Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be charged an
extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I
use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't accept any of my
other email domains.
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a
few accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I
ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in
2018 I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer
email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but
would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might
as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I use
through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the
server won't accept any of my other email domains. I have several
Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving free
'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those,
they've been devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no
difficulty. And, like you, my Orcon addresses were acquired in the
early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from'
those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email
address, but I do use it quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change
ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might
suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient
for me. What do you think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well
they terminated that service without a "by your leave". They gave me
no notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web
servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a
few accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I
ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in
2018 I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer
email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might
as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I use
through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the
server won't accept any of my other email domains. I have several
Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving free
'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those,
they've been devolved into webmail only.
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from'
those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
On 2021-07-27 18:43:03 +0000, malone said:
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a
few accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I
ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in
2018 I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer
email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but
would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy
customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I
might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I
use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but
the server won't accept any of my other email domains. I have
several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving
free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with
those, they've been devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no
difficulty. And, like you, my Orcon addresses were acquired in the
early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send
'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email
address, but I do use it quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change
ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might
suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty
inconvenient for me. What do you think? When Orcon provided free web
sites as well they terminated that service without a "by your
leave". They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost
everything on Orcon's web servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
I wouldn't get too attached to those. Vodafone had free email, then
they decided they couldn't be bothered so changed it to a simple
forwarding service (while still charging the same), then decided they couldn't be bothered with that either and just ditched email
completely (while again still charging the same). X-(
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few
accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I ended up
using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018
I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer email with
their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but would continue to
maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might
as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I use through
Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't
accept any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email
addresses from way back when they were giving free 'lifetime' email
addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been devolved
into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no
difficulty. And, like you, my Orcon addresses were acquired in the
early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from'
those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email
address, but I do use it quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change
ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might suddenly
terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me.
What do you think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well they
terminated that service without a "by your leave". They gave me no
notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web
servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
On 28-Jul-2021 8:26 am, Your Name wrote:
On 2021-07-27 18:43:03 +0000, malone said:
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few >>>>> accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I ended up >>>>> using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 >>>>> I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer email with >>>>> their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but would continue to >>>>> maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might >>>>> as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I use through >>>>> Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't >>>>> accept any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email
addresses from way back when they were giving free 'lifetime' email
addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been devolved >>>>> into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no
difficulty. And, like you, my Orcon addresses were acquired in the
early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' >>>>> those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email
address, but I do use it quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change
ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might suddenly >>>> terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me.
What do you think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well they
terminated that service without a "by your leave". They gave me no
notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web
servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
I wouldn't get too attached to those. Vodafone had free email, then
they decided they couldn't be bothered so changed it to a simple
forwarding service (while still charging the same), then decided they
couldn't be bothered with that either and just ditched email completely
(while again still charging the same). X-(
Yes. Vodafone's behaviour was extraordinarily arrogant. But, to give
them some credit, they did give us all due notification about what they
were going to do.
In Orcon's case they just chopped the web hosting service without any warning. Presumably their view was that because it was "free" they
didn't need to let us know beforehand. My concern is that with that
sort of culture at Orcon they may very well just abruptly stop the
"free" email.
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to set
the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with them as an
ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail)
but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be charged an
extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I
use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't accept any of my
other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving free
'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been devolved into
webmail only. I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If
I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Does not one need the ISP to have the STMP server as otherwise the mail does not get sent. Anti spam measure.
On 2021-07-27, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to set
the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with them as an
ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail)
but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers. >>
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be charged an
extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I
use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't accept any of my
other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving free
'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been devolved into
webmail only. I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If
I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Well this is not sounding good as I am with Voyager ex Actrix.
Does not one need the ISP to have the STMP server as otherwise the mail does not get sent. Anti spam measure.
So I have a separate hosted e-mail account. The mail comes in via it and goes out via the STMP server at Voyager. This has been working well for several/many years.
There are mail only hosting plans avaliable but these need a domain name which pushes the cost up. Webhostingnz has domains at $20/year and mail at $2/mth ($24/yr) so total is $44/year. Less than the $60, but not a great deal. GST incl in the above prices.
Openhost.co.nz also offers e-mail only. Their prices are higher than webhostingnz. $24/year + GST and $40+GST for the domain name for 1 year. Drops to $159.80 +GST for 10 years.
Both offer STMP
https://webhostingnz.com/services/email-hosting/
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I
still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to
set the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of
email accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with them
as an ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently everyone uses
gmail) but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be charged
an extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account
that I use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't accept
any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were
giving free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been
devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no difficulty. And, like you, my
Orcon addresses were acquired in the early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options.
If I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email address, but I do use it
quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner
might suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me. What do you
think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well they terminated that service without a "by your
leave". They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
On 2021-07-27 18:43:03 +0000, malone said:
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I
still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to
set the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of
email accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with
them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently everyone
uses gmail) but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be
charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail
account that I use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server
won't accept any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back
when they were giving free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those,
they've been devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no difficulty. And, like you, my
Orcon addresses were acquired in the early days when they were all "free" >>>
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check
options. If I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email address, but I do use it
quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner
might suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me. What do you
think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well they terminated that service without a "by
your leave". They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web
servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
I wouldn't get too attached to those. Vodafone had free email, then they decided they couldn't be
bothered so changed it to a simple forwarding service (while still charging the same), then decided
they couldn't be bothered with that either and just ditched email completely (while again still
charging the same). X-(
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I
still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to set
the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with them as an
ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail)
but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers. >>
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be charged
an extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account
that I use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server won't accept
any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were
giving free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those, they've been
devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no difficulty. And, like you, my
Orcon addresses were acquired in the early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options.
