Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another of his constant lies!
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers >>>losing their jobs because of the mandates!Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another >>of his constant lies!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you! >>
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich will tell any lie to defend the useless totalitarian government he blindly follows Tony. I don't expect anything else from the arsehole an he never disappoints me...
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another of his constant lies!I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -Twist and squirm as much as you like Rich. Your lies in support of the useless, totalitarian government get more desperate the closer it gets to when NZ gets the opportunity to toss them like a used face mask!
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:27:54 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:fired, or the same as being unable to work because the Medical Council
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another of his constant lies!
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Because of Jacinda Arderns fucking illegal mandates you fucking cretin! Resignations (and deaths and retirements) are not the same as being
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
Why would they have resigned Rich? even then NZ was suffering a cronic nursing shortage that your totalitarian government was denying!
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
How many Rich? got a number or do we as usual have to take your lying word for it?
Twist and squirm as much as you like Rich. Your lies in support of the useless, totalitarian government get more desperate the closer it gets to when NZ gets the opportunity to toss them like a used face mask!
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers >>>>losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyWow are you really that thick. They were given no choice, the government told the employers to fire them if they did not get vaccinated.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses.
It isI have it under control - you are a serial liar and defamer. Q.E.D
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 20:01:23 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:27:54 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another of his constant lies!
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Because of Jacinda Arderns fucking illegal mandates you fucking cretin! Resignations (and deaths and retirements) are not the same as beingfired, or the same as being unable to work because the Medical Council
has removed certification.
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
Why would they have resigned Rich? even then NZ was suffering a cronic nursing shortage that your totalitarian government was denying!
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
How many Rich? got a number or do we as usual have to take your lying word for it?
Twist and squirm as much as you like Rich. Your lies in support of the useless, totalitarian government get more desperate the closer it gets to when NZ gets the opportunity to toss them like a used face mask!
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyMore shit as usual from the ng fake newsman! The mandates were the problem Rich and it was brought on by your totalitarian government and you fucking now it!
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyWow are you really that thick. They were given no choice, the government told >the employers to fire them if they did not get vaccinated.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses.
How about you start writing fairy tales - they would be better than this pack >of your lies.I am sorry you are so deluded, Tony.
It isI have it under control - you are a serial liar and defamer. Q.E.D
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 04:25:10 -0000 (UTC), TonyThat is wrong and you know it is wrong.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyWow are you really that thick. They were given no choice, the government told >>the employers to fire them if they did not get vaccinated.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>>>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses.
I know one nurse that did resign - he was not fired; he just had
normal reasons for resigning; in fact he was moving to another job.
There is a difference, and the majority of those leaving are likely to
have resigned.
Ah, but you see I am not deluded. I tell the truth, you lie and in this thread you have made an absolute fool of yourself. Changing history seems to be a fondness of left wing fools like you.How about you start writing fairy tales - they would be better than this pack >>of your lies.I am sorry you are so deluded, Tony.
It isI have it under control - you are a serial liar and defamer. Q.E.D
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>slow to grasp reality.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
<bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers >>>>losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
On 2023-01-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:So true Gordon. But Rich cannot stay on topic if it involves being open-minded - an impossibility for him.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >> biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
It would be helpful if Rich could reply on the topic without wander about >like a mentally ill person. As it is we can not what Rich's point actually >is. The level of annoyment increases and all to often the quality of the >debate only gets lower.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes
did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways.It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny >>>>biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were
vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe,
balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people
were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
Something you are famous for...I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways.It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone
else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people
were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Don't you mean infamous mate ;)Something you are famous for...I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways.It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone
else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:22:17 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for >> doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote:
Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >> >>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >> >>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John
Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned,
or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been
fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >> >>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck
off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >> >>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >> >>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were
vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe,
balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people
were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their >> jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
What's even worse they're still not able to work when even Dr. DoLittle has finally admitted Shortland Street doesn't help get people into nursing to alleviate the shortage of nurses!
