• Re: Fediverse = ActivityPub and NNTP

    From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid on Tue Jul 11 14:48:26 2023
    Thinking about it, is very easy to integrate, since activitypub
    follows regulat internet/network standards so one could ping from
    mastodon a usenet group like:
    @news.software.nntp@news.eternal-september.org

    so instead of "@name" will be "@newsgroup" @ nntp server

    just thinking out loud.

    On 2023-07-11, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    I can't reply to the on-going thread since this is my new nntp/inn2
    server and do not have the history, but today I found someone active
    working on an activitypub(fediverse based protocol) and
    NNTP https://koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/
    Maybe if the person reads this forum can explain his work so we can help

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2


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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 14:42:56 2023
    I can't reply to the on-going thread since this is my new nntp/inn2
    server and do not have the history, but today I found someone active
    working on an activitypub(fediverse based protocol) and
    NNTP https://koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/
    Maybe if the person reads this forum can explain his work so we can help

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2
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  • From news@zzo38computer.org.invalid@21:1/5 to rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid on Tue Jul 11 11:32:20 2023
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    Thinking about it, is very easy to integrate, since activitypub
    follows regulat internet/network standards so one could ping from
    mastodon a usenet group like:
    @news.software.nntp@news.eternal-september.org

    so instead of "@name" will be "@newsgroup" @ nntp server

    I think that, if you want to try this, probably should be making the bridged newsgroups read-only on ActivityPub/Mastodon (at least for now) if they
    are bridged at all. (However, I do not believe that it will really work very well; the format is significantly different. However, you could, if you want to, make the ActivityPub "source" field contain the original message
    (converted to quoted printable if it is not UTF-8 or pure ASCII) and then convert it to HTML for the main part of the ActivityPub message.)

    If you have a NNTP server with your own newsgroups (not part of the Usenet hierarchies), then you could make two way bridging with the newsgroups
    which are specifically designed to be bridged with NNTP. It might be helpful
    so that a discussion forum is available on both protocols, in this case.

    However, naming a NNTP server is unlikely to help unless a ActivityPub client and server understand the use of NNTP servers, or if it is a NNTP server that already implements both protocols (which might be the case for a discussion forum outside of the main Usenet hierarchies which has been specifically set
    up to be used in this way, as described in the previous paragraph).

    (My opinion is that NNTP is much better, and that ActivityPub is complicated and messy and has problems like is common in W3C documents. My opinion is also that Unicode is no good.)

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