https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do whatever >they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for gangs
also.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do whatever >>they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene
immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up
chasing you.
--Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Crash McBash
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up
chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Plus nothing to support his claim we now have enough police...
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >they can with the resources made available by government. That theyYouhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a post that had no political intent.
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:54:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>To assure the public that some offending had not been ignored?
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhy then do the Police need to announce a crackdown on criminal
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
activity that occurred in the past?
Not what I read into the quotation above. Police cannot be everywhereWhile we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>effect on those being warned.
Yes - the statement is that gang activity that is illegal may be
revisited after the event by the Police and offenders may be
apprehended. I am sure such offenders will feel the effects - of
their laughter.
The specifics of the article were not referenced by the more general
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
The article was about a specific incident where widespread lawless
activity went on without Police attending. Your rhetoric above is >questionable but off-topic because what you claim was not referenced
in the article.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), TonySp?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a >>post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a >post that had no political intent.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), TonySp?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a >>>post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), TonySo what?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), TonySp?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that >>>>>>>>for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in >>>>a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 11:11:46 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>OK that is true. But the article was, I assumed, going to be read by intelligent people. Obviously in your case I was optimistic.
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:54:47 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:To assure the public that some offending had not been ignored?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhy then do the Police need to announce a crackdown on criminal
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for >>>>>>gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
activity that occurred in the past?
Not what I read into the quotation above. Police cannot be everywhereWhile we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>effect on those being warned.
Yes - the statement is that gang activity that is illegal may be
revisited after the event by the Police and offenders may be
apprehended. I am sure such offenders will feel the effects - of
their laughter.
that an offence may be committed - expecting them to be at or near
every gang meeting for example is clearly not justified.
The specifics of the article were not referenced by the more general
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
The article was about a specific incident where widespread lawless
activity went on without Police attending. Your rhetoric above is >>questionable but off-topic because what you claim was not referenced
in the article.
comments of the OP.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 13:34:53 -0800 (PST), John BowesSo this was just more of your typical bullshit then Rich "While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:28:24 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:I did not make that claim; certainly numbers are only one factor -
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Plus nothing to support his claim we now have enough police...
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYouhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >> >>>>whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene
immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >> >>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >> >>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up
chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >> >effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >> >they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
post that had no political intent.
many of the new police officers employed by the new government will
now have sufficient experience to make a real difference; one aim
becoming more possible is not just to catch and punish, but to prevent
crime in the first place.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), TonySo what?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that >>>>>>>>>for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in >>>>>a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyGo away you sarcastic twat.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), TonySo what?
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that >>>>>>>>>>for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the >>>>>>>>>faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary >>>>>>in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:28:24 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Plus nothing to support his claim we now have enough police...
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYouhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary in a >> post that had no political intent.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile.
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene
immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the
safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our
staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up
chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as
just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the
expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they
cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all
criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less
success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as
newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate
financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they
are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of
resources they currently have.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyGo away you sarcastic twat.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to do >>>>>>>>>>>whateverhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that
for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at >>>>>>>>>>the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary >>>>>>>in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:07:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyGo away you sarcastic twat.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to dohttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that
for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary >>>>>>>>in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
I am sure we can agree that it is good that the police are able to
follow up on possible crimes, even if they cannot be everywhere at
once; that morons no longer have the ability to do whatever they want,
and that the law is now able to be better enforced than was prevously possible. And of course that neither you or I are being political in
wecoming this change of circumstances. . . . - even if you cannot
always be civil to other posters.
On 2023-01-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:07:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Go away you sarcastic twat.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to >>>>>>>>>>>>>dohttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced >>>>>>>>>>>>>that
for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you >>>>>>>>>>>>at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - >>>>>>>>>>>>the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political >>>>>>>>>commentary
in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
I am sure we can agree that it is good that the police are able to
follow up on possible crimes, even if they cannot be everywhere at
once; that morons no longer have the ability to do whatever they want,
and that the law is now able to be better enforced than was prevously
possible. And of course that neither you or I are being political in
wecoming this change of circumstances. . . . - even if you cannot
always be civil to other posters.
To me this whole sitaution is a cop out.All correct Gordon.
Take the case of a parent, do they let John and Jill run wild while they are >in their present and then a couple of days later tackle John and Jill on
what they have done?
