• As at, least some, Australians see us.

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 19:03:59 2023
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 12 08:41:44 2023
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 10:09:11 2023
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.

    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Jan 11 12:58:36 2023
    On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 09:48:08 UTC+13, Crash wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.


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    I thought the comments section made good reading too.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 09:48:06 2023
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.


    --
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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 13:40:01 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.
    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .
    Funny how you who prefer to remain anonymous are questioning someone else practicing what you practice Rich. Actually I find it fucking hilarious how you preach against someone else doing what you do on a daily basis :)

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 13:51:12 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 8:44:37 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.
    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    Funny how any site that tells the truth about Labour earns your accolade of it's 'fake news'. In reality the major purveyor of 'fake news' is your very incompetent Labour party and it's commissars like you Rich :)

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 10:54:39 2023
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:40:01 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little
    over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly
    deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our
    National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.
    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .
    Funny how you who prefer to remain anonymous are questioning someone else practicing what you practice Rich. Actually I find it fucking hilarious how you preach against someone else doing what you do on a daily basis :)

    I suspect "Flat White" is not a real name, but I only have your word
    that "John Bowes" is your real name. Pseudonyms are far more common on
    Usenet than in other forums; I have been using the same posting name
    for many years.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 11 23:24:17 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:40:01 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little
    over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>> >>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>> >>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>> >>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our
    National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.
    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .
    Funny how you who prefer to remain anonymous are questioning someone else >>practicing what you practice Rich. Actually I find it fucking hilarious how you
    preach against someone else doing what you do on a daily basis :)

    I suspect "Flat White" is not a real name, but I only have your word
    that "John Bowes" is your real name. Pseudonyms are far more common on
    Usenet than in other forums; I have been using the same posting name
    for many years.
    And it is not your own - we know that so how is that different to any others here who do not use their own names. I do by the way but do not expect others to do so.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 15:15:32 2023
    On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 10:12:02 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.
    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .

    Editorials are routinely anonymous. Key's appearance was was Rugby World Cup related, not WOW.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 12:25:46 2023
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 10:09:11 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.

    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous?

    No. I agree that articles like this published on a branded media
    website are of suspect provenance but only in respect of claims and
    statements made.

    I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .

    You made no comment about the claims and statements made, and you
    still have not. How unusual of you Rich.

    If you cannot find anything in the content of a post or article worth commenting on, why post? The answer is that you clearly see nothing
    actually worth commenting on but you cannot pass up the opportunity to
    insert political rhetoric into the thread that is irrelevant to the
    claims and statements made.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 15:31:11 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:57:32 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:40:01 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nog...@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little
    over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old, >> >>but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >> >>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >> >>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >> >>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >> >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.
    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .
    Funny how you who prefer to remain anonymous are questioning someone else practicing what you practice Rich. Actually I find it fucking hilarious how you preach against someone else doing what you do on a daily basis :)
    I suspect "Flat White" is not a real name, but I only have your word
    that "John Bowes" is your real name. Pseudonyms are far more common on Usenet than in other forums; I have been using the same posting name
    for many years.
    I know you've been hiding behind a nym for many years Rich! I just find it typically hypocritical of you attacking another nym user just because they've told the truth about New Zealand and shown your beloved PM is nothing but a Marxist muppet playing at
    PM while suppressing freedoms you insist on ignoring! Typical of woke wankers like you Rich!

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Jan 11 23:53:15 2023
    On 2023-01-11, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>deliberately misleading article.
    Entirely delusional response as anticipated.

    A safe bet each day.

    Adds nothing positive to the thread and I already said it was published in November - did you read that bit?

    It is 2 months old, not a great deal of time.

    If it is of importance then one needs to point out how things have changed, what is the additional evidence/facts/situation which needs to be taken into consideration.

    Taking the " vaccines are safe and effective" stance. Might have passed with
    a push at the start. Now, now not so much.


