• So I want to invest a few hundred in bitcoin...

    From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 02:08:37 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a 'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet - according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing with a legitimate outfit.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 01:43:07 2018
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Geoff on Mon Feb 19 14:04:58 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,


    "A few hundred in Bitcoin" ? You'll need over NZ$14,000 to buy just
    one Bitcoin.

    You can buy less than a single bitcoin you know. I was hoping for informed replies.

    And if you had bought one a month or so ago, you would have paid
    nearly $30K and by now halved your money.

    I'd think twice ....

    I've already thought 100 times. I had a grand I was going to put into them
    five or six years ago but was advised against it...
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 13:18:33 2018
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.

    Cheers,


    "A few hundred in Bitcoin" ? You'll need over NZ$14,000 to buy just one Bitcoin.

    And if you had bought one a month or so ago, you would have paid nearly
    $30K and by now halved your money.

    I'd think twice ....

    geoff

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 16:33:05 2018
    On 19/02/2018 2:04 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,


    "A few hundred in Bitcoin" ? You'll need over NZ$14,000 to buy just
    one Bitcoin.

    You can buy less than a single bitcoin you know. I was hoping for informed replies.

    What would you prefer to be informed of ? OK buy 1.4 Bitcents then.
    Good luck.


    And if you had bought one a month or so ago, you would have paid
    nearly $30K and by now halved your money.

    I'd think twice ....

    I've already thought 100 times. I had a grand I was going to put into them five or six years ago but was advised against it...


    Always best to buy when things are on the up, rather than when they
    start to look decidedly dodgy.

    geoff

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 16:18:45 2018
    On 19/02/18 14:04, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,


    "A few hundred in Bitcoin" ? You'll need over NZ$14,000 to buy just
    one Bitcoin.
    You can buy less than a single bitcoin you know. I was hoping for informed replies.

    The earliest and most discussed e-currency is called Bitcoin but bitcoin
    can refer to any of many crptocurrencies.

    coinmarketcap.com lists 1545 Cryptocurrencies over 8944 markets and
    accepts credit cards. Everything you want to know is probably there.

    And if you had bought one a month or so ago, you would have paid
    nearly $30K and by now halved your money.

    I'd think twice ....

    I've already thought 100 times. I had a grand I was going to put into them five or six years ago but was advised against it...


    INVEST means to buy an asset that will produce a financial return by
    making goods or services. Even if it can never be sold, it will be worth
    owning from a financial perspective.
    Speculation is buying something that produces nothing that you think you
    can sell at a higher price some time in the future.

    Blockchain technology is free so my advice, given your interest in
    computing, is to create your own ByteCoin. Give it a unique kiwi
    flavour, (KiwiByteCoin?), so that the Mongrel Mob, Biker Gangs and their
    ilk will use it rather than the bank or an overseas bitcoin creator.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Geoff on Mon Feb 19 04:55:09 2018
    On 2018-02-19, Geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 2:04 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,


    Always best to buy when things are on the up, rather than when they
    start to look decidedly dodgy.

    Now, the price of Bitcoin is volatile. I see this because people see it as
    an investment rather than a currency. As long as people buy it as an
    investment it is not not going to be used as a currency and then everyone thinks of it as an investment, not currency, which it is.

    The real revolution will come when people understand that bitcoin is a
    currency and use it as such.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Mon Feb 19 04:59:21 2018
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a 'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet - according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem. Bitcoin
    is so new that understanding by the masses is not high enough to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Geoff on Mon Feb 19 20:54:43 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 2:04 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,


    "A few hundred in Bitcoin" ? You'll need over NZ$14,000 to buy just
    one Bitcoin.

    You can buy less than a single bitcoin you know. I was hoping for
    informed replies.

    What would you prefer to be informed of ? OK buy 1.4 Bitcents then.

    You can buy as much or as little as you want.

    I was hoping that someone who reads / posts here already had some bitcoin
    and could tell me the name / URL of a legitimate site / dealer.

    Good luck.


    Thank you - and to you too.

    And if you had bought one a month or so ago, you would have paid
    nearly $30K and by now halved your money.