Don't you mean infamous mate ;)Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways.It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone
else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for >doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from >>>>>>>>you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it -
and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline
- I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as
slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people
were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their >jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways.It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone
else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to >>wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that >>reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme >>for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their
jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someoneelse tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 22:19:54 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:22:17 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >> >unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John BowesThe number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your tiny
<bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >> >>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health
workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet
another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >> >>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >> >>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >> >>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >> >>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline -
actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >> >>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >> >>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >> >>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes
did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were
vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe,
balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >> >were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their
jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
What's even worse they're still not able to work when even Dr. DoLittle has finally admitted Shortland Street doesn't help get people into nursing to alleviate the shortage of nurses!That must have disappointed you, John - had you suggested using
shortland Street as a recruitment tool? Do you have a url to that
admission? I do not know a Dr. Dolittle in New Zealand . . .
Don't you mean infamous mate ;)Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >> >It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someoneelse tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not say that. I was obviously saying (at least to somebody who understands English) that the majority of the people who lost their jobs did so because of the government mandates.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for >>doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your >>>>>>tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie >>>>>>>>>from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>>>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>>>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that
reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then
there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health
Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme
for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; ,
and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for
sensitive health provider situations.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their >>jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority
of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someoneelse tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 19:01:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyI corrected you, not me, you imbecile.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Thank you for correcting your mis-statement. You still give an
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not say that. I was obviously saying (at least to somebody who >>understands English) that the majority of the people who lost their jobs did >>so
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful >>>>for
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>>>>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to >>>>>wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>>>>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that >>>>>reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>>>>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>>>>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then >>>>>there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health >>>>>Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme >>>>>for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; , >>>>>and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been >>>>>sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for >>>>>sensitive health provider situations.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie >>>>>>>>>>>from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives." >>>>>>>>>
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . . >>>>>>>>The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your >>>>>>>>tiny
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>>>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>>>>>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>>>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>>>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>>>>>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing >>>>their
jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority
of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
because of the government mandates.
There you are Dickbot, I fixed your comprehension failure but only for now I >>suspect.
unsupported opinion however - but while that is perhaps to be expected
in a post from you, it is reasonable to seek clarification when you
make such a startling and untrue statement.
Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>>>>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone >>>>>else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 19:01:51 -0000 (UTC), TonyI wish you'd practice what you preach Rich. I'm still waiting for your evidence supporting your false opinion that the mandates didn't cost people their jobs and destroy family's. All we've had is you repeating your own lying opinion! How about something
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Thank you for correcting your mis-statement. You still give an
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not say that. I was obviously saying (at least to somebody who >understands English) that the majority of the people who lost their jobs did so
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>>>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to >>>>wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>>>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that >>>>reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>>>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>>>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then >>>>there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health >>>>Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme >>>>for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; , >>>>and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been >>>>sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for >>>>sensitive health provider situations.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health
workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie >>>>>>>>>>from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet
another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives." >>>>>>>>
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . . >>>>>>>The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes
did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their
jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority >>of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
because of the government mandates.
There you are Dickbot, I fixed your comprehension failure but only for now I
suspect.
unsupported opinion however - but while that is perhaps to be expected
in a post from you, it is reasonable to seek clarification when you
make such a startling and untrue statement.
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>>>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone >>>>else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . . >>>Something you are famous for...
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Rich is a perfect example of an ignorant and fucking useless cockalorum Tony. Reason and facts don't work for his type. He's just a bully enjoying his bullying...
