• naming concept of newsgroups

    From hurst@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 18:18:45 2022
    Was wondering who came up with the dots in a newsgroup? Is it hard coded
    and how do you prevent hierarchies from being taken over? Was wondering
    why they never used colons dashes or even pound signs? Does a newsgroup
    always have to have a dot in between it or does it always have to have
    two or more levels in it? I'm really loving this tech way better than
    web forums.

    ****Seth M 26 USA****

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to hurst on Tue Aug 9 17:30:51 2022
    hurst <seth@home.sethhurst.com> writes:

    Was wondering who came up with the dots in a newsgroup?

    I think it dates back to the original A News, so presumably Steve Daniel
    and Tom Truscott back in 1980. (Small bit of trivia: there used to be a distinction between the local newsgroup "general" and the distributed
    newsgroup "NET.general", and the NET was in all caps.)

    B News in 1981 introduced the current lowercase naming scheme, although
    net.* (and, later, mod.*) were used for quite some time until the Great Renaming.

    Is it hard coded and how do you prevent hierarchies from being taken
    over?

    I don't know what "taken over" means here.

    Was wondering why they never used colons dashes or even pound signs?

    I'm not sure why "NET." was picked as the prefix insead of some other punctuation. A News predates DNS, so it's not by analogy for domain
    names, I don't think. Maybe periods were just in the air.

    Does a newsgroup always have to have a dot in between it or does it
    always have to have two or more levels in it?

    It doesn't have to have a dot. All news software that I'm aware of will
    cope with newsgroup names with no periods in them. However, much of the configuration for processing control messages and choosing which messages
    to send to peers is based on hierarchies.

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  • From hurst@21:1/5 to Russ Allbery on Wed Aug 10 05:07:21 2022
    On 8/9/22 20:30, Russ Allbery wrote:
    hurst <seth@home.sethhurst.com> writes:

    Was wondering who came up with the dots in a newsgroup?

    I think it dates back to the original A News, so presumably Steve Daniel
    and Tom Truscott back in 1980. (Small bit of trivia: there used to be a distinction between the local newsgroup "general" and the distributed newsgroup "NET.general", and the NET was in all caps.)

    B News in 1981 introduced the current lowercase naming scheme, although
    net.* (and, later, mod.*) were used for quite some time until the Great Renaming.

    Is it hard coded and how do you prevent hierarchies from being taken
    over?

    I don't know what "taken over" means here.

    Was wondering why they never used colons dashes or even pound signs?

    I'm not sure why "NET." was picked as the prefix insead of some other punctuation. A News predates DNS, so it's not by analogy for domain
    names, I don't think. Maybe periods were just in the air.

    Does a newsgroup always have to have a dot in between it or does it
    always have to have two or more levels in it?

    It doesn't have to have a dot. All news software that I'm aware of will
    cope with newsgroup names with no periods in them. However, much of the configuration for processing control messages and choosing which messages
    to send to peers is based on hierarchies.


    Hey Russ just wanted to say I liked the little story you wrote on your
    website. too bad there was only two chapters.

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