    I'd think twice ....

    I've already thought 100 times. I had a grand I was going to put
    into them five or six years ago but was advised against it...


    Always best to buy when things are on the up, rather than when they
    start to look decidedly dodgy.

    geoff

    Bitcoin has been so volatile lately that it's possible to make make *or*
    lose money by the day. That said it's on an upward trend right now;

    https://charts.bitcoin.com/chart/price
    https://www.dailyfx.com/bitcoin

    I didn't realise it was so difficult to find a legit site open to people
    from NZ. After spending quite some time on teh webz I thought I might have
    more luck here.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Gordon on Mon Feb 19 21:07:18 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-19, Geoff <geoff@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 2:04 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 1:43 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know'
    than advertising. Cheers,


    Always best to buy when things are on the up, rather than when they
    start to look decidedly dodgy.

    Now, the price of Bitcoin is volatile. I see this because people see
    it as an investment rather than a currency. As long as people buy it
    as an investment it is not not going to be used as a currency and
    then everyone thinks of it as an investment, not currency, which it
    is.

    The real revolution will come when people understand that bitcoin is a currency and use it as such.

    I'd like to be able to use it as a currency. If I can also get it cheaper by buying now rather than later then all the better.

    I might have to resort to using a broker that Google serves up to me when I search. I didn't want to do that but how else do I find a broker / wallet
    that is good to go in NZ? The email addy I'm posting from is legit if anyone from this group would rather contact me privately.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Gordon on Mon Feb 19 20:59:14 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high enough
    to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd rather not have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped to invest. I think there will be a correction after the recent drop. In the few days I've spent trying to find out how to buy some bitcoin the price has gone up 15%.

    Where have all the rest of the savvy posters gone? This group used to be an excellent source of accurate informatuon.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 08:17:04 2018
    On 19/02/2018 8:59 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high enough
    to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd rather not have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped to invest. I think there will be a correction after the recent drop. In the few days I've spent trying to find out how to buy some bitcoin the price has gone up 15%.

    Where have all the rest of the savvy posters gone? This group used to be an excellent source of accurate informatuon.



    Still is. Some choose to ignore it, lose their sense of humour, and
    dream unrealistic dreams when their efforts could be focused on better
    things rather than throwing away their limited resources. Or maybe not....

    geoff

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet geoff on Tue Feb 20 12:52:29 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 8:59 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know'
    than advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high
    enough to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd
    rather not have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped
    to invest. I think there will be a correction after the recent drop.
    In the few days I've spent trying to find out how to buy some
    bitcoin the price has gone up 15%. Where have all the rest of the savvy
    posters gone? This group used
    to be an excellent source of accurate informatuon.



    Still is. Some choose to ignore it, lose their sense of humour, and
    dream unrealistic dreams when their efforts could be focused on better
    things rather than throwing away their limited resources. Or maybe
    not....
    geoff

    Maybe not indeed. My few hundred is *very* small beans compared with what
    some have and are investing: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/13/how-iceland-became-the-bitcoin-miners-paradise
    A (very) recent BBC programme went through warehouses in Iceland filled with thousands upon thousands of rack mounted computers all 'mining' bitcoin. Millions of dollars worth which use tens of thousands of dollars worth of electricity every month and nobody's switching them off because of a slight drop in price.

    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 13:18:47 2018
    On 20/02/2018 12:52 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 19/02/2018 8:59 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know'
    than advertising.
    Cheers,
    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high
    enough to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.
    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd
    rather not have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped
    to invest. I think there will be a correction after the recent drop.
    In the few days I've spent trying to find out how to buy some
    bitcoin the price has gone up 15%. Where have all the rest of the savvy
    posters gone? This group used
    to be an excellent source of accurate informatuon.


    Still is. Some choose to ignore it, lose their sense of humour, and
    dream unrealistic dreams when their efforts could be focused on better
    things rather than throwing away their limited resources. Or maybe
    not....
    geoff
    Maybe not indeed. My few hundred is *very* small beans compared with what some have and are investing: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/13/how-iceland-became-the-bitcoin-miners-paradise
    A (very) recent BBC programme went through warehouses in Iceland filled with thousands upon thousands of rack mounted computers all 'mining' bitcoin. Millions of dollars worth which use tens of thousands of dollars worth of electricity every month and nobody's switching them off because of a slight drop in price.

