• Re: is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)

    From Big Al@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Tue Feb 20 23:21:38 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2/20/24 11:00 PM, HenHanna wrote:
           is Usenet making a comeback? --  (3 Signs of growth)


    3 Signs of growth:

        There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.

               This is attributed to several factors, including:

    (1)  Disillusionment with mainstream social media:     Users seeking more privacy and less
    censorship might find Usenet appealing.

    (2)  Niche appeal:     Usenet thrives in specific areas like file sharing and technical discussions
    due to its decentralized nature and large historical archive.

    (3)  Improved accessibility:     Modern Usenet providers offer user-friendly interfaces and easier
    access compared to the past.
    Or people cross posting to 5 groups at once ups the count.
    Just look at Thunderbird, os-win10 and os-win11.
    --
    Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4
    Al

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  • From Frank Miller@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Wed Feb 21 05:28:02 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    HenHanna wrote:
    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)

    [..off topic shit removed..]

    Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
    mumble here. Thank you.

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Wed Feb 21 15:44:33 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird

    Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers

    In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
    HenHanna wrote:
    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
    [..off topic shit removed..]

    Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
    mumble here. Thank you.


    are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?

    I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
    posts :)

    Your posts may not be taken seriously due to the format.
    Please review this link to lean about formatting:

    http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

    Thanks
    John

    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to John McCue on Wed Feb 21 17:21:14 2024
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:44:33 -0000 (UTC)
    John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> wrote:

    Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers

    In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
    HenHanna wrote:
    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
    [..off topic shit removed..]

    Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
    mumble here. Thank you.


    are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?

    I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
    posts :)

    Your posts may not be taken seriously due to the format.
    Please review this link to lean about formatting:

    http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml


    I fear your good advice will come to nought; the Hen has a history of
    failing to comply to standards. Sadly it has enough nounce to be able to suirvive the GG switchoff. So no let off there.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Sam@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Wed Feb 21 14:46:32 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Sam on Wed Feb 21 15:57:40 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:46:32 -0800, Sam wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

    And who defines Aliens, lunatics and Terrorists?

    The last thing Usenet needs is to turn into some fully moderated forum. How would you do that anyway? Moderation on Usenet is "Difficult by Design"

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  • From Frank Miller@21:1/5 to John McCue on Thu Feb 22 00:20:02 2024
    John McCue wrote:
    Follow-ups trimmed to: news.software.readers

    In news.software.readers HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:28:04?PM UTC-8, Frank Miller wrote:
    HenHanna wrote:
    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)
    [..off topic shit removed..]

    Please return to your beloved Google Groups and stop sending off topic
    mumble here. Thank you.


    are you saying it's Off-Topic in the Thunderbird NG ?

    I believe Frank is referring to how you are formatting your
    posts :)

    Not the formatting but the irrelevant content. The fucked up formatting is
    just a bonus. But what could you expect from a google groups user?

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  • From Frank Miller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 02:06:07 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Sn!pe wrote:
    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is
    completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of
    Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.


    Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
    decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.

    Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
    bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and you'll be fine.

    * disregarding darknet, obvs.
    (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)

    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*

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  • From Frank Miller@21:1/5 to Sam on Thu Feb 22 02:05:26 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Sam wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.

    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Frank Miller on Wed Feb 21 23:31:24 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2/21/2024 8:06 PM, Frank Miller wrote:
    Sn!pe wrote:
    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is >>> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of >>> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.


    Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
    decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.

    Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
    bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and
    you'll be fine.

    * disregarding darknet, obvs.
    (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)

    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*


    That is a regular poster with a long history.

    Paul

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 17:57:47 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Am 22.02.24 um 16:45 schrieb Sn!pe:
    Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:
    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:00:08 -0800, HenHanna <HenHanna@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    is Usenet making a comeback?

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    It is filled with bots and people that spam flood the groups. Until it is >>>> completely moderated, we could use AI to do that, it will be the place of >>>> Alien, Lunatics and Terrorists.


    Usenet's USP is that it is the last bastion of free speech,*
    decentralised, uncensorable, owned by nobody but served by many.

    Moderation and free speech are mutually incompatible. Yes, there is
    bad behaviour, that's the way the world is. Learn to use a killfile and >>> you'll be fine.

    * disregarding darknet, obvs.
    (It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.)


    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*


    Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
    under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?

    As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
    Oh well, shit happens.

    As I wrote: You are perceived as a Troll.

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Arthur Conan Doyle@21:1/5 to Sam on Thu Feb 22 10:26:09 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:

    Usenet is DOA! Long Live Usenet!

    Usenet worked when sysadmins were gods and Usenet servers were mostly located in
    deepest, darkest academia or other research facilities. It's two greatest features were anonymity and fault resilience. Unfortunately neither have been replicated in any of the more modern platforms.

    --
    Usenet: The world's first (and best) social network.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Feb 22 23:21:07 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Paul wrote:

    Frank Miller wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    It is very dark there, you may be eaten by a grue.

