforming
    Labour governments, they will not survive the first election after
    these reforms, and for very good reason. Co-governance as defined in
    the provisions of the Water reforms legislation is their death-knell
    and rightly so. Tinkering with largely irrelevant future further
    reforms is like trying to extinguish a city-wide fire with a single
    garden hose - encouraging for a brief period until it is clear that
    effort is doomed to fail.

    It is the going, gone authorian approach along with some hidden agendas and >dragging race into it, rewriting history, has got the people angry.

    All of this shows that a best the Government is kind or caring about the >people in general.

    Yes if they somehow get back in all the postponed policies will be
    right back and left of center.

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  • From Ras Mikaere@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 00:29:27 2023
    Hey Mutley --
    Have You Received All Of Your Canine Vaccines ?
    Really Though --- What Kind Of Animal Are You ??

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