• [pan2] Example of References: fuzzing (was Re: DON'T RESPOND TO POISON_

    From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 10:30:54 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.ğŸ³ï¸â€ğŸŒˆ>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the
    world is their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    constructing articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who
    use pan2 as their newsreader.

    --
    -v

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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Oct 14 13:08:07 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the
    world is their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    constructing articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who
    use pan2 as their newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't
    see any of its crap unless someone replies to it.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Oct 14 05:42:13 2021
    On 14 Oct 2021 10:30:54 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the
    world is their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    constructing articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who
    use pan2 as their newsreader.

    looks like war, suit up.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Steve on Thu Oct 14 12:28:43 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:08:07 +0100, Steve wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    leave an article that can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are constructing
    articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as their newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    unless someone replies to it.

    Thank you for the suggestion. I'll probably end up doing just that, just wanted to be on record describing
    what this "Jen" character is up to.

    --
    -v

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Steve on Thu Oct 14 14:06:27 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the
    world is their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    constructing articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who
    use pan2 as their newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't
    see any of its crap unless someone replies to it.

    Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection,
    no good purpose is served by trying to engage him.

    --
    ^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

    My pet rock Gordon just is.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 13:36:10 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:06:27 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

    Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs
    include characters that, when transferred to the References: header
    by pan, leave an article that can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are constructing
    articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as their
    newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    unless someone replies to it.

    Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection,
    no good purpose is served by trying to engage him.

    There is perhaps one good purpose for doing so -- at least as far as pan goes -- and that is to generate fuzz
    test cases. ;)

    --
    -v

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  • From pandora@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 12:09:45 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:06:27 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

    Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs
    include characters that, when transferred to the References: header
    by pan, leave an article that can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are constructing
    articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as their
    newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    unless someone replies to it.

    Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection,
    no good purpose is served by trying to engage him.


    I concur. I don't read him/her anymore.

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  • From news@zzo38computer.org.invalid@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Oct 14 11:46:09 2021
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example [...]

    I don't use pan, but I can comment. The References header should not
    include non-ASCII characters. Your message and this one has References containing only ASCII characters, although it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q"
    sequence representing non-ASCII characters. An implementation might
    replace the sequence with the Unicode characters it represents, which
    I think is a bad idea (in the Subject header it can perhaps be useful,
    but it should not be done in the References header). Some of the other follow-up messages just have question marks there instead, meaning that
    the References header no longer matches. Let's see what happens with
    this message; I am posting it with a intact References header.

    Those who do use Pan perhaps should file a bug report (and/or fix it
    if you know how).

    I don't use non-ASCII characters or "=?UTF-8?Q" sequences in my message
    IDs, and I would hope that nobody does, but apparently some people do.
    Although if you want to provide testing, you could perhaps use the
    newsgroup defined for testing this things instead. In addition to testing clients, there is also the case of server testing, in case server software reads the Message-ID and/or References header and what it does with it if
    it contains such things. (My own server software does not check for ASCII sequences representing non-ASCII characters, but does reject any non-ASCII characters entered directly in the message ID, and will refuse to post the message in that case.)

    Here is a copy of the References header of this message (hopefully won't
    get mangled), in case this helps anyone (due to the actual References:
    header being mangled):

    References: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=> <isqf6uF9ch0U2@mid.individual.net>

    (Note that it contains a space followed by a tab, since it is a copy of
    the original References header with the original Message-ID appended.)

    The problem could become even worse if it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q?" sequence which represents ASCII characters, I suppose? (Even if so, I am not going
    to post such a message, except possibly to a testing-only newsgroup.)

    --
    Don't laugh at the moon when it is day time in France.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 16:23:15 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On 14 Oct 2021 12:28:43 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently
    decided to freely share it with us in
    <isqm3rF9ch0U4@mid.individual.net>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:08:07 +0100, Steve wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= vallor wrote: =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= leave an article that can't be read by pan. This very article is an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= example, responding to: Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their oyster!) The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= constructing articles for which naive responses, using pan, aren't
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= _readable_ by pan. It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their newsreader.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= unless someone replies to it.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thank you for the suggestion. I'll probably end up doing just that,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= just wanted to be on record describing what this "Jen" character is up
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    FREE CLOO: nobody cares if you read my posts or not.