    Bet who owns them sleeps well at night !

    geoff

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Tue Feb 20 15:17:21 2018
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:59:14 +1300, "~misfit~"
    <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high enough
    to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd rather not >have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped to invest. I think >there will be a correction after the recent drop. In the few days I've spent >trying to find out how to buy some bitcoin the price has gone up 15%.

    Where have all the rest of the savvy posters gone? This group used to be an >excellent source of accurate informatuon.

    The posters here are typically techs. Investing in bitcoin (or
    anything of a similar ilk) is primarily an *investment* decision.

    From what I have been able to ascertain bitcoin is a tradable entity -
    you buy and sell it - and although it is underpinned by technology,
    its core is a commodity that is bought, exchanged or sold.

    Uber is similar - a taxi or ride-share service underpinned by
    technology (a proprietary phone app) but its still a taxi or
    ride-share service.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Crash on Tue Feb 20 15:24:51 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Crash wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:59:14 +1300, "~misfit~"
    <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-02-18, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know'
    than advertising.
    Cheers,

    I read a few articles and saw Coinbase recommended so set up a
    'wallet' with them only to find that they don't trade in NZ (yet -
    according to them).

    My luck's not been great of late so I'd like to be sure I'm dealing
    with a legitimate outfit.

    You might be waiting awhile, misfit as this is part of the problem.
    Bitcoin is so new that understanding by the masses is not high
    enough to shut of fraudsters. Or the get rich fast crowd.

    Thanks for the reply Gordon. I have some money right now that I'd
    rather not have sitting around and am due a change of luck so hoped
    to invest. I think there will be a correction after the recent drop.
    In the few days I've spent trying to find out how to buy some
    bitcoin the price has gone up 15%.

    Where have all the rest of the savvy posters gone? This group used
    to be an excellent source of accurate informatuon.

    The posters here are typically techs. Investing in bitcoin (or
    anything of a similar ilk) is primarily an *investment* decision.

    Primarilly yes. However being tech savvy would give you a big advantage when trying to sort the legit outfits fron the scammers. Especially here in NZ.
    It's easy in most larger countries.

    From what I have been able to ascertain bitcoin is a tradable entity -
    you buy and sell it - and although it is underpinned by technology,
    its core is a commodity that is bought, exchanged or sold.

    Uber is similar - a taxi or ride-share service underpinned by
    technology (a proprietary phone app) but its still a taxi or
    ride-share service.

    Yep. I was just hoping that, with the tech component, at least one poster
    here may have bought bitcoins and could advise me. (I remember staring a discussion about bitcoins and the blockchain here quite a while back when I
    was considering investing and there were quite a few replies... If I'd spent $100 and bought 20 bitcoins back then when they were $5 each I might own my
    own home now.)

    Good to 'see' you, I hope that you're well. :)
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to greybeard on Wed Feb 21 10:05:43 2018
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.

    Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful information.

    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113


    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

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  • From greybeard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 09:33:38 2018
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.

    Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful information.

    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113


    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet greybear on Wed Feb 21 12:56:49 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful information.

    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113 >>

    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account. However
    I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin. I'm looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's taking so long. I had a hunch
    ans since I started this thread bitcoin has gone up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    (Go here and click "1W' scale; https://www.coinbase.com/charts?locale=en )

    I don't believe it's going to rocket up but was quite sure there would be a correction upwards this week and, as my long term plans include getting some anyway wanted to get in before this. That said I'm sure it's still going up
    for a wee while yet...

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 13:43:02 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful
    information.
    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113 >>>

    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account.
    However I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin. I'm
    looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's taking so
    long. I had a hunch ans since I started this thread bitcoin has gone
    up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    (Go here and click "1W' scale;
    https://www.coinbase.com/charts?locale=en )
    I don't believe it's going to rocket up but was quite sure there
    would be a correction upwards this week and, as my long term plans
    include getting some anyway wanted to get in before this. That said
    I'm sure it's still going up for a wee while yet...