    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*

    That is a regular poster with a long history.

    Yes, but watch out for that pointy beak!

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 23 08:51:46 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 23.02.24 00:37, Sn!pe wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    [...]

    Goobye sockpuppet. *plonk*


    Oh! I'm taken aback. Have we met before, Frank, maybe somewhere else
    under a different name? Have I perhaps unwittingly offended you?

    As you've *plonked* me, I don't suppose you'll see this.
    Oh well, shit happens.


    As I wrote: You are perceived as a Troll.


    Ah. One of the problems with wrestling trolls is being mistaken for
    one oneself -- lay down with dogs, get up with fleas sort of thing.
    The old adage about wrestling pigs is particularly apposite, eh?

    How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?

    Killfile you like all other Trolls.


    --
    "Manus manum lavat."

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 23 17:24:27 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 23.02.24 13:11, Sn!pe wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    [...]

    How do ~you~ get over that problem, Jörg?

    Killfile you like all other Trolls.

    I shall take that as an accolade. Goodbye.

    Your welcome!

    --
    "Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Mon Feb 26 13:34:05 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 19:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 07:17, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 05:00, HenHanna wrote:
    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)


    3 Signs of growth:

    There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.

    This is attributed to several factors, including:

    (1) Disillusionment with mainstream social media: Users seeking
    more privacy and less censorship might find Usenet appealing.

    (2) Niche appeal: Usenet thrives in specific areas like file
    sharing and technical discussions due to its decentralized nature and
    large historical archive.

    (3) Improved accessibility: Modern Usenet providers offer
    user-friendly interfaces and easier access compared to the past.

    You are completely OT in this group.

    (Excessive X-posting deleted)

    And thus it is possible he doesn't see your reply.

    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
    all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
    your reply. It is not polite.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 16:15:28 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
    all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
    your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce X-postings.

    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).


    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Feb 26 16:29:51 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2024-02-26 15:51, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 19:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 07:17, Jorg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 05:00, HenHanna wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)


    3 Signs of growth:

    There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.

    This is attributed to several factors, including:

    (1) Disillusionment with mainstream social media: Users seeking >>>>>> more privacy and less censorship might find Usenet appealing.

    (2) Niche appeal: Usenet thrives in specific areas like file
    sharing and technical discussions due to its decentralized nature and >>>>>> large historical archive.

    (3) Improved accessibility: Modern Usenet providers offer
    user-friendly interfaces and easier access compared to the past.

    You are completely OT in this group.

    (Excessive X-posting deleted)

    And thus it is possible he doesn't see your reply.

    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
    all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
    your reply. It is not polite.

    If you want to be polite, then post on topic into a newsgroup.

    It's rude to crosspost into a newsgroup you don't read, even in
    followup. Crossposting, more often than not, is a troll.

    If your followup is not on topic in each of the newsgroups in the
    crosspost, then cut the crosspost without setting Followup-To. Remember
    being taught when you were a Usenet newbie to read a newsgroup for a
    while to become familiar with what's being discussed before posting to
    it? That's especially true of crossposting.


    That's for the OP to decide, not us.



    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 16:31:07 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2024-02-26 16:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
    all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
    your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce X-postings.

    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    By answering only in the groups _you_ read you cause problems to _me_,
    which is impolite.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Mon Feb 26 17:27:48 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 26.02.24 16:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-26 15:51, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 19:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-21 07:17, Jorg Lorenz wrote:
    On 21.02.24 05:00, HenHanna wrote:

    is Usenet making a comeback? -- (3 Signs of growth)


    3 Signs of growth:

    There are indications of renewed interest in Usenet in recent years.

    This is attributed to several factors, including: >>>>>>>
    (1) Disillusionment with mainstream social media: Users seeking >>>>>>> more privacy and less censorship might find Usenet appealing.

    (2) Niche appeal: Usenet thrives in specific areas like file >>>>>>> sharing and technical discussions due to its decentralized nature and >>>>>>> large historical archive.

    (3) Improved accessibility: Modern Usenet providers offer
    user-friendly interfaces and easier access compared to the past.

    You are completely OT in this group.

    (Excessive X-posting deleted)

    And thus it is possible he doesn't see your reply.

    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to >>>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see >>> your reply. It is not polite.

    If you want to be polite, then post on topic into a newsgroup.

    It's rude to crosspost into a newsgroup you don't read, even in
    followup. Crossposting, more often than not, is a troll.

    If your followup is not on topic in each of the newsgroups in the
    crosspost, then cut the crosspost without setting Followup-To. Remember
    being taught when you were a Usenet newbie to read a newsgroup for a
    while to become familiar with what's being discussed before posting to
    it? That's especially true of crossposting.


    That's for the OP to decide, not us.

    That is always everyone's own decision but the consequences can be dire
    if someone does not stick to the accepted rules.



