• pan (was: Re: News reader?

    From vallor@21:1/5 to dieterhansbritz@gmail.com on Tue Aug 8 15:36:41 2023
    On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:46:26 +0200, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote in <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me>:

    I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up about
    a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it.

    I use pan on my Linux desktop at home. It does have bugs, which
    haven't bothered me enough to brush off my gdb skills from yore.

    Glad to see your post. What did you see in pan?

    (I get occasional freezing. Also, it doesn't
    handle long Newsgroups: lines properly.)

    I switched to Thunderbird
    (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice, I feel.
    Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
    What other news readers are recommended?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Wed Aug 16 12:49:07 2023
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    Marco Moock wrote:

    db wrote:

    Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?

    I remember it had a bug with a header, but it is fixed in current
    versions.

    Have you tried it again?

    No, I haven't. Also, your newsreader seems to have a bug since it's
    quoting something I haven't posted.

    I'm confused. Seems okay to me. db started a thread, and Moock replied
    to db. That's what I see. Moock cited only [part of] the OP's article.

    From: db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com>
    Message-ID: <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> >---.
    |
    From: Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> |
    References: <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> <---'

    I don't see Moock citing anything from any of your posts. His
    References header only had one MID, and it was from db's post.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Aug 16 18:43:38 2023
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    Marco Moock wrote:

    db wrote:

    Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?

    I remember it had a bug with a header, but it is fixed in current
    versions.

    Have you tried it again?

    No, I haven't. Also, your newsreader seems to have a bug since it's
    quoting something I haven't posted.

    I'm confused. Seems okay to me. db started a thread, and Moock replied
    to db. That's what I see. Moock cited only [part of] the OP's article.

    From: db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com>
    Message-ID: <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> >---.
    |
    From: Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> |
    References: <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> <---'

    I don't see Moock citing anything from any of your posts. His
    References header only had one MID, and it was from db's post.

    I think 's|b' was just confused, seeing what he thought was his screen
    name in the attribution, but it was actually 'db', not 's|b':


    Am 07.08.2023 um 15:46:26 Uhr schrieb db:
    </MM> ^^

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Fri Aug 18 21:23:23 2023
    On 16 Aug 2023 18:43:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    I think 's|b' was just confused, seeing what he thought was his screen
    name in the attribution, but it was actually 'db', not 's|b':


    Am 07.08.2023 um 15:46:26 Uhr schrieb db:
    </MM> ^^

    As usual, you are right. Apologies (to your newsreader), Marco!

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 14:40:53 2023
    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:49:07 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; VanguardLH
    <V@nguard.LH> determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <1sqktr0915i56$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Marco Moock wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= db wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I remember it had a bug with a header, but it is fixed in current
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= versions. Have you tried it again?
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= No, I haven't. Also, your newsreader seems to have a bug since it's
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= quoting something I haven't posted.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I'm confused. Seems okay to me. db started a thread, and Moock replied
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to db. That's what I see. Moock cited only [part of] the OP's
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= article.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= From: db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> Message-ID:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> >---. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= | From: Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> |
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= References: <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me> <---'
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I don't see Moock citing anything from any of your posts. His
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= References header only had one MID, and it was from db's post.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    It's because he is ha><0r.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 27 15:34:37 2023
    Sn!pe wrote:

    Ian gay <gay@sfu.ca> wrote:

    db wrote:

    I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
    up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
    to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
    as nice, I feel.
    Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
    What other news readers are recommended?

    Am I the only one in the world who uses knode? Years ago I decided I
    like it better than pan, but I don't remember the reasons.

    I really liked Knode. As KDE does, they have removed it (unsupported) and
    it's gone from Debian repos. Seems many think, "just use Thunderbird for
    news", but it's not a good newsreader in my opinion.

    I used Knode 20 years ago and liked it. I liked the original Pan of
    that time too, but the modern rewrite of Pan was too full of problems
    for me to persevere with it.

    Pan was nice, but now it doesn't show buttons on windows for me, and other problems. I've given up on Pan now.

    I'm using Sylpheed, which I like, but I find it irritating when it checks groups while you're reading a message, then that message gets marked as read, and disappears from the headers (using Show Unread). Going back to look for
    it is a pain. Other than that, it's not too bad.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Ian on Fri Oct 27 20:45:43 2023
    Ian wrote:

    Retro Guy wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Ian gay <gay@sfu.ca> wrote:

    db wrote:

    I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
    up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
    to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
    as nice, I feel.
    Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
    What other news readers are recommended?

    Am I the only one in the world who uses knode? Years ago I decided I
    like it better than pan, but I don't remember the reasons.

    I really liked Knode. As KDE does, they have removed it (unsupported)
    and it's gone from Debian repos. Seems many think, "just use
    Thunderbird for news", but it's not a good newsreader in my opinion.

    I used Knode 20 years ago and liked it. I liked the original Pan of
    that time too, but the modern rewrite of Pan was too full of problems
    for me to persevere with it.

    Pan was nice, but now it doesn't show buttons on windows for me, and
    other problems. I've given up on Pan now.

    I'm using Sylpheed, which I like, but I find it irritating when it
    checks groups while you're reading a message, then that message gets
    marked as read, and disappears from the headers (using Show Unread).
    Going back to look for it is a pain. Other than that, it's not too
    bad.


    knode is still available in Opensuse 15.5 - not in the default
    distribution, but in one of their subsidiary repositories.

    I'll have to look into that. I'd like to run it (knode) if I can, even
    just to mess with it.

    Btw, I also miss OS/2 Newsreader/2 :)

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    Retro Guy

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