    <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<%24.B1HqkTf.%40checkmate.orgy.%3D%3FUTF-8%3FQ%3F%3DF0%3D9F%3D8F%3DB3%3DEF%3DB8%3D8F%3DE2%3D80%3D8D%3DF0%3D9F%3D8C%3D88%3F%3D>>
    Subject: LMAO @ clownMate!
    Message-ID: <$.B1HqkTf.@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=>

    https://imgur.com/jTohqpD

    --
    [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION]

    Jen Dershmender hilariously commenting on the disheveled shuffling of Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> (of alt.checkmate) in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/JoB2cpB9gZA/m/RaHcHEcaBAAJ :

    "he's always making lemons out of lemonade. for instance: when your novelty newsfroup gets dropped from two servers due to abuse you could have stopped instead of sit on the sidelines cheering with the pom-poms and pleated skirt, you gotta look on the
    bright side."

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ncxChBuKYgA/m/gcMJCBD3CAAJ gh0stanon
    Apr 15, 2021, 9:47:18 PM
    to
    lol sorry about that. fun times though
    --
    gh0stAnon <<+++
    cloakn3kcia4pnos.onion port 6697 ssl
    cloa...@REMOVEriseup.net
    Twitter: @locogh0st

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/DbfQkL2tXwo/m/Mi-ALXYjBQAJ
    luv
    unread,
    Aug 16, 2021, 3:25:54 PM
    to
    Me and my crew are looking for more peeps throughout the country to join our organization
    for mayhem and mischief purposes. If you join you will need to meet personally with one
    of our members to be thouroughly vetted. Some of the things you can expect to have to do
    may include things like protesting an area, visiting with someone, etc..

    If interested, email cr4ckedKl0wn@protonmail dot com

    --
    Cr4ck3d Kl0wn

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 16:18:46 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:09:45 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; pandora
    <pandora@peak.org> determined that the following was of great
    importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <R4OdnTz78qjE-fX8nZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@supernews.com>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:06:27 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= vallor wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?snoop.com domain= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= leave an article that can't be read by pan. This very article is an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= example, responding to: Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their oyster!) The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= constructing articles for which naive responses, using pan, aren't
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= _readable_ by pan. It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their newsreader.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= unless someone replies to it.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection, no good purpose is
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= served by trying to engage him.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I concur. I don't read him/her anymore. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    why does pan take the ascii chars in my MID and make it a gay rainbow flag?

    ...and why is someone blaming /me/ for what pan incorrectly does.

    it's been explained elsewhere that a news reader shouldn't be manipulating ascii in the References: header in the first fking place.

    i implore vallor to file a bug report with the pan development team and quit whining about it here.

    <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<%24.B1HqkTf.%40checkmate.orgy.%3D%3FUTF-8%3FQ%3F%3DF0%3D9F%3D8F%3DB3%3DEF%3DB8%3D8F%3DE2%3D80%3D8D%3DF0%3D9F%3D8C%3D88%3F%3D>>
    Subject: LMAO @ clownMate!
    Message-ID: <$.B1HqkTf.@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=>

    https://imgur.com/jTohqpD

    --
    [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION]

    Jen Dershmender hilariously commenting on the disheveled shuffling of Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> (of alt.checkmate) in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/JoB2cpB9gZA/m/RaHcHEcaBAAJ :

    "he's always making lemons out of lemonade. for instance: when your novelty newsfroup gets dropped from two servers due to abuse you could have stopped instead of sit on the sidelines cheering with the pom-poms and pleated skirt, you gotta look on the
    bright side."

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ncxChBuKYgA/m/gcMJCBD3CAAJ gh0stanon
    Apr 15, 2021, 9:47:18 PM
    to
    lol sorry about that. fun times though
    --
    gh0stAnon <<+++
    cloakn3kcia4pnos.onion port 6697 ssl
    cloa...@REMOVEriseup.net
    Twitter: @locogh0st

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/DbfQkL2tXwo/m/Mi-ALXYjBQAJ
    luv
    unread,
    Aug 16, 2021, 3:25:54 PM
    to
    Me and my crew are looking for more peeps throughout the country to join our organization
    for mayhem and mischief purposes. If you join you will need to meet personally with one
    of our members to be thouroughly vetted. Some of the things you can expect to have to do
    may include things like protesting an area, visiting with someone, etc..

