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  • Two servers down?

    From Jim S@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 13:21:33 2021
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    --
    Jim S

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim S@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 14:39:55 2021
    In article <XnsADC092124396FjimjimXscottcouk@46.165.242.75>, jim@jimXscott.co.uk says...

    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.

    E-S is back

    --
    Jim S

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Oct 11 12:55:11 2021
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    jim@jimXscott.co.uk said:

    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.

    E-S is back

    Got your test message from AIOE, and later from ES to my individual.net server.

    http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en

    Doesn't show zero volume, so their servers were up and handling some
    traffic.

    Too late now, but next time maybe do a traceroute to see if a host in
    the route between you and ES went dead or became super slow.

    ES does seem very slow, though. I just newly subscribed to eternal-september.support, and retrieving 6K+ articles is taking a long
    time. In the time to write up this reply while checking with a
    tracerout along with an interruption, only about 500 articles were
    retrieved; however, instead of retrieving just the overview headers, I
    retrieve full articles (headers+body) which lets me test on all headers,
    not just the overview headers, for more robust filtering.

    Did a traceroute to news.eternal-september.org. Nothing unusual. There
    was a sudden increase in delay, but that's due to routing along the
    undersea cable between continents (New York to France), and no big jumps thereafter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Jim S on Mon Oct 11 12:43:30 2021
    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    jim@jimXscott.co.uk said:

    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.

    E-S is back

    Got your test message from AIOE, and later from ES to my individual.net
    server.

    http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en

    Doesn't show zero volume, so their servers were up and handling some
    traffic.

    Too late now, but next time maybe do a traceroute to see if a host in
    the route between you and ES went dead or became super slow.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim S@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Oct 12 00:04:02 2021
    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:55:11 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    jim@jimXscott.co.uk said:

    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.

    E-S is back

    Got your test message from AIOE, and later from ES to my individual.net
    server.

    http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en

    Doesn't show zero volume, so their servers were up and handling some
    traffic.

    Too late now, but next time maybe do a traceroute to see if a host in
    the route between you and ES went dead or became super slow.

    ES does seem very slow, though. I just newly subscribed to eternal-september.support, and retrieving 6K+ articles is taking a long
    time. In the time to write up this reply while checking with a
    tracerout along with an interruption, only about 500 articles were
    retrieved; however, instead of retrieving just the overview headers, I retrieve full articles (headers+body) which lets me test on all headers,
    not just the overview headers, for more robust filtering.

    Did a traceroute to news.eternal-september.org. Nothing unusual. There
    was a sudden increase in delay, but that's due to routing along the
    undersea cable between continents (New York to France), and no big jumps thereafter.

    I'm not bothered about E-S now that it's back, but I do like Paganini which
    has been fine up until today.
    --
    Jim S

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Oct 12 11:43:54 2021
    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim S@21:1/5 to Branimir Maksimovic on Tue Oct 12 14:11:24 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    --
    Jim S

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Oct 12 14:04:04 2021
    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim S@21:1/5 to Branimir Maksimovic on Tue Oct 12 17:44:03 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks
    --
    Jim S

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Oct 12 20:15:45 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:44:03 +0100
    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
    reponding Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    HQ Belize

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks

    Text is Best!


    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to John on Tue Oct 12 20:27:13 2021
    Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:44:03 +0100
    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
    reponding Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too. >>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    HQ Belize

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks

    Text is Best!

    Several binary services have perfectly serviceable text groups too,
    some with retention up to 17 years. A $5, 10GB non-expiring block
    account would last most text Usenetters a lifetime, as Branimir said.

    --
    ^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

    My pet rock Gordon just is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Oct 12 20:52:16 2021
    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding >>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks
    You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
    Binaries are just option :P
    Greets :P

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Oct 12 20:53:41 2021
    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding >>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?

    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

    You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
    lifetime.
    Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
    And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
    So...


    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Branimir Maksimovic on Tue Oct 12 15:46:49 2021
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?

    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

    You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
    lifetime. It's 10GB until you use it up much like your dinner: it's on
    your plate until you eat it up, and then have to buy more to fill your
    plate again.

