• Re: [OT] Religious celebrations create health hazards -- Thunderbird br

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 24 11:50:47 2022
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    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that have the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.

    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-deteriorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of racism? Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving fireworks, like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked to see what port I was using and it
    was 119, the port that seems to work better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes on. I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all
    require you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up
    Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried
    in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates
    on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since newsreaders are so bad at it.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Mon Oct 24 12:44:16 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article <0001HW.290716070081A1E930E51B38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that have the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.

    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-deter
    iorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of racism? Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving fireworks, like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked to see what port I was using and it was 119, the port that seems to work better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes on. I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all require you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried
    in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates
    on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since newsreaders are so bad at it.

    One of the reasons I still operate an old Mac Pro tower running OS-X
    10.8.5 is that's the last version of OS-X that MT-Newswatcher will run
    on. The next OS upgrade up from that breaks Newswatcher and the
    developer never upgraded the app to account for it. So I'm frozen in
    time on that machine.

    (I also use it for my music engraving work because Finale 2009 also will
    not work on the newer versions of the Mac OS. Unlike Newswatcher, Finale
    has been upgraded but the newest version has been completely revamped
    from the ground up. It took me years to learn to proficiently use Finale
    the old way and I don't feel like re-learning it all over again. Plus,
    they stupidly made it so the new version can't read documents created by
    the old version, which would make thousands of files I've worked on over
    the years useless.)

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Mon Oct 24 17:14:25 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 2022-10-24 2:50 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that have the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.

    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-deteriorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of racism? Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving fireworks, like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked to see what port I was using and
    it was 119, the port that seems to work better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes on. I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all
    require you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried
    in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates
    on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since newsreaders are so bad at it.

    I just set the port number to 563 and seem to be able to read new posts
    - even ones I just posted - so maybe the problem is gone again. Here's
    hoping!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Mon Oct 24 20:45:48 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? . . .

    How many people do we know that post trolls via Giganews and change the crosspost in many followups?

    Are you still not going to acknowledge who this is a sockpuppet of,
    Stasiak?

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Oct 24 15:11:05 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.290716070081A1E930E51B38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this >>> case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that have >>> the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.

    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-deter
    iorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the
    website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of racism? >>> Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving fireworks, >>> like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird
    which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked
    once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked >>> to see what port I was using and it was 119, the port that seems to work >>> better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any
    difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes on. >>> I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all require >>> you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up
    Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried
    in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates
    on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since
    newsreaders are so bad at it.

    One of the reasons I still operate an old Mac Pro tower running OS-X
    10.8.5 is that's the last version of OS-X that MT-Newswatcher will run
    on. The next OS upgrade up from that breaks Newswatcher and the
    developer never upgraded the app to account for it. So I'm frozen in
    time on that machine.

    (I also use it for my music engraving work because Finale 2009 also will
    not work on the newer versions of the Mac OS. Unlike Newswatcher, Finale
    has been upgraded but the newest version has been completely revamped
    from the ground up. It took me years to learn to proficiently use Finale
    the old way and I don't feel like re-learning it all over again. Plus,
    they stupidly made it so the new version can't read documents created by
    the old version, which would make thousands of files I've worked on over
    the years useless.)


    That mountain lion? I don’t think I ever got that far.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From A Friend@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Mon Oct 24 21:44:15 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article
    <1515211760.688341710.917716.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.290716070081A1E930E51B38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this >>> case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that
    have
    the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.


    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-det
    er
    iorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the
    website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of
    racism?
    Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving
    fireworks,
    like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird >>> which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked >>> once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked >>> to see what port I was using and it was 119, the port that seems to work >>> better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any
    difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes >>> on.
    I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all
    require
    you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up
    Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried
    in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates
    on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since
    newsreaders are so bad at it.

    One of the reasons I still operate an old Mac Pro tower running OS-X
    10.8.5 is that's the last version of OS-X that MT-Newswatcher will run
    on. The next OS upgrade up from that breaks Newswatcher and the
    developer never upgraded the app to account for it. So I'm frozen in
    time on that machine.

