• Great work Little and Labour!

    From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 20:56:32 2023
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something
    positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 6 05:06:29 2023
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 21:55:41 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:36:35 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:56:32 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something
    positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    Thanks goodness Covid did not come along when a National government
    were in charge.
    Prove it you contemptible little Labour loving worm! As with everything Labour claimed they were going to fix the health system was on it's last legs and now is in even worse condition!

    From the article:
    "Pressure on the hospital continued to be exacerbated by staff
    absences due to general illness, long Covid, and the need to isolate
    or care for dependents who may need to isolate.

    The lack of staff overall is getting worse and worse Rich. Just because little Andy is in denial doesn't mean things have got any better staff wise since Winston gave Labour a shot at government!


    “Staff absence rates continuously change as people recover, or
    complete isolation, and return to work. Workforce shortages are
    another challenge, which are not isolated to our district,” Jennings said."

    Those years of underfunding of training, recruitment and capital works
    were challenging enough without Covid, but absences due to Covid are
    still affecting many businesses.

    Not to mention the stupid and illegal mandates Rich!

    You are being an idiot, John - see if you can point out anything any
    other government could have done . . .

    Labour is the fucking useless government Rich! Nothing else is of any consequence!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Fri Jan 6 18:33:41 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:56:32 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something
    positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages

    Thanks goodness Covid did not come along when a National government
    were in charge.
    From the article:
    "Pressure on the hospital continued to be exacerbated by staff
    absences due to general illness, long Covid, and the need to isolate
    or care for dependents who may need to isolate.

    Staff absence rates continuously change as people recover, or
    complete isolation, and return to work. Workforce shortages are
    another challenge, which are not isolated to our district, Jennings
    said."

    Those years of underfunding of training, recruitment and capital works
    were challenging enough without Covid, but absences due to Covid are
    still affecting many businesses.

    You are being an idiot, John - see if you can point out anything any
    other government could have done . . .

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 21:58:10 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:38:38 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.
    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    Don't talk shit Rich! You're lying and you know it. It's up to you to prove your not lying. not up to me to prove you are. So until you provide some good evidence I'll just carry on calling you a liar! What would be even more interesting is if you can
    back up your claim with some facts!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 6 05:59:52 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better >>as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try >>a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming >>everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid >>mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their
    employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government to fire them.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 21:59:57 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:38:38 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid >mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.
    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their
    employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    btw those fired were fired because Labour instigated mandates that have been declared illegal by the supreme court Rich. So stop lying to support your stupid claims!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Jan 6 18:35:43 2023
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as >the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a >do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming >everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid >mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their
    employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Thu Jan 5 22:05:29 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:59:54 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better >>as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government to
    fire them.
    Rich as usual doesn't have a clue and most likely he's most likely not got a science degree :)

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 6 18:53:12 2023
    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better >>>as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try >>>a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid >>>mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government >to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because the government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? Thanks for the link John B.

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 6 11:41:08 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:53:14 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better
    as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government >to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? Thanks for the link John B.
    Your welcome. I only did it to show up what a useless bloody human Rich is mate :)

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 09:38:01 2023
    On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 18:33:41 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:56:32 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something
    positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages

    Thanks goodness Covid did not come along when a National government
    were in charge.
    From the article:
    "Pressure on the hospital continued to be exacerbated by staff
    absences due to general illness, long Covid, and the need to isolate
    or care for dependents who may need to isolate.

    Staff absence rates continuously change as people recover, or
    complete isolation, and return to work. Workforce shortages are
    another challenge, which are not isolated to our district, Jennings
    said."

    Those years of underfunding of training, recruitment and capital works
    were challenging enough without Covid, but absences due to Covid are
    still affecting many businesses.

    You are being an idiot, John - see if you can point out anything any
    other government could have done . .

    I can help. There were 1500 medical staff stood down because of the
    Covid vaccination employment mandate from last year.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/hospitals-carrying-heavy-burden-after-nearly-1500-staff-off-the-job-after-refusing-covid-19-vaccine.html

    If your only defence is that National would have been far worse if
    they were in charge then you concede defeat in this debate because you
    cannot offer anything in defence of the Labour Government..


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 6 23:12:16 2023
    On 2023-01-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.

    Also the GP's which were not in the public health system. The GP(s) who had challanging views and who had pressure on them to follow the Government's narrative.

    The Doctor patient relationship was interrfered with if if the Doctor was
    not totally following the Governments narrative.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 6 22:59:24 2023
    On 2023-01-06, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:56:32 -0800 (PST), John Bowes
    <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a do something
    positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages

    Thanks goodness Covid did not come along when a National government
    were in charge.
    From the article:
    "Pressure on the hospital continued to be exacerbated by staff
    absences due to general illness, long Covid, and the need to isolate
    or care for dependents who may need to isolate.

    “Staff absence rates continuously change as people recover, or
    complete isolation, and return to work. Workforce shortages are
    another challenge, which are not isolated to our district,” Jennings
    said."

    Those years of underfunding of training, recruitment and capital works
    were challenging enough without Covid, but absences due to Covid are
    still affecting many businesses.

    You are being an idiot, John - see if you can point out anything any
    other government could have done . . .

    The people voted out the National Government as the health system was not performing as it should. Your pointed this out to this ng before the
    election and even after the election of 2017.

    Labour has been in power for over five years and during that time have done little to improve the heath system, dispite promising the country that it
    would do so under its hand.

