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  • It wasn't climate change! :)

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 24 20:47:49 2023
    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 24 23:29:41 2023
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:22:39 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...
    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant roleā€. "

    It's a pity you didn't comprehend or bother to comprehend the article because it doesn't fit your climate warming agenda Rich. but it's okay you're the only dumb ass prepared to ignore the reality and push the UN and your agenda to keep the fear going :)


    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    No ideberg has ever been connected to climate change Rich!


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    I was happy when I made the original post Rich. You've done exactly as expected, introduced garbage that has nothing to do with the article. but guess being an imbecile like you it's to be expected...

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Wed Jan 25 20:18:27 2023
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant role”. "

    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Wed Jan 25 20:48:39 2023
    On 2023-01-25, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:22:39 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...
    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant roleā€. "

    It's a pity you didn't comprehend or bother to comprehend the article because it doesn't fit your climate warming agenda Rich. but it's okay you're the only dumb ass prepared to ignore the reality and push the UN and your agenda to keep the fear going :
    )


    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    No ideberg has ever been connected to climate change Rich!


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    I was happy when I made the original post Rich. You've done exactly as expected, introduced garbage that has nothing to do with the article. but guess being an imbecile like you it's to be expected...

    The ice on Antartica is higher than the sea level and thus were it meets the sea there are clifs as the sea erodes the ice away. Undermines the botton of the cliff face. Gravity causes cracks in the ice sheet to form.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Jan 25 12:49:49 2023
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 9:35:35 AM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2023-01-25, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has played a significant roleā€. "

    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .
    The question still remains, is the climate change caused by increasing levels of CO2?

    It's caused by far more than CO2 Gordon. Volcanoes and the sun can drive it and 20,000 years ago they think a comet was responsible for a sudden drop in temperature and massive rise in sea levels. It's also because we're coming out of an ice age. Yes Man
    does need to accept some responsibility but mans actions are just one of a long list of causes.

    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?
    If the climate did not change then what caused the glacier to retreat in the 1700's?

    Guess it was Maori burning all the forest so they could plant food. Besides which that was when the little ice age was warming up. But according to the great Rich loser we're supposed to ignore facts like that and the fact climate has ALWAYS changed :)

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 25 20:35:32 2023
    On 2023-01-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant roleĀ”. "

    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    The question still remains, is the climate change caused by increasing
    levels of CO2?


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    If the climate did not change then what caused the glacier to retreat in the 1700's?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Jan 26 10:44:26 2023
    On 25 Jan 2023 20:35:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-01-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant role?. "

    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    The question still remains, is the climate change caused by increasing
    levels of CO2?


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    If the climate did not change then what caused the glacier to retreat in the >1700's?

    It seems it is quite complex - see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Glacier
    and
    https://www.westwoodlodge.co.nz/franz-josef/
    and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Glacier

    Do you have any references for a retreat in the 1700's?

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Jan 25 13:27:58 2023
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 9:48:41 AM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2023-01-25, John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:22:39 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...
    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant roleā€. "

    It's a pity you didn't comprehend or bother to comprehend the article because it doesn't fit your climate warming agenda Rich. but it's okay you're the only dumb ass prepared to ignore the reality and push the UN and your agenda to keep the fear
    going :)


    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    No ideberg has ever been connected to climate change Rich!


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    I was happy when I made the original post Rich. You've done exactly as expected, introduced garbage that has nothing to do with the article. but guess being an imbecile like you it's to be expected...
    The ice on Antartica is higher than the sea level and thus were it meets the sea there are clifs as the sea erodes the ice away. Undermines the botton of the cliff face. Gravity causes cracks in the ice sheet to form.
    Many if not most of those ice cliffs rest on the sea floor. In this case the break was caused by an undersea mount.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 25 17:15:56 2023
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:48:38 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On 25 Jan 2023 20:35:32 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2023-01-25, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:47:49 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Surprise, surprise! An iceberg has broken from the Brunt ice shelf and it's not being blamed on climate change. In fact the scientists seem to be fairly laid back about this 500 billion tonne ice cube :)
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300792243/spectacular-giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antarctica

    Wonder how Jimmy Shaw and the rest of the panic merchants will react to it...

    If they read it at all they may well read the whole article which
    includes:
    "Unlike some previous icebergs and collapsed ice shelves that have
    been linked to climate change, the BAS press release said the break is
    a "natural process" and there is "no evidence that climate change has
    played a significant role?. "

    So some previous idebergs and collapsed ice shelves _have_ been linked
    to climate change . . .

    The question still remains, is the climate change caused by increasing >levels of CO2?


    It is a bit like tracking the Franz Joseph Glacier - some of the
    retreat from the sea is natural and nothing to do with climate change,
    but some may well be linked to climate change. No need to be
    surprised, John - not everything that happens is linked to Climate
    CHange as you may have thought - but clearly some changes are so
    linked. Happy now?

    If the climate did not change then what caused the glacier to retreat in the >1700's?
    It seems it is quite complex - see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Glacier
    and
    https://www.westwoodlodge.co.nz/franz-josef/
    and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Glacier

    Do you have any references for a retreat in the 1700's?
    Do you plan to get back on topic any time in the next decade?

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