If we do not have enough Police for them to appear on the scene then we need >more Police.
As it is the crimnals are allowing to do the deed and then maybe but some >punishment. Part of the Police going to the scene while it is happening is
to stop the situation from getting out of hand.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:07:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyYes it was.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyGo away you sarcastic twat.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to >>>>>>>>>>>>dohttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced >>>>>>>>>>>>that
for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
”This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.”
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - >>>>>>>>>>>the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an >>>>>>>>>effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter >>>>>>>>>or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as >>>>>>>>>they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary >>>>>>>>in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
I am sure we can agree that it is good that the police are able toI am far more civil than you at all times. I do not use sarcasm as a weapon, you do. I do not inject political scorn into other people's threads, you do. And you are being politoical in this thread. I am not. End of story.
follow up on possible crimes, even if they cannot be everywhere at
once; that morons no longer have the ability to do whatever they want,
and that the law is now able to be better enforced than was prevously >possible. And of course that neither you or I are being political in
wecoming this change of circumstances. . . . - even if you cannot
always be civil to other posters.
On 2023-01-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:07:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Go away you sarcastic twat.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to dohttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced that
for
gangs
also.
---
It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you >>>>>>>>>>>>are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
?This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.?
---
So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up >>>>>>>>>>>>chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political commentary
in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
I am sure we can agree that it is good that the police are able to
follow up on possible crimes, even if they cannot be everywhere at
once; that morons no longer have the ability to do whatever they want,
and that the law is now able to be better enforced than was prevously
possible. And of course that neither you or I are being political in
wecoming this change of circumstances. . . . - even if you cannot
always be civil to other posters.
To me this whole sitaution is a cop out.
Take the case of a parent, do they let John and Jill run wild while they are >in their present and then a couple of days later tackle John and Jill on
what they have done?
If we do not have enough Police for them to appear on the scene then we need >more Police.
As it is the crimnals are allowing to do the deed and then maybe but some >punishment. Part of the Police going to the scene while it is happening is
to stop the situation from getting out of hand.
On 13 Jan 2023 03:13:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Totally off topic but there you nearly always are.
On 2023-01-13, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:07:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No sarcasm; it was a genuine question.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:40:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Go away you sarcastic twat.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:27:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So what?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:So?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:28:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Sp?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:38:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:While I agree that the announcement is excellent, I do not see it as >>>>>>>>>>>just a start - it is a continuation of current policy; but the >>>>>>>>>>>expression of it at this time is relevant for the gangs.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 04:50:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Yes I agree. But hopefully something after the event is worthwhile. >>>>>>>>>>>
Time to stop the pussy-footing. We must not allow these morons to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dohttps://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/130959619/police-to-seize-vehicles-and-issue-fines-if-laws-broken-during-mongrel-mob-tangi
whatever
they want.
If I disobey the law I accept the consequences, time we enforced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
for
gangs
also.
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It seems though that the Police wont come gunning for you while you
are up to your antics though:
"McDaniel said it was not always possible for police to intervene >>>>>>>>>>>>>immediately in every situation of potential offending, given the >>>>>>>>>>>>>safety risks.
?This decision-making takes into consideration the safety of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>staff, the public and other road users.?
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So if you are aggressive enough the Police will not come after you >>>>>>>>>>>>>at
the time. A bit like the speeders who don't stop for the Police - >>>>>>>>>>>>>the
faster you flee the greater the chance that the Police will give up
chasing you.
--
Crash McBash
While we have a lot more police than we had a few years ago, they >>>>>>>>>>>cannot be everywhere; but statements like the one reported can have >>>>>>>>>>>an
effect on those being warned.
You must know that the police never have and never will catch all >>>>>>>>>>>criminals - and it is well known that among those areas with less >>>>>>>>>>>success than others are so-called 'white-collar' crimes. Not as >>>>>>>>>>>newsworthy as violent yobs like the gangs or the Christchurch >>>>>>>>>>>shooter
or the yob protestors at parliament, but with a disproprtionate >>>>>>>>>>>financial effect.
The police have never been pussy-footing - they work as effectively >>>>>>>>>>>as
they can with the resources made available by government. That they >>>>>>>>>>>are able to do more now is a reflection on the better level of >>>>>>>>>>>resources they currently have.
Youhave added nothing and introduced thinly veiled political >>>>>>>>>>commentary
in
a
post that had no political intent.