    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    As usual, Rich completely fails to address the content - What a loser.


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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 11 23:22:44 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.

    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous? I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .
    Still refusing to address the content - you really are a loser.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 12 00:03:37 2023
    On 2023-01-11, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:48:06 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>>deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .

    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.

    Do you think it is relevant that it appears to be deliberately
    anonymous?

    I did suggest the author may not have been familiar with
    WOW - I think John Key appeared at one of those shows a long time ago
    . . .

    Anyone else seeing what is happening here? The article gave an summary of
    the Labour Governmets actions over the last 5 years, now we are at WOW
    awards and past PM attendence at them.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 11 23:21:47 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >deliberately misleading article.
    Entirely delusional response as anticipated.
    Adds nothing positive to the thread and I already said it was published in November - did you read that bit?

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    As usual, Rich completely fails to address the content - What a loser.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Jan 11 23:42:39 2023
    On 2023-01-11, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    This is another one of the summary of the situation articles which are
    acurate. Certain only just over the top in place or two.

    It is going to end in tears.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JohnO on Thu Jan 12 00:16:23 2023
    On 2023-01-11, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 09:48:08 UTC+13, Crash wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:41:44 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little
    over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK
    Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in
    the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime
    Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly
    deliberately misleading article.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right
    wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our
    National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    So Rich you have no actual comment on the article other than to
    question its provenance? How unusual of you.


    --
    Crash McBash

    I thought the comments section made good reading too.

    How many of the names of the commentors are the persons real names?

    A great quote from those comments


    G.H. Breedlove 2 months ago

    Sadly, in the West if you vote out a Marxist Regime their replacements
    are still dedicated to flushing the country down the toilet,
    only with less haste.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Jan 11 17:35:02 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 12:53:17 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:
    On 2023-01-11, Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:03:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little >>>over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

    Not many Australians - despite the name, this is not like the UK >>Spectator - it is a right wing disinformation site; and the article
    you refer to was probably written by someone from New Zealand;
    possibly from thebfd or similar site here. I note it is 2 months old,
    but has attracted few comments. One calls into question the costume in >>the photograph - we know that this was taken at a "World of Wearable
    Art" show last year - lending support to a show that assists New
    Zealand exports and reputation for innovation - I think other Prime >>Ministers have appeared in the past. That indicates it as a typicallly >>deliberately misleading article.
    Entirely delusional response as anticipated.
    A safe bet each day.
    Adds nothing positive to the thread and I already said it was published in November - did you read that bit?
    It is 2 months old, not a great deal of time.

    If it is of importance then one needs to point out how things have changed, what is the additional evidence/facts/situation which needs to be taken into consideration.

    Taking the " vaccines are safe and effective" stance. Might have passed with a push at the start. Now, now not so much.

    Amusing that the right in Australia are having a stab at the now right >>wing opposition; as here, nothing matters expcet power to many of our >>National'' their Liberal party supporters; they can get a bit feral
    about party leaders that lose . . .
    As usual, Rich completely fails to address the content - What a loser.

    But things have changed Gordon. They're getting worse!

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  • From morrisseybreen@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 13 05:43:12 2023
    You've chosen another extreme right publication to bolster your prejudiced views, Tony. Surely you are aware that the the trotSpace has zero credbility. It's on a par with the gouty rambling of poor old Karl Du Fenser.

    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 8:04:02 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to morriss...@gmail.com on Fri Jan 13 11:45:39 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:43:13 AM UTC+13, morriss...@gmail.com wrote:
    You've chosen another extreme right publication to bolster your prejudiced views, Tony. Surely you are aware that the the trotSpace has zero credbility. It's on a par with the gouty rambling of poor old Karl Du Fenser.
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 8:04:02 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/
    Yes this is from last November and in some respects may be a little over-the-top but more and more it appears to be on the button.
    Worth reposting I think.
    But far more truthful than your periodic mutters Breen...

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