    If interested, email cr4ckedKl0wn@protonmail dot com

    --
    Cr4ck3d Kl0wn

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  • From mon amorosa@21:1/5 to pandora on Sat Oct 16 13:49:49 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On 10/14/2021 11:09 AM, pandora wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:06:27 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

    Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs
    include characters that, when transferred to the References: header
    by pan, leave an article that can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example, responding to:

    Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>

    (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    their oyster!)

    The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are constructing
    articles for which naive responses,
    using pan, aren't _readable_ by pan.

    It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as their
    newsreader.

    You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    unless someone replies to it.

    Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection,
    no good purpose is served by trying to engage him.


    I concur. I don't read him/her anymore.

    #someone should link your youtube cesspool channel here, eh Pandy?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 16 16:12:02 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers

    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:49:49 -0600, LO AND BEHOLD; mon amorosa
    <dvd@fn.crk> determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <skfacu$8e4$1@dont-email.me>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 10/14/2021 11:09 AM, pandora wrote: =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:06:27 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Steve <lammasland@gmail.com> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= vallor wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= leave an article that can't be read by pan. This very article is an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= example, responding to: Message-ID: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.????>
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Isn't that just adorable? Jen can fuzz newsreaders -- the world is
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their oyster!) The potential for abuse can't be understated. They are
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= constructing articles for which naive responses, using pan, aren't
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= _readable_ by pan. It's an active attack against people who use pan2 as
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= their newsreader.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You could just killfile the knucklehead. I don't see any of its crap
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= unless someone replies to it.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Ditto. IMO he should be under Formosa Protection, no good purpose is
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= served by trying to engage him.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I concur. I don't read him/her anymore.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= #someone should link your youtube cesspool channel here, eh Pandy?
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    SVBSCRIBE!!!!1!!!!

    lnx plz!!!

    <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<%24.B1HqkTf.%40checkmate.orgy.%3D%3FUTF-8%3FQ%3F%3DF0%3D9F%3D8F%3DB3%3DEF%3DB8%3D8F%3DE2%3D80%3D8D%3DF0%3D9F%3D8C%3D88%3F%3D>>
    Subject: LMAO @ clownMate!
    Message-ID: <$.B1HqkTf.@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=>

    https://imgur.com/jTohqpD

    --
    [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION]

    Jen Dershmender hilariously commenting on the disheveled shuffling of Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> (of alt.checkmate) in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/JoB2cpB9gZA/m/RaHcHEcaBAAJ :

    "he's always making lemons out of lemonade. for instance: when your novelty newsfroup gets dropped from two servers due to abuse you could have stopped instead of sit on the sidelines cheering with the pom-poms and pleated skirt, you gotta look on the
    bright side."

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ncxChBuKYgA/m/gcMJCBD3CAAJ gh0stanon
    Apr 15, 2021, 9:47:18 PM
    to
    lol sorry about that. fun times though
    --
    gh0stAnon <<+++
    cloakn3kcia4pnos.onion port 6697 ssl
    cloa...@REMOVEriseup.net
    Twitter: @locogh0st

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/DbfQkL2tXwo/m/Mi-ALXYjBQAJ
    luv
    unread,
    Aug 16, 2021, 3:25:54 PM
    to
    Me and my crew are looking for more peeps throughout the country to join our organization
    for mayhem and mischief purposes. If you join you will need to meet personally with one
    of our members to be thouroughly vetted. Some of the things you can expect to have to do
    may include things like protesting an area, visiting with someone, etc..

    If interested, email cr4ckedKl0wn@protonmail dot com

    --
    Cr4ck3d Kl0wn

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to news@zzo38computer.org.invalid on Tue Oct 19 01:14:35 2021
    On 10/14/21 11:46 AM, news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote:
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles'
    Message-IDs include characters that, when transferred
    to the References: header by pan, leave an article that
    can't be read by pan.

    This very article is an example [...]

    I don't use pan, but I can comment. The References header should not
    include non-ASCII characters. Your message and this one has References containing only ASCII characters, although it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q"
    sequence representing non-ASCII characters. An implementation might
    replace the sequence with the Unicode characters it represents, which
    I think is a bad idea (in the Subject header it can perhaps be useful,
    but it should not be done in the References header). Some of the other follow-up messages just have question marks there instead, meaning that
    the References header no longer matches. Let's see what happens with
    this message; I am posting it with a intact References header.

