i just think that... if Usenet allowed a small image to be
embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much Greater!
Number-dle (Mastermind) puzzle (with 3 digits)
(i just wrote (non-elegant) Python code.)
Could you share a short, VERY Readable Pythonic code that solves this?
Thank you!
https://i.imgur.com/72LGJjj.jpeg
3 digit lock
[682]: One number is correct and well-placed
[614]: One number is correct but wrongly placed
[206]: Two numbers are correct but wrongly placed
[738]: Nothing is correct
[780]: One number is correct but wrongly placed
HINT -- A mark of a great puzzle, this one contains a surprises or two.
i just think that...  if Usenet allowed a small image to be
         embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much Greater!
That just sounds like mime encoding.
a lot of people use tuiclients too
On 2/25/24 16:45, candycanearter07 wrote:
That just sounds like mime encoding.
Mime is just one form of encoding. Probably the most common in the
email world. But there are others.
a lot of people use tuiclients too
I don't see how text user interfaces preclude images. Just because they might not be able to display them natively doesn't preclude the client
from handling image (et al.) attachments.
There are some terminal (emulators) that can handle images just fine;
XTerm and Sixel comes to mind.
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...???? if Usenet allowed a small image to be
?????????????????? embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...  if Usenet allowed a small image to be
         embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on >attachment size.
D <nospam@example.net> writes:
Shudder! I'm very happy with text only. Keeping binaries away I think
is a key element to a working usenet.
Yip. Let's keep Usenet as is.
But experiments with allowing more should happen.
There is no need to force all this into Usenet.
Maybe use mailing lists gated to NNTP?
Some if them[0] already allow much more.
Launch an own server?
Play with Cyrus-NNTP[1]?
Shudder! I'm very happy with text only. Keeping binaries away I think
is a key element to a working usenet.
I want it all.
I want everything in the same frontend.
You can just post a Python program to /generate/ the binary.
For example:
with open( 'output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin', 'wb' )as sink:
sink.write( b'\00\01\02' )
. Now, one can run this Python program and will get the binary file
"output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin" with the three bytes
00, 01, and 02.
I want as many painfully difficult hoops to jump through as
necessary to discourage the descendents of marauding Eternal
September hoards from participating - yea, to the point of
rewinding USENET space to its pre- Eternal September
glory.... ;-)
I want as many painfully difficult hoops to jump through as
necessary to discourage the descendents of marauding Eternal
September hoards from participating - yea, to the point of
rewinding USENET space to its pre- Eternal September
glory.... ;-)
I feel your pain, but...
The current situation seems to have driven away most of the
well- intentioned users, while doing little to discourage
the spammers and cranks :-(
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a graphic if it is necessary.
On 2024-02-26, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
On 2/25/24 16:45, candycanearter07 wrote:
That just sounds like mime encoding.
Mime is just one form of encoding. Probably the most common in the
email world. But there are others.
I thought mime was the default for USENET tho..
Yes, since RFC 5536:
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5536#section-2.3>
|
| 2.3. MIME Conformance
|
| User agents MUST meet the definition of MIME conformance in [RFC2049]
| and MUST also support [RFC2231]. This level of MIME conformance
| provides support for internationalization and multimedia in message
| bodies [RFC2045], [RFC2046], and [RFC2231], and support for
| internationalization of header fields [RFC2047] and [RFC2231]. [...]
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to
illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs
some thought.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Michael Bäuerle wrote:
Yes, since RFC 5536:
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5536#section-2.3>
|
| 2.3. MIME Conformance
|
| User agents MUST meet the definition of MIME conformance in [RFC2049]
| and MUST also support [RFC2231]. This level of MIME conformance
| provides support for internationalization and multimedia in message
| bodies [RFC2045], [RFC2046], and [RFC2231], and support for
| internationalization of header fields [RFC2047] and [RFC2231]. [...]
Interesting, so software support is actually *mandated*,
of course using this also depends on group and server policies.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm >> working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or
objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk (in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can read and respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a >>>> graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm >>> working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or
objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of >> (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages
from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the
server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk
(in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can
read and respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that >> would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
IMO it's more like reinventing the wheel.
Why not just use an offline newsreader?
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Sn!pe wrote:[...]
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the >>>> server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to
local disk (in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that)
so that I can read and respond to them offline, and then send them once >>>> I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if
that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round
hole?
Best regards, Daniel
IMO it's more like reinventing the wheel.
Why not just use an offline newsreader?
Because I like my mail client and can use the same scripting
functionality, keys etc.
A perfectly valid reason. I'm wedded to my 'reader too.
Colin Macleod wrote:
Michael Bäuerle wrote:
Yes, since RFC 5536:
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5536#section-2.3>
|
| 2.3. MIME Conformance
|
| User agents MUST meet the definition of MIME conformance in [RFC2049]
| and MUST also support [RFC2231]. This level of MIME conformance
| provides support for internationalization and multimedia in message
| bodies [RFC2045], [RFC2046], and [RFC2231], and support for
| internationalization of header fields [RFC2047] and [RFC2231]. [...]