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 19:01:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
I corrected you, not me, you imbecile.Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:Thank you for correcting your mis-statement. You still give an
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not say that. I was obviously saying (at least to somebody who >>understands English) that the majority of the people who lost their jobs did
<lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful >>>>for
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>>>>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to >>>>>wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>>>>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that >>>>>reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>>>>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>>>>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then >>>>>there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health >>>>>Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme >>>>>for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; , >>>>>and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been >>>>>sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for >>>>>sensitive health provider situations.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>>><bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health
workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie >>>>>>>>>>>from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet
another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives." >>>>>>>>>
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires
from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . . >>>>>>>>The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>>>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is
a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>>>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>>>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes
did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing >>>>their
jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority >>>of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
so
because of the government mandates.
There you are Dickbot, I fixed your comprehension failure but only for now I
suspect.
unsupported opinion however - but while that is perhaps to be expected
in a post from you, it is reasonable to seek clarification when you
make such a startling and untrue statement.
You post unsupported opinions every day - but apparently you believe that no-one else should.
No wonder you support marxist dictatorial behaviour and brutality.
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>>>>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone >>>>>else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . . >>>>Something you are famous for...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Thank you for correcting your mis-statement. You still give an
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:22:15 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not say that. I was obviously saying (at least to somebody who >understands English) that the majority of the people who lost their jobs did so
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Jan 2023 01:17:28 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Absolute nonsense. The facts are clear - the government made it unlawful for >>>doctors and nurses to work if they were not vaccinated.
On 2023-01-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:That is a fair question Gordon, but we are unlikely to know. Some were >>>>unable to have vaccinations for medical reasons, some were unable to >>>>wear masks for similar reasons; others had family members who were >>>>vulnerable and did not want to work with infected people for that >>>>reason. There was a lot of pressure on employers to keep staff safe, >>>>balanced against people that did not want hte precautions. Some people >>>>were wanting to move 'home' - whether in NZ or back overseas. Then >>>>there are normal retirements and people moving within the Health >>>>Service - they were recruiting actively for the vaccination programme >>>>for example. Some may well have not liked working wearing a mask; , >>>>and some may have preferred to resign than be seen to have been
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), John Bowes >>>>>>>><bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:The number struck off is not what this thread is about, except in your >>>>>>>tiny
On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:03:55 PM UTC+13, John Bowes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Just to make your day Rich, here's the proof you lied about health >>>>>>>>>>workers
losing their jobs because of the mandates!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html
Don't bother apologising Rich because that'll just be another lie >>>>>>>>>>from
you!
Interesting that Rich is lying to provide himself with an out for yet >>>>>>>>>another
of his constant lies!
I looked through your posts and you had not posted that link, John >>>>>>>>Bowes.
From the link:
"That's nearly 1500 workers who've either been stood down, resigned, >>>>>>>>or fired, including 52 doctors, 518 nurses, and 90 midwives."
Many of those would have resigned - andd in fact there may have been >>>>>>>>fewer than normal resignations, but obviously as well fewer new hires >>>>>>>>from overseas.
52 doctors clearly includes resignations as well - the number struck >>>>>>>>off by the medical council was much smaller.
So I can see why you were confused by the misleading headline - >>>>>>>>actually reading the article may have been a good idea . . .
biased mind. It is about government mandates you yorick.
Resignations are not the same as being fired, Tony. Think about it - >>>>>> and that applies to Doctors and other workers, including nurses. It is >>>>>> a typical mis-reading of an article based on a poorly worded headline >>>>>> - I do not expect understanding from John, but you are not usually as >>>>>> slow to grasp reality.
The question is WHY did all those resginations happen. As the saying goes >>>>>did the resign or where they pushed? (via a mandate).
sacked. Most of these issues disappeared last year except for >>>>sensitive health provider situations.
Simple. That resulted in the majority of those important people losing their >>>jobs and most likely resulted in patient's deaths.
Do you have any reference that confirms your assertion that a majority
of doctors and nurses losing their jobs?
because of the government mandates.
There you are Dickbot, I fixed your comprehension failure but only for now I >suspect.
Something you are famous for...
I'll be the first to agree that headlines can be read in several ways. >>>>It does often appear that one person writes an article, and someone >>>>else tries to find a headline that will attract clicks . . .
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