    Those who do use Pan perhaps should file a bug report (and/or fix it
    if you know how).

    I don't use non-ASCII characters or "=?UTF-8?Q" sequences in my message
    IDs, and I would hope that nobody does, but apparently some people do. Although if you want to provide testing, you could perhaps use the
    newsgroup defined for testing this things instead. In addition to testing clients, there is also the case of server testing, in case server software reads the Message-ID and/or References header and what it does with it if
    it contains such things. (My own server software does not check for ASCII sequences representing non-ASCII characters, but does reject any non-ASCII characters entered directly in the message ID, and will refuse to post the message in that case.)

    Here is a copy of the References header of this message (hopefully won't
    get mangled), in case this helps anyone (due to the actual References:
    header being mangled):

    References: <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=> <isqf6uF9ch0U2@mid.individual.net>

    (Note that it contains a space followed by a tab, since it is a copy of
    the original References header with the original Message-ID appended.)

    The problem could become even worse if it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q?" sequence which represents ASCII characters, I suppose? (Even if so, I am not going
    to post such a message, except possibly to a testing-only newsgroup.)


    Thank you very much for the response, that helps clear things up quite a
    bit.

    I hope to pursue this in my spare time.

    Thank you,

    --
    -v

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 05:25:53 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 01:14:35 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor
    <vallor@cultnix.org> determined that the following was of great
    importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <P7vbJ.248$F97.165@fx47.iad>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 10/14/21 11:46 AM, news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= leave an article that can't be read by pan. This very article is an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= example [...]
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I don't use pan, but I can comment. The References header should not
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= include non-ASCII characters. Your message and this one has References
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= containing only ASCII characters, although it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q"
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= sequence representing non-ASCII characters. An implementation might
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= replace the sequence with the Unicode characters it represents, which I
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= think is a bad idea (in the Subject header it can perhaps be useful,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= but it should not be done in the References header). Some of the other
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= follow-up messages just have question marks there instead, meaning that
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the References header no longer matches. Let's see what happens with
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= this message; I am posting it with a intact References header. Those
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= who do use Pan perhaps should file a bug report (and/or fix it if you
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= know how). I don't use non-ASCII characters or "=?UTF-8?Q" sequences in
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= my message IDs, and I would hope that nobody does, but apparently some
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= people do. Although if you want to provide testing, you could perhaps
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= use the newsgroup defined for testing this things instead. In addition
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to testing clients, there is also the case of server testing, in case
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= server software reads the Message-ID and/or References header and what
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= it does with it if it contains such things. (My own server software does
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= not check for ASCII sequences representing non-ASCII characters, but
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= does reject any non-ASCII characters entered directly in the message
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ID, and will refuse to post the message in that case.) Here is a copy
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= of the References header of this message (hopefully won't get mangled),
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= in case this helps anyone (due to the actual References: header being
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= mangled): References:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =9F=8C=88?=> <isqf6uF9ch0U2@mid.individual.net> (Note that it contains a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= space followed by a tab, since it is a copy of the original References
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= header with the original Message-ID appended.) The problem could become
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= even worse if it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q?" sequence which represents ASCII
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters, I suppose? (Even if so, I am not going to post such a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= message, except possibly to a testing-only newsgroup.)
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thank you very much for the response, that helps clear things up quite a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= bit.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I hope to pursue this in my spare time. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thank you,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    oh, cool! are you finally going to fix /my/ broaken news reader, then?

    "4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast...

    On Sun, 30 May 2021 12:23:08 +0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Red Elephant <none@yourbusiness.com> determined that the following was of great
    importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <s9003c$6mc$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    ✡ That Jen creature is still gone? HAHAHAAH Love it Fucking gender queers
    ✡
    ✡ https://ibb.co/HKHGK5z https://ibb.co/fFK3bMT https://ibb.co/TtBrHtY

    --
    [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION]

    THIS SPACE FOR RENT
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA

    -

    "Also, it makes you look intellectually weak if you constantly spout derogatory opinions about people, but can never back any of them up with valid reasons. In alt.checkmate, someone will challenge that every time." - _The Most Ironic Thing Ever Said_ by
    Checkmate in <MPG.3a6d564ad426be8d989eb1@news.alt.net>