Interesting, so software support is actually *mandated*,
And even Xnews can support it with "Mime-proxy":
<https://web.archive.org/web/20150923091912/http://www.lamaiziere.net/mp_pagen.html>
Example article from german test group:
<news:urhrhi.ieo.1@barghahn-online.de>
of course using this also depends on group and server policies.
The MIME features to support languages, that require non-ASCII encoding, should be usable nearly everywhere.
Such policies should only target binary attachments in most cases.
But yes, embedding an image is the topic of this thread, and this will
not work on many servers.
Colin Macleod <cgm@erehwon.invalid> writes:
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on >>attachment size.
You can just post a Python program to /generate/ the binary.
For example:
with open( 'output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin', 'wb' )as sink:
sink.write( b'\00\01\02' )
. Now, one can run this Python program and will get the binary file
"output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin" with the three bytes
00, 01, and 02.
But be warned: If you already have a file named
"output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin"
on your hard drive, the above program may *overwrite*
(delete) your existing file. So proceed with care!
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, D wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm >>> working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or
objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of >> (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages
from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the
server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I would >> ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk (in >> Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can read and
respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that >> would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
And I received an answer in another group. The answer is leafnode.org.
This does (based on a glance at the documentation) exactly what I was
looking for! =)
On 2024-02-26, Colin Macleod <cgm@erehwon.invalid> wrote:
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to
illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs
some thought.
Indeed does it seem that most human problems boil down to "how to
deal with and/or work around assholes".
To me, the workarounds seem procrastination from the real work
of eradicating assholism - aka egoism - which for me begins in
the mirror.
I somtimes wonder how problematic this is? If you sit me
down in front of anything besides vim I don't know what
to do! ;)
On 2024-02-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I somtimes wonder how problematic this is? If you sit me
down in front of anything besides vim I don't know what
to do! ;)
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code implementing
the aspects of slrn I actually use, and reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to augment vim might lead to some glorious
one-stop typing ecstasy.... ;-)
On 2024-02-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I somtimes wonder how problematic this is? If you sit me
down in front of anything besides vim I don't know what
to do! ;)
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code implementing
the aspects of slrn I actually use, and reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to augment vim might lead to some glorious
one-stop typing ecstasy.... ;-)
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code
implementing the aspects of slrn I actually use, and
reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to
augment vim might lead to some glorious one-stop typing
ecstasy.... ;-)
Sounds plausible! But what would the wife say? ;)
In case you didn't already see it, have a look at leafnode.org.
It's a C codebase for acting as a news proxy/local server,
and I imagine that perhaps it could be a strong component
in such a glorious solution!
On 2024-02-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code
implementing the aspects of slrn I actually use, and
reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to
augment vim might lead to some glorious one-stop typing
ecstasy.... ;-)
Sounds plausible! But what would the wife say? ;)
I've become pretty adept at being the tree that nearby others can't
hear falling in what they consider to be their woods. ;-)
In case you didn't already see it, have a look at leafnode.org.
Yeah, investigated it after your first mention. But I've been happy
with pointing slrn to news.eternal-september.org.
It's a C codebase for acting as a news proxy/local server,
and I imagine that perhaps it could be a strong component
in such a glorious solution!
That's too heavy in terms of what I want happening (more like *not* happening) on my Chromebook. But I appreciate your having brought it
to my attention!
I thought mime was the default for USENET tho..
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into
hundreds of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part
of a message* just as one might do in an email.
I think it would be very helpful to allow the second more generally,
with sensible limits on attachment size.
That's too heavy in terms of what I want happening (more
like *not* happening) on my Chromebook. But I appreciate
your having brought it to my attention!
Well, slrnpull is lighter.
["Followup-To:" header set to news.software.readers.]
Well, slrnpull is lighter.
On 2/26/24 03:51, Colin Macleod wrote:
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into
hundreds of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part
of a message* just as one might do in an email.
There is and there isn't at the same time.
What differentiates someone from sending thousands of messages with 32
kB binary to make up the image from someone else that sends a 32 kB
graphic to discuss?
On 2024-02-26, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
That's too heavy in terms of what I want happening (more
like *not* happening) on my Chromebook. But I appreciate
your having brought it to my attention!
Well, slrnpull is lighter.
Hadn't heard of it. Thanks!
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...  if Usenet allowed a small image to be
         embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
On 2024-02-26, oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> wrote:
On 2024-02-26, Colin Macleod <cgm@erehwon.invalid> wrote:
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to
illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs
some thought.
Indeed does it seem that most human problems boil down to "how to
deal with and/or work around assholes".
To me, the workarounds seem procrastination from the real work
of eradicating assholism - aka egoism - which for me begins in
the mirror.
People being jerks ruins most software. There's a reason no-trust models
are so important..
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...  if Usenet allowed a small image to be
         embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
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