Sp who had been pussy-footing, Tony?
I am sure we can agree that it is good that the police are able to
follow up on possible crimes, even if they cannot be everywhere at
once; that morons no longer have the ability to do whatever they want,
and that the law is now able to be better enforced than was prevously
possible. And of course that neither you or I are being political in
wecoming this change of circumstances. . . . - even if you cannot
always be civil to other posters.
To me this whole sitaution is a cop out.
Take the case of a parent, do they let John and Jill run wild while they are >>in their present and then a couple of days later tackle John and Jill on >>what they have done?
If we do not have enough Police for them to appear on the scene then we need >>more Police.
As it is the crimnals are allowing to do the deed and then maybe but some >>punishment. Part of the Police going to the scene while it is happening is >>to stop the situation from getting out of hand.
As we have seen from some situations overseas - for example at sports
games) it is important that the presence of police does not inflame >situations and cause tragedy from offences which could be handled more >quietly at the time but with follow up. Some countries arm their
police with more resources for filming; I suspect that in some
situations it is to the advantage of the police to have all members
wearing a body camera so that stored images from each person are
available subsequently.
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:27:21 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
Congratulations. You have just made a case for the right to keep and
bear arms.
Bill.
BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:No, just BR and now you Tony misinterpteing a clear fact.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:27:21 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
Congratulations. You have just made a case for the right to keep and
bear arms.
Bill.
The law of unintended consequences eh?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:09:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhy would you want that - I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:No, just BR and now you Tony misinterpteing a clear fact.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:27:21 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
Congratulations. You have just made a case for the right to keep and
bear arms.
Bill.
The law of unintended consequences eh?
For example, do you want armed police in every retail store to stop >shoplifting and ram raids?
Do you want police in your home to prevent family violence?There is no family violence in my home, but in your case, perhaps that would be necessary.
Will you keep being stupid in misinterpreting posts?You showed you idiocy, and Bill picked up on it - good on him; time and time again you deliberately twist what others write - you are a fraud.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Arising from your stupid and incorrect reference to ""law of
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:09:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhy would you want that - I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:No, just BR and now you Tony misinterpteing a clear fact.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:27:21 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
Congratulations. You have just made a case for the right to keep and >>>>bear arms.
Bill.
The law of unintended consequences eh?
For example, do you want armed police in every retail store to stop >>shoplifting and ram raids?
There is no family violence in my home, but in your case, perhaps that would be
Do you want police in your home to prevent family violence?
necessary.
I merely apply logic - I would recommend that you think about that atYou showed you idiocy, and Bill picked up on it - good on him; time and time >again you deliberately twist what others write - you are a fraud.
Will you keep being stupid in misinterpreting posts?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 20:20:23 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour comment was exactly what I descibed - it opbeyed the said law. You know it, I know it and only you are the fool here.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Arising from your stupid and incorrect reference to ""law of
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:09:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhy would you want that - I don't.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:No, just BR and now you Tony misinterpteing a clear fact.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:27:21 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
Police cannot be everywhere that an offence may be committed...
Congratulations. You have just made a case for the right to keep and >>>>>bear arms.
Bill.
The law of unintended consequences eh?
For example, do you want armed police in every retail store to stop >>>shoplifting and ram raids?
unintended consequences"", I made the point that it was a clear >misinterpretation, and asked you a simple question to illustrate that
- naturally you misunderstood, but you did concede that you do not
want police to be everywhere that an offence may be committed.
Wrong, I am advocating nothing. Merely wondering why you would advocate such a thing. That was your clear intention otherwise why ask such a pitifully stupid question, so why did you ask it?There is no family violence in my home, but in your case, perhaps that would >>be
Do you want police in your home to prevent family violence?
necessary.
Now you appear to be advocating for police to be in at least some
homes to prevent fmaily violence - clearly yur stupidity knows no
bounds in your determination to never agree with anything . . .
You are a fraud, you blame others for not having lofic when you have proven hundreds of times that you cannot follow simple logical steps.I merely apply logic - I would recommend that you think about that atYou showed you idiocy, and Bill picked up on it - good on him; time and time >>again you deliberately twist what others write - you are a fraud.
Will you keep being stupid in misinterpreting posts?
least, and if you cannot have logical thoughts just read posts from
others and hopefully learn . . .
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