• Current Big-8 Moderated Groups with no moderator

    From Jason Evans@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 18 11:06:19 2023
    If you're interested in moderating a newsgroup and you've never done it
    before, take a look at Russ Allbery's Pitfalls of Newsgroups Moderation.
    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html

    If you have moderated before, you already have access to moderation
    software and a Usenet server that will allow you to send moderated
    messages AND you want to moderate another one, then please email us at board@big-8.org.

    Jason Evans

    comp.binaries.cbm
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    comp.internet.library
    comp.lang.c.moderated
    comp.newprod
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    comp.robotics.research
    comp.simulation
    comp.sources.games
    comp.std.announce
    comp.sys.amiga.announce
    comp.sys.sun.announce
    comp.sys.wearables
    humanities.philosophy.objectivism
    misc.activism.progressive
    misc.business.consulting
    misc.business.marketing.moderated
    misc.business.moderated
    misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
    misc.writing.screenplays.moderated
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    rec.arts.sf.announce
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    rec.boats.marketplace
    rec.crafts.jewelry
    rec.drugs.announce
    rec.food.cuisine.jewish
    rec.food.recipes
    rec.gardens.ecosystems
    rec.humor.funny
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    rec.music.beatles.info
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    rec.music.promotional
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    rec.pets.dogs.info
    rec.pets.ferrets
    rec.photo.moderated
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    sci.aeronautics
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    sci.chem.organic.synthesis
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    sci.military.moderated
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    soc.religion.mormon
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    soc.sexuality.spanking
    soc.support.loneliness

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Jason Evans on Sat Feb 18 11:54:19 2023
    Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> wrote:

    If you're interested in moderating a newsgroup and you've never done it >before, take a look at Russ Allbery's Pitfalls of Newsgroups Moderation.
    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html

    If you have moderated before, you already have access to moderation
    software and a Usenet server that will allow you to send moderated
    messages AND you want to moderate another one, then please email us at >board@big-8.org.

    Jason Evans

    Jason, there is no point in re-assigning moderation duties UNLESS the
    volunteer moderator is willing to present a small team AND a moderator succession policy. For decades, it's been made all too clear that one
    moderator working all by himself is a single point of failure that will inevitably lead to the group becoming unusable.

    You should include the alt.* groups as well although there's no
    legitimate way to re-assign moderators. Making the list all inclusive
    might dissuade any future proponent from suggesting moderation.

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    comp.sys.sun.announce
    comp.sys.wearables
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    misc.business.moderated
    misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
    misc.writing.screenplays.moderated
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    rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated
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    rec.crafts.jewelry
    rec.drugs.announce
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    rec.gardens.ecosystems
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    rec.humor.funny.reruns
    rec.music.beatles.info
    rec.music.beatles.moderated
    rec.music.gaffa
    rec.music.info
    rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature
    rec.music.promotional
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    rec.pets.dogs.info
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    sci.bio.evolution
    sci.bio.phytopathology
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    sci.econ.research
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    sci.nanotech
    sci.physics.foundations
    sci.physics.strings
    sci.space.moderated
    sci.space.news
    soc.adoption.adoptees
    soc.atheism
    soc.culture.african.american.moderated

    Talk about violating naming conventions

    soc.culture.basque
    soc.culture.belarus
    soc.culture.galiza
    soc.culture.hawaii
    soc.culture.indian.goa
    soc.culture.jewish.parenting
    soc.culture.kuwait.moderated
    soc.culture.turkish.moderated
    soc.feminism
    soc.genealogy.african
    soc.genealogy.surnames.britain
    soc.genealogy.surnames.canada
    soc.genealogy.surnames.german
    soc.genealogy.surnames.global
    soc.genealogy.surnames.misc
    soc.genealogy.surnames.usa
    soc.history.moderated

    This group failed? I thought it was well used.

    soc.personals
    soc.politics
    soc.politics.marxism
    soc.religion.asatru

    Oh gawd, this was another one of those trollish proposals like the
    moderated groups for the socmen and pondscum that was a total
    embarassment for the hierarchy administrators. I think this actually
    happened AFTER news.groups.moderated was started but Peter J. Ross will remember better.

    soc.religion.bahai
    soc.religion.hindu
    soc.religion.mormon
    soc.religion.paganism
    soc.sexuality.spanking
    soc.support.loneliness

    The loneliness newsgroup lacks a moderator? That's ironic.

