• Peering problem.

    From Miner@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 26 16:37:47 2022
    Hi.

    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no
    external IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel
    feed. Any idea how to peer under such conditions?
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    Miner

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Miner on Sat Mar 26 09:44:40 2022
    Miner <john@doe.invalid> writes:

    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no external IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel feed. Any idea how
    to peer under such conditions?

    UUCP would be my recommendation, if the peer is willing to do it. The advantage of UUCP is that you can plug in whatever transport mechanism you
    can make work to get the batches from one host to another.

    --
    Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please post questions rather than mailing me directly.
    <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Miner on Sun Mar 27 00:04:34 2022
    On 3/26/22 10:37 AM, Miner wrote:
    Hi.

    Hi Miner,

    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no external
    IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel feed. Any
    idea how to peer under such conditions?

    As Russ suggested, UUCP would be an option.

    Though I'm not sure what the best method would be to get UUCP bag files attached to email and off to you. I suppose there's some room for
    automation to attach the UUCP bag files and send them.

    Do you /need/ to use email (SMTP) as the transport? Or can you connect
    out from -- I presume -- behind NAT to a server and pull data?

    There's also something like a Tor hidden service to allow peers that
    support Tor to connect to you. Or other similar VPNs.

    I'm curious and like the thought experiment about how to make this work.

    I'd be happy to peer with you, be it UUCP bag files, UUCP pull initiated
    from your end, or something else yet to be determined. -- Please send
    me an email directly so we can discuss details.



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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Miner on Sun Mar 27 09:40:24 2022
    Miner <john@doe.invalid> writes:
    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no
    external IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel
    feed. Any idea how to peer under such conditions?

    Rent a VPS for a few dollars a month and peer from that instead.

    --
    https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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  • From Miner@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Sun Mar 27 11:14:46 2022
    Grant Taylor wrote:

    On 3/26/22 10:37 AM, Miner wrote:
    Hi.

    Hi Miner,

    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no
    external IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as
    channel feed. Any idea how to peer under such conditions?

    As Russ suggested, UUCP would be an option.

    Though I'm not sure what the best method would be to get UUCP
    bag files attached to email and off to you. I suppose there's
    some room for automation to attach the UUCP bag files and send
    them.

    Do you /need/ to use email (SMTP) as the transport? Or can you
    connect out from -- I presume -- behind NAT to a server and
    pull data?

    I would like to avoid using email at all for this purpose. Most
    email services tend to impose unacceptable conditions and
    restrictions. It seems to me that Tox is more preferred as a
    channel feed solution than email. Look on FIFO based Tox client
    "ratox" https://github.com/pranomostro/ratox

    Yes, I can connect to remote server.


    There's also something like a Tor hidden service to allow peers
    that support Tor to connect to you. Or other similar VPNs.

    Good solution. Thanks to my friend you may read my message. We
    peer over I2P network.


    I'm curious and like the thought experiment about how to make
    this work.

    I'd be happy to peer with you, be it UUCP bag files, UUCP pull
    initiated from your end, or something else yet to be
    determined. -- Please send me an email directly so we can
    discuss details.

    Ok. Do you have valid GnuPG key? 9864F8EC1A79AAA0 expired since
    2018-01-01.

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    Miner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net on Sun Mar 27 12:29:40 2022
    In article <t1ouom$rm1$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>,
    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
    On 3/26/22 10:37 AM, Miner wrote:
    Hi.

    Hi Miner,

    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no external
    IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel feed. Any
    idea how to peer under such conditions?

    As Russ suggested, UUCP would be an option.

    Though I'm not sure what the best method would be to get UUCP bag files >attached to email and off to you. I suppose there's some room for
    automation to attach the UUCP bag files and send them.

    Do you /need/ to use email (SMTP) as the transport? Or can you connect
    out from -- I presume -- behind NAT to a server and pull data?

    There's also something like a Tor hidden service to allow peers that
    support Tor to connect to you. Or other similar VPNs.

    I'm curious and like the thought experiment about how to make this work.

    I'd be happy to peer with you, be it UUCP bag files, UUCP pull initiated
    from your end, or something else yet to be determined. -- Please send
    me an email directly so we can discuss details.



    UUCP over TCp should also work.


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    Grant. . . .
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  • From Miner@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Mon Mar 28 11:10:06 2022
    Richard Kettlewell wrote:

    Miner <john@doe.invalid> writes:
    Remote peer will be unable connect to my peer as I have no
    external IP address. For some reason I won't use mail as channel
    feed. Any idea how to peer under such conditions?

    Rent a VPS for a few dollars a month and peer from that instead.

    Sounds like membership fee.

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    Miner

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Miner on Mon Mar 28 13:20:55 2022
    On 3/27/22 5:14 AM, Miner wrote:
    I would like to avoid using email at all for this purpose. Most
    email services tend to impose unacceptable conditions and
    restrictions.

    I seem to have mis-read your previous post to be that you wanted to use
    email as the transport. I now re-read and see that's not the case.

    It seems to me that Tox is more preferred as a channel feed
    solution than email. Look on FIFO based Tox client "ratox" https://github.com/pranomostro/ratox

    I'm not familiar with (ra)Tox. I'll do some reading.

    Yes, I can connect to remote server.

    In that case, I believe my preference would be to use UUCP over SSH.

    Good solution. Thanks to my friend you may read my message. We peer
    over I2P network.

    I don't currently support I2P. I've looked at it in the past and am disinclined to use it.

    Ok. Do you have valid GnuPG key? 9864F8EC1A79AAA0 expired since
    2018-01-01.

    No. I prefer S/MIME over GPG when possible.




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    Grant. . . .
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  • From Miner@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Thu Mar 31 11:05:54 2022
    Grant Taylor wrote:

    I'd be happy to peer with you, be it UUCP bag files, UUCP pull
    initiated from your end, or something else yet to be
    determined. -- Please send me an email directly so we can
    discuss details.

    Tox is a best communication tool.

    A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

    gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net
    host tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [2600:3c00:e000:1e9::8849]
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>:
    550 5.7.1 <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>... Fix reverse DNS for IPv6:2a02:180:2:92:3:4:5:6

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    Miner

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Miner on Thu Mar 31 14:56:23 2022
    On 3/31/22 5:05 AM, Miner wrote:
    A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

    gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net
    host tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [2600:3c00:e000:1e9::8849]
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>:
    550 5.7.1 <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>... Fix reverse DNS for IPv6:2a02:180:2:92:3:4:5:6

    The last five words of the message tell you what you need to do.

    Fix reverse DNS for IPv6:2a02:180:2:92:3:4:5:6



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    Grant. . . .
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  • From Miner@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Fri Apr 1 07:21:04 2022
    Grant Taylor wrote:

    On 3/31/22 5:05 AM, Miner wrote:
    host tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net
    [2600:3c00:e000:1e9::8849]
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT

    The last five words of the message tell you what you need to do.
    Fix reverse DNS for IPv6:2a02:180:2:92:3:4:5:6

    I already wrote to admin. No reaction from remote side.

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    Miner

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