    -

    "Starting with the World's Ugliest Chimp, Maxine Waters. That bitch is hideous! It's no wonder "she always mad," to put it ebonically." - Checkmate "looking intellectually weak" (and racist AF) in <MPG.3a81d71c7c7ba04998a064@news.alt.net>

    -

    "Subject: THE GREAT MASK MYTH... UNMASKED" - Checkmate the anti-masker in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ROknxOsPeEE/m/I-cujRAzBQAJ

    -

    "Conservatives aren't looking for a war. Libtards are planning one, and it starts with the cowardly antifa punks who dress in black, cover their
    faces, wear helmets, and surround elderly citizens, poking them with metal-tipped umbrellas. You know, like fascists." - another borken prediction from Checkmate (umbrella guy was later found to be a fascist) in <cue77g.ten.19.9@news.alt.net>

    -

    "It will always be with you. Why do you think I hate those bastards as much as I do? I've been watching a lecture series on the history of the muzzies... many hour's worth, in fact, and the muzzies have been that way for thousands of years. It's in their
    culture. Every few hundred years, they try to invade Europe or some other region nearby, and have to be beaten back. They just need to be eliminated to whatever extent that's possible. You can't kill ideas completely, but you can set them back a few
    generations when necessary.

    One important distinction between islam and christianity, is both religions have historically used their "beliefs" as a means to control the ignorant Unwashed Masses, only Western civilization became educated enough to take that power away from the
    clergy. The muzzies like their citizens to remain dumb, brainwashed, and obedient. That's why the radical ones are nearly all from The Land That Time Forgot. They're still stuck back in the fourteenth century, and suffer from the delusional notion that
    they're going to drag the rest of the world back there with them. As I see it, there's only one solution to that problem, and it's the same one we use to rid ourselves of rats, cockroaches, and other vermin." - Checkmate said this psycho lunatic shit in <
    MPG.34138d3d6e7bb33c991772@news.altopia.com>

    -

    "What you see happening in Europe now... defiant muzzies openly proclaiming that they have no desire to "assimilate" or co-exist with Europeans, and stating that their objective is to turn all of Europe into a muzzie dominated region under sharia law, is
    the harbinger of what they have planned for the US. To what extent they'll be successful with that here can be debated, but should not be underestimated. I wish I could share your optimism in that regard, but I don't.

    Terror attacks are only one page out of the muzzie play book. They serve more as a distraction. The real goal is occupation, and that's already well underway. They've got that frog pretty well boiled in Europe now, and they're getting bolder by the
    day. The longer the Europeans wait to do something about it, the harder it's going to be TO do anything about it. It may already be too late IMO. This is going to get real messy in a hurry." - Checkmate crying about some bullshit about muslims in
    europe that's he's convinced himself is true.

    -

    "Bitches don't get to use the Pussy Card when they initiate an
    assault." - Cuckmate the Wonder Klown in <dfrauh.8sn.17.129@news.alt.net>

    -

    "Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on
    Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Herr Fuhrer Checkmate (of
    alt.checkmate)

    -

    "Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too.
    One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

    -

    "You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

    -

    STOP! (janithor time.):

    i hope his sails weren't torn asunder with words on a screen, or
    somesuch, but also i hope that his pain is not as bad as the murderguy
    who got hit with a skateboard. - anynonymous

    -

    "If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is
    backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode

    -

    "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

    -

    "I wasn't even aware that I HAD a religion. I'm pretty-much against all of The Big Three, but the muzzies are at the top of the list." - Checkmate

    -

    "Such "places of worship" are terrorist breeding grounds, as has been proven on many occasions. Please refrain from morphing out of my
    killfile." - Checkmate on his belief that all Mosques are where terrorists are.

    -

    "Is Pussy Willow saying you're a bigger nazi puke than me? You didn't even suggest that maybe we ought to burn down all the mosques. This just isn't fair!" - Checkmate admits to suggesting burning down mosques.

