• Re: Please do something about the spam

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Mon Nov 20 02:59:58 2023
    I refuse to post in the moderated group.

    Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:

    The Big-8 newsgroups are being swamped with spam. Please, do something about the spam.

    Now comes the part where someone makes excuses and tells me to get a newsreader that can filter out the spam, so I can that no one posts here anymore because usenet is a spam ridden hole.

    Do something.

    1. Makes yourselves the default moderators and implement some simple generic spam filters. You don't have to get involved in policing off topic posts and flame wars.

    Moderation sucks as a spam countermeasure.

    2. Find real moderators for groups. Some are easy.
    comp.os.msdos.djgpp and comp.lang.python are mirrors of mailing
    lists. Make the mailing list admins the moderators.

    You can't just proclaim "There shall be moderators for unmoderated
    Usenet!" We have hundreds -- HUNDREDS -- of moderated newsgroups that
    cannot be posted to for lack of moderators.

    3. Complain. Contact news servers that inject too much spam.
    Complain to Google about Google Groups. They might listen to an
    official complaint from the Big-8.

    Why? They bought Deja then ruined newsgroups. They don't maintain the
    indexing mechanism so newsgroup search fails. They don't care that they
    are the spam source. They are incapable of injecting articles into
    Usenet that are conventional. They encode which is obnoxiously vile.

    4. Issue a statement to news server providers asking them to block
    news servers that inject too much spam.

    That's called the Usenet Death Penalty. They are either passive or
    active. No one has given a shit in decades.

    5. Supply spam filters to new servers and issue updates the way
    anti-malware software does.

    They are being supplied. A four-person group has been implementing spam countermeasures and creating NoCeMs. NoCeMs are offered for any News
    server to process locally.

    They don't catch it all. It's real work keeping up with all changing
    spam tactics.

    Please do something.

    Thank you

    You could ask your News administrator to process the NoCeMs. Why haven't
    you yet done so?

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 20 08:32:33 2023
    Am 20.11.2023 um 02:59:58 Uhr schrieb Adam H. Kerman:

    They don't catch it all. It's real work keeping up with all changing
    spam tactics.

    It is rather interesting to see which IP ranges they use. Blocking all
    google posts from that ranges or even entire ASN can be a good idea and
    should include much of it.

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