    Cheers,

    Verification at NZBCX requires there to be a camera attched to the machine you're using. I don't have one on either my desktop or laptop and when I
    tried from my phone it didn't work, seems the browser doesn't have access to the camera and couldn't work out how to fix that - for now.

    I see bitcoin's trending downwards a little today.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 14:34:06 2018
    On 21/02/2018 12:56 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful information.

    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113 >>>

    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account. However
    I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin. I'm looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's taking so long. I had a hunch ans since I started this thread bitcoin has gone up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    How much Bitcoin is the 'minimum purchase' ?

    geoff

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 15:46:41 2018
    On 2018-02-18 12:43:07 +0000, ~misfit~ said:

    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than advertising.

    Cheers,

    If you've got money to waste, then I got a snow skiing store in South
    Florida and a scuba diving store in Tibet that you can "invest" in. ;-)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet geoff on Thu Feb 22 17:30:15 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 21/02/2018 12:56 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful
    information.
    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113


    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account.
    However I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin.
    I'm looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's taking
    so long. I had a hunch ans since I started this thread bitcoin has
    gone up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    How much Bitcoin is the 'minimum purchase' ?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+much+Bitcoin+is+the+%27minimum+purchase%27+%3F

    Let's say $10. There's really no point investing less and , depending on the trader you go with there are likely flat fees of maybe US$5 per purchase. You'll also maybe be paying an 'overseas currency' fee whereever you're
    paying from.

    Practically I'd say $100 - I don't see the point in buying less. I'll let
    you know more when I know, I'm still working on getting a computer with a reasonable camera up and running so I can pose holding my drivers licence to verify my account (and the price has been trending down the last few days so there's no real hurry - I'd like to get it done by months end though).

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Your Nam on Thu Feb 22 17:31:38 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Your Name wrote:
    On 2018-02-18 12:43:07 +0000, ~misfit~ said:

    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.

    Cheers,

    If you've got money to waste, then I got a snow skiing store in South
    Florida and a scuba diving store in Tibet that you can "invest" in. ;-)

    If I had money to *waste* I'd be shit-faced and/or pigging out, not asking
    for advice here. ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 22:54:36 2018
    On 22/02/2018 5:30 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 21/02/2018 12:56 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots
    of paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful
    information.
    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113


    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account.
    However I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin.
    I'm looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's taking
    so long. I had a hunch ans since I started this thread bitcoin has
    gone up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    How much Bitcoin is the 'minimum purchase' ?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+much+Bitcoin+is+the+%27minimum+purchase%27+%3F

    Let's say $10. There's really no point investing less and , depending on the trader you go with there are likely flat fees of maybe US$5 per purchase. You'll also maybe be paying an 'overseas currency' fee whereever you're paying from.

    Practically I'd say $100 - I don't see the point in buying less. I'll let
    you know more when I know, I'm still working on getting a computer with a reasonable camera up and running so I can pose holding my drivers licence to verify my account (and the price has been trending down the last few days so there's no real hurry - I'd like to get it done by months end though).

    Cheers,


    Don't LMGTFY me cheeky. It you who needs to know. Apparently.

    Make a canny enough investment and maybe you'll be able to afford a
    webcam or something of sufficient resolution for your purpose. But
    that's putting the cart before the horse I guess, so you are a bit
    stuck. Try PBTech - they might have something cheap and not too nasty.

    .... if they'd accept just a digital a photo of a driving licence. I
    would think (hope !) that for most things like that you'd need something
    a little more reliable.

    geoff

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet geoff on Thu Feb 22 23:20:19 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 22/02/2018 5:30 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 21/02/2018 12:56 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet greybeard wrote:
    On 21/02/18 09:33, greybeard wrote:
    On 19/02/18 01:43, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots >>>>>>> of paid ads
    and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising. Cheers,



    I have doubts about posting this being the sensible thing to do.
    That said, you might try this forum for scraps of useful
    information.
    https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10558-Cryptocurrencies/page113


    Be careful, devils, thieves and scam artists
    dwell there....................