If I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email address, but I do use it quite
a lot. As Orcon appears to change ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might
suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me. What do you think?
When Orcon provided free web sites as well they terminated that service without a "by your leave".
They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's web servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
On 2021-07-28, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
[snip]
Does not one need the ISP to have the STMP server as otherwise the mail does >> not get sent. Anti spam measure.
Just done a test post from my mail hosting account and it worked.
Thus no need to use the Voyager one which is good.
On 27/07/2021 10:30 pm, Ralph Fox wrote:
<nothing showing up for me>
I don't know if it's at our end or mine, I've seen this occasionally in other groups.
On 28/07/2021 6:43 am, malone wrote:
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a
few accounts that were originally intended to be disposable but I
ended up using some for registrations etc. that I still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the
package and I was able to set the default outgoing server to
SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of email
accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in
2018 I stayed with them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer
email with their service (as apparently everyone uses gmail) but
would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy
customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix
email server I'll be charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I
might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail account that I
use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but
the server won't accept any of my other email domains. I have
several Orcon email addresses from way back when they were giving
free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with
those, they've been devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no
difficulty. And, like you, my Orcon addresses were acquired in the
early days when they were all "free"
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send
'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other
than the SMTP server) So I figure if Voyager are going to charge me
another $60 a year for access to it I'll check options. If I ever
change providors I'll need to find another anyway.
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email
address, but I do use it quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change
ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new owner might
suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty
inconvenient for me. What do you think? When Orcon provided free web
sites as well they terminated that service without a "by your
leave". They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost
everything on Orcon's web servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
Noted, thanks. Is it accessed via password? I have different passwords
for my different Orcon email accounts so that could be why I used the
Actrix service. I'll try some config changes tomorrow (probably). Then
again, as you say, how reliable is the free Orcon thing going to be in
the future? Maybe I should be looking for a more permanent solution.
On 29-Jul-2021 9:44 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 28/07/2021 6:43 am, malone wrote:
On 28-Jul-2021 6:40 am, malone wrote:
On 27-Jul-2021 9:42 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
Hi to those still lingering...
I use Thunderbird for email and over the years have accrued quite a few accounts that were
originally intended to be disposable but I ended up using some for registrations etc. that I
still use.
When I was with Actrix (ISP) they had a free email address with the package and I was able to
set the default outgoing server to SMTP.actrix with password authentication. My multitude of
email accounts all use this no problem. When Voyager took over Actrix in 2018 I stayed with
them as an ISP but they said they didn't offer email with their service (as apparently
everyone uses gmail) but would continue to maintain the actrix email server for legacy customers.
Now I'm being informed that if I want to continue to use the Actrix email server I'll be
charged an extra $5 / month so I thought I might as well explore alternatives. I have a gmail
account that I use through Tbird and it can use the gmail smtp for outgoing but the server
won't accept any of my other email domains. I have several Orcon email addresses from way back
when they were giving free 'lifetime' email addresses but there's no smtp service with those,
they've been devolved into webmail only.
Are you sure?
I' m using mail.orcon.nz port 25 for my Orcon POP service with no difficulty. And, like you, my
Orcon addresses were acquired in the early days when they were all "free" >>>>
I can receive mail with Tbird but need an smtp service to send 'from' those addresses.
I never did use the 'free' Actrix email account (for anything other than the SMTP server) So I
figure if Voyager are going to charge me another $60 a year for access to it I'll check
options. If I ever change providors I'll need to find another anyway. >>>>>
TIA for any help or advice.
Cheers,
And, on a separate issue, my Orcon address is now not my main email address, but I do use it
quite a lot. As Orcon appears to change ownership every few months, I'm worried that a new
owner might suddenly terminate that "free" service? That'll be pretty inconvenient for me. What
do you think? When Orcon provided free web sites as well they terminated that service without a
"by your leave". They gave me no notification at all and I suddenly lost everything on Orcon's
web servers.
Should I make preparations for that sort of thing happening with mail?
Sorry - correction. The Orcon SMTP server is mail.orcon.net.nz
Noted, thanks. Is it accessed via password? I have different passwords for my different Orcon
email accounts so that could be why I used the Actrix service. I'll try some config changes
tomorrow (probably). Then again, as you say, how reliable is the free Orcon thing going to be in
the future? Maybe I should be looking for a more permanent solution.
Yes. Same password as the POP mail server.
The general view seems to be that I shouldn't rely on the stability of the "free" Orcon mail
service in the future. I do have my own domain, but I tend to use Orcon when I think the address
will become available to spammers. As a sort of filter. But I'll now begin the gradual process of
changing all my Orcon addresses.
Another angle. Might be of some use.
Viladi, the browser has a mail client built in.
https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-4-0/#Vivaldi_Mail_Beta
tutanota.com is also a mailbased company. Free for personal use and limited space. (1GB) Pay for more space or accounts.
https://tutanota.com/pricing
https://tutanota.com
Not sure where the messages reside on this one. Nevertheless they are into encryption full time.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 22:04:57 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:
Telecom did a similar thing years back, swapped email users over to Hotmail (or was it Yahoo!?) and
then they went tits-up.
Yahoo. Then they brought their email back to NZ. Telecom/Spark still provides email. I pay $5.95/month for an xtra.co.nz email account.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 22:02:18 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 27/07/2021 10:30 pm, Ralph Fox wrote:
<nothing showing up for me>
I don't know if it's at our end or mine, I've seen this occasionally in other groups.
You can still read my post on Narkive or Google groups.
NK: <https://nz.comp.narkive.com/xgJDuseE/cheap-good-smtp-server-service#post2>
GG: <https://groups.google.com/g/nz.comp/c/GKPMMFiR5yk/m/ijcbFC8lAwAJ>
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