    To be honest, I've never bothered to measure my bandwidth consumption
    with any of my Usenet providers. Never needed to. I only visit
    text-only newsgroups, no binaries, so my bandwidth consumption should be
    pretty low. However, when subscribing to a new newsgroup, all messages
    get downloaded, and some newsgroups are still damn busy (lots of
    volume). I'd have to get something to monitor just my NNTP bandwidth consumption since my NNTP client doesn't do that. I see they have a
    user login page. Maybe bandwidth consumption could be monitored there
    to know how much of the block quota is left.

    They mention "subscription" at their site. I don't want them
    automatically charging my Paypal when a block quota gets used up. I
    want to buy a block, and then *I* decide later if I want to buy another
    block.

    If your block account is getting used up quickly, can you buy more
    bandwidth to have to added to what you already have (like rollover
    minutes for some phone carriers), or do you get another account to
    separately use the new block?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Branimir Maksimovic on Tue Oct 12 16:04:10 2021
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding >>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?

    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

    You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
    lifetime.
    Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
    And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
    So...

    Since you have an account with them, and if you use their login page to
    get into your account, do they show remaining quota in your account, so
    you can guage your rate of consumption?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Oct 12 21:27:47 2021
    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding >>>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?

    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

    You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
    lifetime.
    Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
    And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
    So...

    Since you have an account with them, and if you use their login page to
    get into your account, do they show remaining quota in your account, so
    you can guage your rate of consumption?
    User bmaxa logged in.


    Quota:
    Total: 10.0000 GB
    Used: 0.8718 GB
    Left: 9.1282 GB

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Oct 12 21:25:13 2021
    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding >>>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?

    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

    You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
    lifetime.
    Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
    And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
    So...

    Since you have an account with them, and if you use their login page to
    get into your account, do they show remaining quota in your account, so
    you can guage your rate of consumption?
    I use web page only to check how much bw I spent,
    but rarely, as text is few data.

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim S@21:1/5 to Branimir Maksimovic on Wed Oct 13 12:09:12 2021
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote in news:4Am9J.205185$Kv2.37011@fx47.iad:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
    reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks
    You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
    Binaries are just option :P
    Greets :P

    Payment is not an option.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Oct 13 11:55:40 2021
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    [...]

    To be honest, I've never bothered to measure my bandwidth consumption
    with any of my Usenet providers. Never needed to. I only visit
    text-only newsgroups, no binaries, so my bandwidth consumption should be pretty low. However, when subscribing to a new newsgroup, all messages
    get downloaded, and some newsgroups are still damn busy (lots of
    volume). I'd have to get something to monitor just my NNTP bandwidth consumption since my NNTP client doesn't do that. I see they have a
    user login page. Maybe bandwidth consumption could be monitored there
    to know how much of the block quota is left.

    Text is peanuts. For example, I've used only 118MB network bandwidth
    this year for NetNews/Usenet.

    OTOH, considering your often very lengthy posts, .... :-)

    [...]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Jim S on Wed Oct 13 15:56:32 2021
    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote in news:4Am9J.205185$Kv2.37011@fx47.iad:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
    reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks
    You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
    Binaries are just option :P
    Greets :P

    Payment is not an option.


    In the old-fashioned Spirit of the Internet: you should contribute
    at least as much as you take, lest it die of starvation.

    There is a voluntary donation link on the Eternal-September website.
    Don't forget, Eternal-September is a labour of love, not for profit.

    Just sayin'.

    --
    ^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

    My pet rock Gordon just is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Branimir Maksimovic@21:1/5 to Jim S on Wed Oct 13 14:27:20 2021
    On 2021-10-13, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote in news:4Am9J.205185$Kv2.37011@fx47.iad:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-12, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

    On 2021-10-11, Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
    reponding
    Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
    |You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

    5S?
    https://usenet-news.net/
    10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

    Ah!
    No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
    Thanks
    You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
    Binaries are just option :P
    Greets :P

    Payment is not an option.
    Why? nothing on this world is free ...

    --

    7-77-777
    Evil Sinner!
    with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)