    --
    "Manus manum lavat."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Mon Feb 26 23:00:46 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2024-02-26 17:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 26.02.24 16:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-26 16:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to >>>>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see >>>> your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce
    X-postings.

    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    By answering only in the groups _you_ read you cause problems to _me_,
    which is impolite.

    How could I ever know that? Sorry that is utter nonsense.

    Because we have told you more than once.


    X-posts deleted

    Reinstated.



    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From D@21:1/5 to Jorg Lorenz on Tue Feb 27 04:16:47 2024
    On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:15:28 +0100, Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to
    all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.
    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see
    your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce >X-postings.
    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    anyone crossposting is probably already subscribed to each of those newsgroup(s) so they can see any non-crossposted replies within any
    of those groups; it's common netiquette to omit cross-posted groups
    from replies, so anyone crossposting that would complain about this
    routine of cutting crossposts probably has some unscrupulous agenda

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 27 08:05:06 2024
    D <J@M> Wrote in message:

    On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:15:28 +0100, Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to >>>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.
    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see >>> your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce >>X-postings.
    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    anyone crossposting is probably already subscribed to each of those newsgroup(s) so they can see any non-crossposted replies within any
    of those groups; it's common netiquette to omit cross-posted groups
    from replies, so anyone crossposting that would complain about this
    routine of cutting crossposts probably has some unscrupulous agenda

    No. If I'm reading group X and someone x-posts an interesting
    question to X, Y, and Z - Y and Z being groups I don't subscribe
    to - I don't want to have to subscribe to them just to make sure
    I see all replies.

    If someone in Z decides to only reply to Z I won't see it. Either
    reply to X, Y, Z and set followup to Z and say so - so I can
    decide to subscribe to Z to see the followups - or, better still,
    don't do it.

    Unless of course, you know that your reply is not worth reading,
    when there is an easier way ;)
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Dave Royal on Tue Feb 27 13:18:59 2024
    On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:05:06 +0000 (GMT), Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
    D <J@M> Wrote in message:
    On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:15:28 +0100, Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote: >>>Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to >>>>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time
    killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular
    thread only in one.
    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see >>>> your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce >>>X-postings.
    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    anyone crossposting is probably already subscribed to each of those
    newsgroup(s) so they can see any non-crossposted replies within any
    of those groups; it's common netiquette to omit cross-posted groups
    from replies, so anyone crossposting that would complain about this
    routine of cutting crossposts probably has some unscrupulous agenda

    No. If I'm reading group X and someone x-posts an interesting
    question to X, Y, and Z - Y and Z being groups I don't subscribe
    to - I don't want to have to subscribe to them just to make sure
    I see all replies.
    If someone in Z decides to only reply to Z I won't see it. Either
    reply to X, Y, Z and set followup to Z and say so - so I can
    decide to subscribe to Z to see the followups - or, better still,
    don't do it.
    Unless of course, you know that your reply is not worth reading,
    when there is an easier way ;)

    servers should further restrict features, prohibit crossposting altogether
    and aggressively depeer spam-heavy servers into the mercantile netherworld

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 27 22:14:49 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    On 2024-02-27 18:16, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 26.02.24 23:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-26 17:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 26.02.24 16:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-02-26 16:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 26.02.24 um 13:34 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2024-02-23 09:02, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    How stupid is it to post in more than one group and not subscribing to >>>>>>> all of them? That would justify the deletion even more. Next time >>>>>>> killfiling is an option.

    I may have subscribed all those groups, or not, yet read a particular >>>>>> thread only in one.

    By deleting some groups of a reply you risk that some people may not see >>>>>> your reply. It is not polite.

    X-posting is impolite to the highest degree!
    Only Trolls and beginners do that. The absolute minimum is to announce >>>>> X-postings.

    I answer usually only in subscribed group(s).

    By answering only in the groups _you_ read you cause problems to _me_, >>>> which is impolite.

    How could I ever know that? Sorry that is utter nonsense.

    Because we have told you more than once.

    A completely insufficient answer. *You* do not know the rules and worse
    you do not understand them.

    And your pluralis majestaetis is ricidulous to the highest degree, Troll.

    It is not majestatis, it is because several people have told you the
    same thing over the years. Troll yourself. Insults now?

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat Mar 2 10:48:15 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.usenet

    Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    That is always everyone's own decision but

    If someone is keeping tally of the votes, I'm w/ JL, AHK on this, as
    opposed to CER's, altho' I understand his argument.

    My 'balance' is that normally (w/ the exception of this particular
    xpost) I feel no obligation to 'respect' the bad decision of the OP in whichever groups he has xposted.

    My #1 'issue' is that I do NOT believe I should be posting into groups
    which I don't read/subscribe, because I DO believe that anyone has the
    right to delete any of the xposted groups they might. (So then) I do NOT
    want my 'words' being discussed later in some group I'm not subscribed
    and don't see going on 'behind my back'.


    --
    Mike Easter

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