    Five years, is a reasonable time to at least start the improvements. There
    is little evidence that any improvements have started, let along be
    completed.

    It is not what any other Governmet could have done, it is what the present Government could have, and should have done. Own the issue and improve it.

    Health is not a political issue, as everyone needs a good health system.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Jan 6 23:44:31 2023
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2023-01-06, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:38:38 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting
    better as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>> >worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually >>> >try a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just
    claiming
    everything's fine!


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the
    covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>> >being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.
    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their
    employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    btw those fired were fired because Labour instigated mandates that have been >>declared illegal by the supreme court Rich. So stop lying to support your >>stupid claims!

    There are two aspects/groups:

    1) The Governments mandates for the vaccince
    2) The extreme views of the few Doctors which were simply not correct. What >past a challange and a discussion. ( Lets call it false information ). In >this case the Doctors disaplinary body stepped in.

    The second group is what Rich is referring to.
    Yews and what he posted was a deliberate lie (half truth at best).
    Just about all of the people who lost their jobs did so because of government mandates.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to John Bowes on Fri Jan 6 23:24:24 2023
    On 2023-01-06, John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 6:38:38 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just claiming
    everything's fine!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.
    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their
    employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    btw those fired were fired because Labour instigated mandates that have been declared illegal by the supreme court Rich. So stop lying to support your stupid claims!

    There are two aspects/groups:

    1) The Governments mandates for the vaccince
    2) The extreme views of the few Doctors which were simply not correct. What past a challange and a discussion. ( Lets call it false information ). In
    this case the Doctors disaplinary body stepped in.

    The second group is what Rich is referring to.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 6 23:30:00 2023
    On 2023-01-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better >>>>as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government >>to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? Thanks for the link John B.

    Yes it was a great number. Made the headlines in Stuff even. There were a
    great many people who vere antix-vax or plan hesistent, some of which it
    came from the Governments stance and the use of jack boots.

    ( Remember that even an small % is a large number of the larger number. )

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 6 18:48:35 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:35:47 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better
    as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were >>>about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government
    to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? >Thanks for the link John B.
    John B did not post a link. No Doctor was fired by government, a small
    number did have their professional qualification removed by the
    Medical Counsel for unprofessional conduct. Some nurses may have lost
    jobs for similar reasons.

    Post the link, Tony . . .
    No link needed Rich. One has been provided you lying bastard!
    Your lies don't conceal your belief that only the government should be believed! Typical of lying Marxist pricks like you Rich!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Jan 7 15:32:53 2023
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting better >>>>as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were
    about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government >>to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? >Thanks for the link John B.

    John B did not post a link. No Doctor was fired by government, a small
    number did have their professional qualification removed by the
    Medical Counsel for unprofessional conduct. Some nurses may have lost
    jobs for similar reasons.

    Post the link, Tony . . .

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 6 20:05:17 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:47:57 PM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizan...@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowes...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting >>>>>better
    as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting
    worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually >>>>>try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the >>>>>covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals
    being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>>>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were >>>>about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find >>>>out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government
    to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because >>the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? >>Thanks for the link John B.

    John B did not post a link. No Doctor was fired by government, a small >number did have their professional qualification removed by the
    Medical Counsel for unprofessional conduct. Some nurses may have lost
    jobs for similar reasons.

    Post the link, Tony . . .
    John B did in fact post the link in another thread. You find it.
    The doctors and nurses, about 1500 of them were fired completely due to a government mandate. That is all I have written. I did not say the government fired them you moron. Look for the link, it was posted within the past two days. I see Crash has also posted it. Maybe if you look carefully you will find
    it twice. Wouldn't that be nice?
    Rich couldn't find his head with directions from others Tony. He's just another useless, lying woke bastard desperate to see NZ become the North Korea of the South Pacific!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Jan 7 03:47:55 2023
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 05:06:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    John Bowes <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    Five fucking years to do something and instead of the system getting >>>>>better
    as
    the Right Horrible Andrew Little claims with the changes. They're getting >>>>>worse
    and worse! Hopefully the government comes back with the will to actually >>>>>try
    a
    do something positive about our failed health system instead of just >>>>>claiming
    everything's fine!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/130918368/wellington-hospital-acute-patient-unit-closed-due-to-staff-shortages
    So John, I can't remember, do you know how many doctors and nurses the >>>>>covid
    mandates that this government implemented resulted in those professionals >>>>>being
    fired? And for absolutely no valid reason.


    those fired were because their professional organisation (not their >>>>employer) took away their qualification to work. I think there were >>>>about 5 doctors, and a small number of nurses, but if John can find
    out exactly how many that wouldbe interesting.
    You absurd idiot.
    There were several hundred and their employer was mandated by the government >>>to
    fire them.
    Sorry, I underestimated - there were about 1500 who lost their jobs because >>the
    government told their employers to fire them.
    What sort of medical condition causes your appalling memory loss Rich80105? >>Thanks for the link John B.

    John B did not post a link. No Doctor was fired by government, a small
    number did have their professional qualification removed by the
    Medical Counsel for unprofessional conduct. Some nurses may have lost
    jobs for similar reasons.

    Post the link, Tony . . .
    John B did in fact post the link in another thread. You find it.
    The doctors and nurses, about 1500 of them were fired completely due to a government mandate. That is all I have written. I did not say the government fired them you moron. Look for the link, it was posted within the past two days. I see Crash has also posted it. Maybe if you look carefully you will find it twice. Wouldn't that be nice?

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