• Re: A good criterion for detecting new googlegroups virus-download spam

    From D@21:1/5 to Olivier Miakinen on Tue Dec 5 14:22:09 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 13:38:02 +0100, Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net> wrote:
    For the past few days I've been actively chasing the new spams originated >from Google groups, all with a link to download a .zip or .rar file, most >probably a virus. I do it on fr.* french-speaking hierarchy because I am
    a French man (also please excuse me if I do mistakes in English).
    Yesterday, Pierre Pallier has pointed out on fr.usenet.abus.d that all these >spams end with a kind of signature. He noticed it on alt.* newsgroups, but
    I checked the exact same thing on fr.* newsgroups.
    In brief, the very last line of all these spams is:
    " 35727fac0c" from November the 22nd to November the 28th;
    " eebf2c3492" after, up to today.
    Maybe another signature could occur from time to time, but it changes way >less frequently that From header or Subject header. Of course it requires
    to download the whole body and not only the headers before deciding that
    it is a spam (that is why my own robot can not rely on that criterion),
    but maybe it can help other guys here including newsmasters.

    i am not a server administrator but
    filtering out google is recommended:

    path: ...googlegroups.com
    injection-info: ...googlegroups.com
    message-id: ...googlegroups.com
    references: ...googlegroups.com

    it's also recommended to post using
    nntp or at least non-google servers

    google could stop their google2news
    gateway to atone in the xmas spirit

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  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 14:19:24 2023
    Hello D,

    Le 05/12/2023 14:22, D a écrit :

    i am not a server administrator but
    filtering out google is recommended:

    path: ...googlegroups.com
    injection-info: ...googlegroups.com
    message-id: ...googlegroups.com
    references: ...googlegroups.com


    Ok, so you would choose to filter out not only what comes from Google (spam
    and non-spam) but also the responses (via the header References).

    Any other reactions to my proposal ?

    Or maybe my message was already filtered out by the detection of the strings
    " 35...0c" and " ee...92", so that nobody else has seen it before?

    --
    Olivier Miakinen

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 16:32:42 2023
    Thus spake Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net>

    Ok, so you would choose to filter out not only what comes from Google (spam and non-spam) but also the responses (via the header References).

    Any other reactions to my proposal ?

    Or maybe my message was already filtered out by the detection of the strings " 35...0c" and " ee...92", so that nobody else has seen it before?

    Chances are that some of the nocemizers have already been filtering on
    10 character hex strings as the only non-whitespace content of a line ;-).

    BTW: I have also noted other hex strings than the two you quoted
    and I found hints that these strings might be passwords for the
    zip and rar archives that are advertised in the postings.
    Haven't bothered to test this.

    --
    ПуÌтін — хуйлоÌ
    http://www.eternal-september.org

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  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 17:34:07 2023
    Le 06/12/2023 16:32, Ray Banana a écrit :

    Or maybe my message was already filtered out by the detection of the strings >> " 35...0c" and " ee...92", so that nobody else has seen it before?

    Chances are that some of the nocemizers have already been filtering on
    10 character hex strings as the only non-whitespace content of a line ;-).

    Ok, so the fact was already known. Sorry that I haven't read the articles that talked about that.

    BTW: I have also noted other hex strings than the two you quoted

    Ok.

    and I found hints that these strings might be passwords for the
    zip and rar archives that are advertised in the postings.
    Haven't bothered to test this.

    I tried once to click on one of the links, and a message said that the
    password for the .rar was 1234. Indeed the password 1234 worked, and
    the archive contained one .exe and several .dll. Of course I did not
    go further.

    --
    Olivier Miakinen

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  • From llp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 19:35:16 2023
    Ray Banana a présenté l'énoncé suivant :
    Thus spake Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net>

    Ok, so you would choose to filter out not only what comes from Google (spam >> and non-spam) but also the responses (via the header References).

    Any other reactions to my proposal ?

    Or maybe my message was already filtered out by the detection of the strings >> " 35...0c" and " ee...92", so that nobody else has seen it before?

    Chances are that some of the nocemizers have already been filtering on
    10 character hex strings as the only non-whitespace content of a line ;-).

    The line begins with a space followed by the code.
    On the last or penultimate line of the message.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Olivier Miakinen on Wed Dec 6 20:46:19 2023
    On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 14:19:24 +0100, Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net> wrote:
    Hello D,
    Le 05/12/2023 14:22, D a ecrit :
    i am not a server administrator but
    filtering out google is recommended:
    path: ...googlegroups.com
    injection-info: ...googlegroups.com
    message-id: ...googlegroups.com
    references: ...googlegroups.com

    Ok, so you would choose to filter out not only what comes from Google (spam >and non-spam) but also the responses (via the header References).

    spam seems to be a normal percentage of content posted to unmoderated
    usenet newsgroups from many thousands of different sources, the price
    of free speech, a small cost which experienced newsgroup participants
    find acceptable; however, what is popularly called googlespam appears
    to be systematic and orchestrated around the usenet world; oftentimes
    replies to googlespam articles quote all or part of the original spam
    and are sometimes posted from non-google servers working in collusion

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  • From Franck@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 8 07:49:17 2023
    Hello,

    Chances are that some of the nocemizers have already been filtering on
    10 character hex strings as the only non-whitespace content of a line
    ;-).

    The line begins with a space followed by the code.
    On the last or penultimate line of the message.

    I'm not interested in the subject but perhaps adding [> \t]* to the
    beginning of the regex will do the trick, even if the line is quoted in
    the future?

    Franck

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  • From yamo'@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 11 11:21:12 2023
    Hi,
    Franck a tapoté le 08/12/2023 07:49:
    I'm not interested in the subject but perhaps adding [> \t]* to the
    beginning of the regex will do the trick, even if the line is quoted in
    the future?

    Thanks for your advice.


    I use it.

    --
    Stéphane

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  • From llp@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 22:57:43 2023
    yamo' a émis l'idée suivante :
    Hi,
    Franck a tapoté le 08/12/2023 07:49:
    I'm not interested in the subject but perhaps adding [> \t]* to the
    beginning of the regex will do the trick, even if the line is quoted in
    the future?

    Thanks for your advice.


    I use it.

    Three others: a8ba361960, d8cbe59d7d et 0aad45d008

    The latest joins the daily spam wave

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