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  • From Germanator vs. Kerman the German -@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Feb 18 10:18:57 2023
    On 2/18/23 05:54, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> wrote:

    If you're interested in moderating a newsgroup and you've never done it
    before, take a look at Russ Allbery's Pitfalls of Newsgroups Moderation.
    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html

    If you have moderated before, you already have access to moderation
    software and a Usenet server that will allow you to send moderated
    messages AND you want to moderate another one, then please email us at
    board@big-8.org.

    Jason Evans

    Jason, there is no point in re-assigning moderation duties UNLESS the volunteer moderator is willing to present a small team AND a moderator succession policy. For decades, it's been made all too clear that one moderator working all by himself is a single point of failure that will inevitably lead to the group becoming unusable.

    And then when the group becomes unusable, Kerman the German will oppose
    and criticize any and all attempts to make it usable again. He is Mr.
    "adjourne sina dia."

    You should include the alt.* groups as well although there's no
    legitimate way to re-assign moderators. Making the list all inclusive
    might dissuade any future proponent from suggesting moderation.

    Typical Kerman the German bureaucracy. "If you can't do it perfectly
    with forever guarantees, you should sit on your hands and do nothing at
    all, but do demonstrate your technical and historical knowledge while
    doing nothing." Don't move forward. Just explain why everybody and
    nobody and even Parzival should do nothing, and stick to that position
    like a tap root.

    However Kerman's suggestion that the Big Eight should meddle with the
    alt.* hierarchy will only cause more friction and confusion. This is a
    German paper-pusher's dream!

    Of course there is no legitimate way to re-assign moderators. It's ad
    hoc, impromptu, "let's all figure it out together" kind of system.
    Different server operators can do different things, or agree to do the
    same things with management of a group in the alt.* hierarchy.

    The ad-hoc system works great on Mastodon and ActivityPub systems.
    Millions of people are using these systems now without Kerman the
    German's sage lordship telling them a festering problem is better than
    an imperfect solution.

    We don't need Newszatsgruppen Bambi Ding Dongs or News Waffen Yes Yes
    men stepping in to call the shots. Kerman the German is trying to play
    you for suckers. He is staging a "binARYAN BITzkrieg" to pwn all your
    binary.

    Herr Kerman is stealthily trying to convert you into his vassal.

    --

    The Germanator
    De-racinating Kerman the German and his Binaryan Bitzkrieg

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  • From D Finnigan@21:1/5 to Bitzkrieg on Tue Feb 21 07:56:22 2023
    On 2/18/23 10:18 AM, Germanator vs. Kerman the German - Binaryan
    Bitzkrieg wrote:
    On 2/18/23 05:54, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> wrote:

    If you're interested in moderating a newsgroup and you've never done it
    before, take a look at Russ Allbery's Pitfalls of Newsgroups Moderation. >>> => https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html

    If you have moderated before, you already have access to moderation
    software and a Usenet server that will allow you to send moderated
    messages AND you want to moderate another one, then please email us at
    board@big-8.org.

    Jason Evans

    Jason, there is no point in re-assigning moderation duties UNLESS the
    volunteer moderator is willing to present a small team AND a moderator
    succession policy.



    Herr Kerman is stealthily trying to convert you into his vassal.


    You should moderate rec.humor.funny

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    On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 1:06:22 PM UTC+2, Jason Evans wrote:
    If you're interested in moderating a newsgroup and you've never done it before, take a look at Russ Allbery's Pitfalls of Newsgroups Moderation.
    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/mod-pitfalls.html

    If you have moderated before, you already have access to moderation
    software and a Usenet server that will allow you to send moderated
    messages AND you want to moderate another one, then please email us at bo...@big-8.org.

    Jason Evans

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    soc.support.loneliness

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