• Vaccines and viral variants

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 24 01:07:36 2023
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVZNVQ3Xps 33mins

    John Campbell

    From the site

    The use of antibiotics has promoted antibiotic resistance,
    which is a major global threat to the treatment of bacterial
    infections. The bacteria which survive are the ones which are
    resistance to an antibiotic. These are the bacteria which
    will survive to infect the next person.

    The situation is much the same with vaccines which act
    against viral infection.

    Vaccines which do not sterilise the body of a virus will leave
    some viral particles alive. It is these surviving viruses,
    which are not killed by vaccine induced antibodies, that
    survive to reproduce. This is why vaccines can lead to the
    evolution of new variants of a virus. In other words, the
    virus must evolve to avoid vaccine induced immunity.

    It is also noted that repeated vaccination can stimulate
    the T suppressor lymphocytes that actually inhibit the
    immune response.

    We discuss the difference between mucosal and systemic
    immunity. Active and passive immunity are discussed, active
    immunity is generated by antigen exposure.

    Professor Clancy also clarifies my thinking on point
    mutations versus recombinant new variants. This difference
    accounts for viral genetic shift and drift. We note that
    shifts are associated by significant immune escape.
    Fortunately, these genetic changes have so far led to
    covid viruses which cause less severe disease, while
    still being very transmissible. This has reduced serious
    illness and deaths, while promoting widespread natural
    immunity.

    Unquote

    A very interesting discussion.

    So here we have the facts lining up with Willy's views. The pandemic is
    those of the vaccinated and stop jabbing and counting and it will soon be
    over.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Tue Jan 24 19:13:43 2023
    On 24 Jan 2023 01:07:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVZNVQ3Xps 33mins

    John Campbell

    From the site

    The use of antibiotics has promoted antibiotic resistance,
    which is a major global threat to the treatment of bacterial
    infections. The bacteria which survive are the ones which are
    resistance to an antibiotic. These are the bacteria which
    will survive to infect the next person.

    The situation is much the same with vaccines which act
    against viral infection.

    Vaccines which do not sterilise the body of a virus will leave
    some viral particles alive. It is these surviving viruses,
    which are not killed by vaccine induced antibodies, that
    survive to reproduce. This is why vaccines can lead to the
    evolution of new variants of a virus. In other words, the
    virus must evolve to avoid vaccine induced immunity.

    It is also noted that repeated vaccination can stimulate
    the T suppressor lymphocytes that actually inhibit the
    immune response.

    We discuss the difference between mucosal and systemic
    immunity. Active and passive immunity are discussed, active
    immunity is generated by antigen exposure.

    Professor Clancy also clarifies my thinking on point
    mutations versus recombinant new variants. This difference
    accounts for viral genetic shift and drift. We note that
    shifts are associated by significant immune escape.
    Fortunately, these genetic changes have so far led to
    covid viruses which cause less severe disease, while
    still being very transmissible. This has reduced serious
    illness and deaths, while promoting widespread natural
    immunity.

    Unquote

    A very interesting discussion.

    So here we have the facts lining up with Willy's views. The pandemic is
    those of the vaccinated and stop jabbing and counting and it will soon be >over.


    There are over 20,000 New Zealanders alive today because quick
    decisions were made. We were all unvaccinated but not having
    widespread infection when they were using bulldovers to create mass
    graves in the USA.

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