    OK, just found this ( while looking for something else :-)


    https://buybullion.co/

    Thanks Greybeard. I've signed up with NZBCX and oened an account.
    However I'm not 'verified' yet so am still unable to buy bitcoin.
    I'm looking into verification today but am a bit miffied it's
    taking so long. I had a hunch ans since I started this thread
    bitcoin has gone up ~20% in value - I missed that much already.

    How much Bitcoin is the 'minimum purchase' ?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+much+Bitcoin+is+the+%27minimum+purchase%27+%3F

    Let's say $10. There's really no point investing less and ,
    depending on the trader you go with there are likely flat fees of
    maybe US$5 per purchase. You'll also maybe be paying an 'overseas
    currency' fee whereever you're paying from.

    Practically I'd say $100 - I don't see the point in buying less.
    I'll let you know more when I know, I'm still working on getting a
    computer with a reasonable camera up and running so I can pose
    holding my drivers licence to verify my account (and the price has
    been trending down the last few days so there's no real hurry - I'd
    like to get it done by months end though). Cheers,


    Don't LMGTFY me cheeky. It you who needs to know. Apparently.

    Heh! I already knew - sorry.

    Make a canny enough investment and maybe you'll be able to afford a
    webcam or something of sufficient resolution for your purpose. But
    that's putting the cart before the horse I guess, so you are a bit
    stuck. Try PBTech - they might have something cheap and not too
    nasty.
    .... if they'd accept just a digital a photo of a driving licence. I
    would think (hope !) that for most things like that you'd need
    something a little more reliable.

    I fired up a laptop that I rarely use (as it eats too much dust for regular
    use in a disabled persons home) that has a webcam and took the pics. It says may take a day or two to have someone look them over then get back to me as they're very busy right now. The price is still dropping so I don't mind. ;)

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 23 08:11:09 2018
    On 22/02/2018 11:20 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    ..................
    It says
    may take a day or two to have someone look them over then get back to me as they're very busy right now.

    Cheers,
    Shaun.

    Sounds very professional !

    geoff

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet geoff on Fri Mar 16 17:14:21 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet geoff wrote:
    On 22/02/2018 5:31 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Your Name wrote:
    On 2018-02-18 12:43:07 +0000, ~misfit~ said:

    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.

    Cheers,

    If you've got money to waste, then I got a snow skiing store in
    South Florida and a scuba diving store in Tibet that you can
    "invest" in. ;-)

    If I had money to *waste* I'd be shit-faced and/or pigging out, not
    asking for advice here. ;-)



    Hey Shaun,

    Did you see this ?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/102228201/i-lost-more-money-in-bitcoin-than-most-people-will-earn-in-a-lifetime

    I do realise you are not looking at gambling a large amount, and are
    not greedy ;- )

    Thanks for that. I gave up reading Stuff quite a while back. Interesting,
    the headline is he lost 10 million but he's still up on his original investment.

    I didn't invest / buy any in the end. Too much trouble getting 'validated'
    to buy any. It's not easy in NZ. Also a couple of weeks ago I found out that I'll likely have to move from the house I've been living in for 15 years
    (and thought I would be able to live in indefinately) next year.

    I'm going to need every cent I can get for that, I've been hoarding
    'projects' for ages (I have an irrational fear of having nothing to keep me occupied) and am facing getting rid of loads of stuff as well as moving a house-load of furnishings and whiteware etc. (if I can find somewhere to
    live) when I struggle to lift 10kg and have no family to help or enough
    money to pay movers.

    So my cryptocurrency dreams are gone...

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 16 09:02:41 2018
    On 22/02/2018 5:31 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Once upon a time on usenet Your Name wrote:
    On 2018-02-18 12:43:07 +0000, ~misfit~ said:

    Can someone please advise me? A google search comes up with lots of
    paid ads and I'd rather go by referral from someone I 'know' than
    advertising.

