• Posting anonymously

    From Anonymous@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 31 20:25:02 2015
    What is the convention for email address?
    Can I leave it out entirely?
    Can I leave the From header out entirely?

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  • From Whiskers@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sun Nov 1 20:45:02 2015
    On 2015-10-31, Anonymous <user@example.net> wrote:
    What is the convention for email address?
    Can I leave it out entirely?
    Can I leave the From header out entirely?

    It isn't a good idea to insert fake AIOE headers when posting via some
    other NSP (in this instance, Albasani). At the very least you risk
    clashing with a genuine AIOE Message-ID and so disrupting propagation of articles.

    You can't post without a From header, which has to include an email
    address in a valid format. Don't use an email address or domain name
    that you aren't entitled to use. If you don't want to create a free
    disposable email address just for your usenet articles (you don't even
    need to read the emails you get) then invent an email address which ends
    with .invalid - this will tell other people and their email programs
    that the address is invalid so no-one will waste time trying to contact
    it. <http://individual.net/faq.php#5.3>

    There are many levels of "anonymity". Using a name that isn't on your
    birth certificate and a .invalid email address is barely scratching the surface.

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  • From Peter J Ross@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sun Nov 1 20:45:02 2015
    In news.newusers.questions on Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC),
    Anonymous wrote:

    What is the convention for email address?
    Can I leave it out entirely?
    Can I leave the From header out entirely?

    The From: line is mandatory, and must contain a validly-formed email
    address (genuine or not). Otherwise you won't be able to post unless
    you find a very badly configured news server. Even then, other news
    servers will probably drop the posts, so you won't get any readers.

    If you're not willing to use an email address that belongs to you, you
    can make something up, but it should end in the string ".invalid" to
    ensure that nobody tries to reply to you by email and that you don't accidentally forge a real or potentially real address. (These
    objections apply even to example.com and example.net. The domain
    owners probably won't complain about the forgery, but people may still
    try to email you and wonder why they don't get replies.)

    This is an acceptable form:
    From: anonymous <anonymous@example.invalid>

    But you should use a distinctive string rather than "anonymous" if you
    don't want to fall foul of killfiles. Some people ignore all anonymous
    posts, because most anonymous posts contain nothing but off-topic
    rubbish.


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    PJR :-)

    τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
    - Democritus

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  • From ~BD~@21:1/5 to Peter J Ross on Wed Nov 4 23:00:02 2015
    On 01/11/2015 20:45, Peter J Ross wrote:
    In news.newusers.questions on Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous wrote:

    What is the convention for email address?
    Can I leave it out entirely?
    Can I leave the From header out entirely?

    The From: line is mandatory, and must contain a validly-formed email
    address (genuine or not). Otherwise you won't be able to post unless
    you find a very badly configured news server. Even then, other news
    servers will probably drop the posts, so you won't get any readers.

    If you're not willing to use an email address that belongs to you, you
    can make something up, but it should end in the string ".invalid" to
    ensure that nobody tries to reply to you by email and that you don't accidentally forge a real or potentially real address. (These
    objections apply even to example.com and example.net. The domain
    owners probably won't complain about the forgery, but people may still
    try to email you and wonder why they don't get replies.)

    This is an acceptable form:
    From: anonymous <anonymous@example.invalid>

    But you should use a distinctive string rather than "anonymous" if you
    don't want to fall foul of killfiles. Some people ignore all anonymous
    posts, because most anonymous posts contain nothing but off-topic
    rubbish.

    Hello Peter

    When I first started using Usenet it was suggested that I use what you
    see in the email address which I've used in THIS post of mine.

    Are you aware of such a convention, or should I use "invalid" as you
    suggest?

    David B.

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  • From Whiskers@21:1/5 to Whiskers on Mon Nov 2 04:30:02 2015
    On 2015-11-01, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
    On 2015-10-31, Anonymous <user@example.net> wrote:
    What is the convention for email address?
    Can I leave it out entirely?
    Can I leave the From header out entirely?

    It isn't a good idea to insert fake AIOE headers when posting via some
    other NSP (in this instance, Albasani). At the very least you risk
    clashing with a genuine AIOE Message-ID and so disrupting propagation of articles.

    Oops! Scratch that paragraph - I forgot this is a moderated group.

    You can't post without a From header, which has to include an email
    address in a valid format. Don't use an email address or domain name
    that you aren't entitled to use. If you don't want to create a free disposable email address just for your usenet articles (you don't even
    need to read the emails you get) then invent an email address which ends
    with .invalid - this will tell other people and their email programs
    that the address is invalid so no-one will waste time trying to contact
    it. <http://individual.net/faq.php#5.3>

    There are many levels of "anonymity". Using a name that isn't on your
    birth certificate and a .invalid email address is barely scratching the surface.



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    -- Whiskers
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  • From Kathy Morgan@21:1/5 to ~BD~@nomail.afraid.org on Thu Nov 5 06:10:02 2015
    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 01/11/2015 20:45, Peter J Ross wrote:

    The From: line is mandatory, and must contain a validly-formed email address (genuine or not). Otherwise you won't be able to post unless
    you find a very badly configured news server. Even then, other news
    servers will probably drop the posts, so you won't get any readers.

    If you're not willing to use an email address that belongs to you, you
    can make something up, but it should end in the string ".invalid" to
    ensure that nobody tries to reply to you by email and that you don't accidentally forge a real or potentially real address. (These
    objections apply even to example.com and example.net. The domain
    owners probably won't complain about the forgery, but people may still
    try to email you and wonder why they don't get replies.)

    This is an acceptable form:
    From: anonymous <anonymous@example.invalid>

    But you should use a distinctive string rather than "anonymous" if you don't want to fall foul of killfiles. Some people ignore all anonymous posts, because most anonymous posts contain nothing but off-topic
    rubbish.

    Hello Peter

    When I first started using Usenet it was suggested that I use what you
    see in the email address which I've used in THIS post of mine.

    Are you aware of such a convention, or should I use "invalid" as you
    suggest?

    You should definitely use the "invalid" as Peter suggested.

    We are aware of that convention, but as Peter said, any time you are
    using an address, even a fake one, that doesn't belong to you, you
    should append ".invalid" to the end. That would change your string to <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org.invalid> or <~BD~@nomail.afraid.invalid>

    --
    Kathy (posting with a valid address)

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