    (I also use it for my music engraving work because Finale 2009 also will not work on the newer versions of the Mac OS. Unlike Newswatcher, Finale has been upgraded but the newest version has been completely revamped
    from the ground up. It took me years to learn to proficiently use Finale the old way and I don't feel like re-learning it all over again. Plus,
    they stupidly made it so the new version can't read documents created by the old version, which would make thousands of files I've worked on over the years useless.)


    That mountain lion? I don¹t think I ever got that far.


    I'm still using Sierra, 10.12.6. Everything I use works with it (some
    of my stuff is really old), and I don't care about the bells and
    whistles that came along in later OSs.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to A Friend on Mon Oct 24 22:13:23 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
    In article
    <1515211760.688341710.917716.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.290716070081A1E930E51B38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:51 -0700, Rhino2 wrote
    (in article<b94e42a5-762e-4538-84c3-9daa30cf2bf3n@googlegroups.com>):

    I just saw an interesting story about how religious celebrations, in this >>>>> case the Hindu Diwali celebration, creates public health hazards that >>>>> have
    the potential to affect far more than just the celebrants.


    https://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-province-warn-of-possible-det
    er
    iorating-air-quality-due-to-diwali-fireworks-1.6121909

    It's not every day that such things are said openly. I wonder if the >>>>> website will be criticized for xenophobia or some other variant of
    racism?
    Will we see similar health advisories for other events involving
    fireworks,
    like Canada Day?

    [I'm posting via Google Groups again because the update to Thunderbird >>>>> which fixed my original problem with not seeing newer posts only worked >>>>> once; I'm back to not getting any newer posts with Thunderbird. I checked >>>>> to see what port I was using and it was 119, the port that seems to work >>>>> better, so I switched to the other port, 553, but it didn't make any >>>>> difference so I switched back to 119. The search for an actual fix goes >>>>> on.
    I tried looking for an alternate newsreader but they virtually all
    require
    you to pay a subscription fee and I am very reluctant to do that.]

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.

    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? The updates messed up
    Thunderbird on Macs too, making it unusable to read usenet, and I tried >>>> in vain to use an older version of Thunderbird. But it still can
    post, I've noticed that newsreaders ruined by either newsreader updates >>>> on Thunderbird or Mac updates on Mac can still post but can no longer
    read news. Reading news seems to be some difficult programming since
    newsreaders are so bad at it.

    One of the reasons I still operate an old Mac Pro tower running OS-X
    10.8.5 is that's the last version of OS-X that MT-Newswatcher will run
    on. The next OS upgrade up from that breaks Newswatcher and the
    developer never upgraded the app to account for it. So I'm frozen in
    time on that machine.

    (I also use it for my music engraving work because Finale 2009 also will >>> not work on the newer versions of the Mac OS. Unlike Newswatcher, Finale >>> has been upgraded but the newest version has been completely revamped
    from the ground up. It took me years to learn to proficiently use Finale >>> the old way and I don't feel like re-learning it all over again. Plus,
    they stupidly made it so the new version can't read documents created by >>> the old version, which would make thousands of files I've worked on over >>> the years useless.)


    That mountain lion? I don¹t think I ever got that far.


    I'm still using Sierra, 10.12.6. Everything I use works with it (some
    of my stuff is really old), and I don't care about the bells and
    whistles that came along in later OSs.


    Yeah. There’s a major problem with Cinema4D which was the 3-D program I’ve been using for the last decade. They did a major re-working after version
    19 and your old files are kaput. The workaround is that you open anything
    older than version 19 in version 19 and re-save it and then they’ll open in newer versions than 19. But I understand 19 won’t run on newer systems like the metal stuff so you sort of have to have a classic computer dedicated
    just for conversion. Or stop going forward. And I’d have to buy Cinema4D
    all over again for the newer versions which would be thousands of dollars.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Thu Oct 27 04:30:46 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article <tj6ths$1ou96$4@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

    I think the port to use is 563 for SSL encryption.
    So Thunderbird updates broke on Windows too? . . .

    How many people do we know that post trolls

    You tell us, Kerman.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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