    -

    "The world IS shit, and getting closer to hitting the fan every day. We'll be at war before the end of this decade, and nearly everybody
    already knows it." - Checkmate teh war hawk, in 2017

    -

    Golden Killfile, June 2005
    KOTM, November 2006
    Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
    Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
    Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
    Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
    Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
    AUK Mascot, September 2007
    Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 9 01:08:38 2021
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 01:14:35 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor
    <vallor@cultnix.org> determined that the following was of great
    importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <P7vbJ.248$F97.165@fx47.iad>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 10/14/21 11:46 AM, news@zzo38computer.org.invalid wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I have a strange sense of deja vu. Jen's articles' Message-IDs include
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters that, when transferred to the References: header by pan,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= leave an article that can't be read by pan. This very article is an
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= example [...]
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I don't use pan, but I can comment. The References header should not
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= include non-ASCII characters. Your message and this one has References
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= containing only ASCII characters, although it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q"
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= sequence representing non-ASCII characters. An implementation might
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= replace the sequence with the Unicode characters it represents, which I
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= think is a bad idea (in the Subject header it can perhaps be useful,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= but it should not be done in the References header). Some of the other
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= follow-up messages just have question marks there instead, meaning that
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the References header no longer matches. Let's see what happens with
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= this message; I am posting it with a intact References header. Those
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= who do use Pan perhaps should file a bug report (and/or fix it if you
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= know how). I don't use non-ASCII characters or "=?UTF-8?Q" sequences in
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= my message IDs, and I would hope that nobody does, but apparently some
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= people do. Although if you want to provide testing, you could perhaps
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= use the newsgroup defined for testing this things instead. In addition
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to testing clients, there is also the case of server testing, in case
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= server software reads the Message-ID and/or References header and what
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= it does with it if it contains such things. (My own server software does
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= not check for ASCII sequences representing non-ASCII characters, but
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= does reject any non-ASCII characters entered directly in the message
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ID, and will refuse to post the message in that case.) Here is a copy
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= of the References header of this message (hopefully won't get mangled),
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= in case this helps anyone (due to the actual References: header being
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= mangled): References:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <$g63dRgft$@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =9F=8C=88?=> <isqf6uF9ch0U2@mid.individual.net> (Note that it contains a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= space followed by a tab, since it is a copy of the original References
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= header with the original Message-ID appended.) The problem could become
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= even worse if it contains a "=?UTF-8?Q?" sequence which represents ASCII
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= characters, I suppose? (Even if so, I am not going to post such a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= message, except possibly to a testing-only newsgroup.)
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thank you very much for the response, that helps clear things up quite a
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= bit.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I hope to pursue this in my spare time. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Thank you,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    i don't think that it's going to "clear it up" if someone tells you a fifth time that your news reader shouldn't be decoding stuff in a "References:" header.

    the fix is to exclude the References from whatever fking for-loop or "overall decoder" they are employing.

    this isn't rocket appliances, FFS...

    <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<%24.B1HqkTf.%40checkmate.orgy.%3D%3FUTF-8%3FQ%3F%3DF0%3D9F%3D8F%3DB3%3DEF%3DB8%3D8F%3DE2%3D80%3D8D%3DF0%3D9F%3D8C%3D88%3F%3D>>
    Subject: LMAO @ clownMate!
    Message-ID: <$.B1HqkTf.@checkmate.orgy.=?UTF-8?Q?=F0=9F=8F=B3=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=8C=88?=>

    https://imgur.com/jTohqpD

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    [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION]

    Jen Dershmender hilariously commenting on the disheveled shuffling of Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> (of alt.checkmate) in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/JoB2cpB9gZA/m/RaHcHEcaBAAJ :

    "he's always making lemons out of lemonade. for instance: when your novelty newsfroup gets dropped from two servers due to abuse you could have stopped instead of sit on the sidelines cheering with the pom-poms and pleated skirt, you gotta look on the
    bright side."

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ncxChBuKYgA/m/gcMJCBD3CAAJ gh0stanon
    Apr 15, 2021, 9:47:18 PM
    to
    lol sorry about that. fun times though
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    gh0stAnon <<+++
    cloakn3kcia4pnos.onion port 6697 ssl
    cloa...@REMOVEriseup.net
    Twitter: @locogh0st

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/DbfQkL2tXwo/m/Mi-ALXYjBQAJ
    luv
    unread,
    Aug 16, 2021, 3:25:54 PM
    to
    Me and my crew are looking for more peeps throughout the country to join our organization
    for mayhem and mischief purposes. If you join you will need to meet personally with one
    of our members to be thouroughly vetted. Some of the things you can expect to have to do
    may include things like protesting an area, visiting with someone, etc..

    If interested, email cr4ckedKl0wn@protonmail dot com

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