    Cheers,

    If you've got money to waste, then I got a snow skiing store in South
    Florida and a scuba diving store in Tibet that you can "invest" in. ;-)

    If I had money to *waste* I'd be shit-faced and/or pigging out, not asking for advice here. ;-)



    Hey Shaun,

    Did you see this ?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/102228201/i-lost-more-money-in-bitcoin-than-most-people-will-earn-in-a-lifetime

    I do realise you are not looking at gambling a large amount, and are not
    greedy ;- )

    geoff

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Sun Mar 18 06:53:26 2018
    On 2018-03-16, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    Thanks for that. I gave up reading Stuff quite a while back. Interesting,
    the headline is he lost 10 million but he's still up on his original investment.

    I didn't invest / buy any in the end. Too much trouble getting 'validated'
    to buy any. It's not easy in NZ. Also a couple of weeks ago I found out that I'll likely have to move from the house I've been living in for 15 years
    (and thought I would be able to live in indefinately) next year.

    I'm going to need every cent I can get for that, I've been hoarding 'projects' for ages (I have an irrational fear of having nothing to keep me occupied) and am facing getting rid of loads of stuff as well as moving a house-load of furnishings and whiteware etc. (if I can find somewhere to live) when I struggle to lift 10kg and have no family to help or enough
    money to pay movers.

    Moving house flat does bring out the irrational fear of I can not throw out
    any stiuff, or not enough stuff. You find things you never knew you had and after it is all over you realise that there was far too much stuff and you still have more than enough.

    As a flatmate said many years ago as we loaded up the nth trailer load of rubbish. Moving is a great chance for a dung out. In those days it was not
    so much of getting rid of stuff but rather, How did we collect so much is a couple of years?

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Once upon a time on usenet Gordon on Mon Mar 19 15:16:28 2018
    Once upon a time on usenet Gordon wrote:
    On 2018-03-16, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    Thanks for that. I gave up reading Stuff quite a while back.
    Interesting, the headline is he lost 10 million but he's still up on
    his original investment.

    I didn't invest / buy any in the end. Too much trouble getting
    'validated' to buy any. It's not easy in NZ. Also a couple of weeks
    ago I found out that I'll likely have to move from the house I've
    been living in for 15 years (and thought I would be able to live in
    indefinately) next year.

    I'm going to need every cent I can get for that, I've been hoarding
    'projects' for ages (I have an irrational fear of having nothing to
    keep me occupied) and am facing getting rid of loads of stuff as
    well as moving a house-load of furnishings and whiteware etc. (if I
    can find somewhere to live) when I struggle to lift 10kg and have no
    family to help or enough money to pay movers.

    Moving house flat does bring out the irrational fear of I can not
    throw out any stiuff, or not enough stuff. You find things you never
    knew you had and after it is all over you realise that there was far
    too much stuff and you still have more than enough.

    Yep. It's made worse when your income dictates that you're highly unlikely
    to ever be able to indulge in hobby projects again so you like to save them
    for a 'rainy day'. I'm living in a run-down three bedroon house that's
    fairly full of 'stuff' - and the rents cheap due to it's condition. For the rent I can afford I'll be lucky to get a one bedroom flat. Scary shit.

    I euthanised my aged axolotl yesterday so I can get rid of my aquarium stuff now. I used to have lots of tanks and still have boxes of filters etc. but
    the axolotl was the only tank I've had running recently. The axo had already more than doubled their 'expected life span' and was almost as crippled as I am. As well as not having to keep aquarium stuff around I also won't need to
    go out and catch mightcrawlers for his food. That has become more and more difficult lately.

    As a flatmate said many years ago as we loaded up the nth trailer
    load of rubbish. Moving is a great chance for a dung out. In those
    days it was not so much of getting rid of stuff but rather, How did
    we collect so much is a couple of years?

    Heh! Know the feeling. I'll be pleased to get rid of a lot of my junk.
    However my biggest fear is the move itself. It's a massive mountain when, as
    it is I have to put off regular household chores because I'm too freakin'
    sore. Getting *anything* done that isn't absolutely necessary, no matter how small, usually results in increased pain and the need to lie down (then I
    get fidgety, I hate enforced immobility!!!).

    Oh well there's lots worse off...

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*."
    David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
    (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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