• Re: RFD: comp.lang.go

    From Syber Shock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 17:46:42 2023
    I agree with this new group being created. I will mirror it in my web
    archive where I have already added the groups 'comp.lang.go' and 'comp.lang.rust'. I have copied the RFD to my archive. See these links:

    https://sybershock.com/forum/random/ https://sybershock.com/forum/random/thread.php?group=comp.lang.go https://sybershock.com/forum/random/article-flat.php?id=1&group=comp.lang.go#1

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  • From a cat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 5 17:46:44 2023
    On 7/4/23 12:34 PM, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated comp.lang.go group

    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    - The Go programming language

    DISTRIBUTION:
    - news.announce.newgroups
    - news.groups.proposals
    - comp.lang.misc

    I will also put a notice on the matrix golang room

    PROPONENT:
    Name: ReK2
    Email: rek2@hispagatos.org
    blog gemini: gemini://rek2.hispagatos.org

    RATIONALE:
    - On usenet at the moment there are only computer programming languages that
    were around the 80's and 90'spamdto be able to bring more people
    and keep there new comers to usenet we need updated groupswhere
    where people will find interesting to log in on a daily basis.


    CHARTER:
    - comp.lang.go will be a unmoderated group, people
    interested in the GO programming language
    can share ideas and topics, help eachother and keep up
    with interesting projects and news related to
    the go programming language

    CHANGE HISTORY:
    2023-07-04 1st RFD.


    I am in support.

    I also want to bring up the point that the prevailing philosophy seems
    to be that the support should come first, then the room. I think this is
    a fine philosophy, but I wanted to bring up that sometimes people don't participate because they do a search for their "thing" (e.g. go), don't
    find it, and don't know where else to post.

    It can be helpful to have a beacon.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to a cat on Tue Jul 18 12:10:33 2023
    a cat <a_cat@example.com> wrote:
    I am in support.

    +1. I would likely subscribe to such a group, although I don't really know enough about Go to contribute.

    I also want to bring up the point that the prevailing philosophy seems
    to be that the support should come first, then the room. I think this is
    a fine philosophy, but I wanted to bring up that sometimes people don't participate because they do a search for their "thing" (e.g. go), don't
    find it, and don't know where else to post.

    That's true. In this case 'Go' is a somewhat unhelpful term to search for (hence it's variously called 'golang') but I think comp.lang.go is the right name.

    It can be helpful to have a beacon.

    Judging by the groups created in recent years that I've subscribed to, they
    all have decent levels of traffic, mostly on-topic, although the quality of
    the traffic can vary. So it seems like 'build it and they will come' works
    to some degree, at Usenet's current level of usage anyway.

    Groups for topics which are big outside Usenet do seem to pick up some legitimate traffic just by existing, at least enough to validate the
    effort in creating them IMHO.

    Theo

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  • From Tristan Miller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 06:55:52 2023
    Greetings.

    On 2023-07-04 20:34, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated comp.lang.go group


    The response to the RFD (at least in this thread) has been uniformly
    positive, though it has so far attracted only three responses. I note
    that there has been some ancillary discussion of the proposed group in
    the previous, pre-RFD thread at <news:t20mgj$tjt$1@dont-email.me>.

    In light of the newsgroup creation guide at <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup> and the
    FAQ at <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Newsgroup_Creation_FAQ>, the
    proponent may wish to consider what steps to take next. Some options:

    1. Renew efforts to publicize this ongoing RFD in hopes of attracting
    further participants.

    2. Issue a second RFD here, with revisions arising from the discussions
    up until now, and make an effort to publicize it.

    3. Ask the Board if they agree that it is time to end the discussion,
    and if so, submit a final RFD to the Board so that they can issue a
    final call for comments before their vote.

    4. Formally withdraw the RFD.

    If the proponent takes no action, the Board may eventually consider the
    RFD to be abandoned, in which case it will be ignored or rejected.

    Regards,
    Tristan

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Thu Jul 20 20:51:22 2023
    On 2023-07-20, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Greetings.

    On 2023-07-04 20:34, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
    unmoderated comp.lang.go group


    The response to the RFD (at least in this thread) has been uniformly positive, though it has so far attracted only three responses. I note
    that there has been some ancillary discussion of the proposed group in
    the previous, pre-RFD thread at <news:t20mgj$tjt$1@dont-email.me>.

    In light of the newsgroup creation guide at
    <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup> and the
    FAQ at <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Newsgroup_Creation_FAQ>, the
    proponent may wish to consider what steps to take next. Some options:

    1. Renew efforts to publicize this ongoing RFD in hopes of attracting
    further participants.

    2. Issue a second RFD here, with revisions arising from the discussions
    up until now, and make an effort to publicize it.

    I do not know if others think is ready or not, but we can do a second
    revision if people think there should be any changes but if no changes,
    we could do a final one?

    I saw at least 5-6 positive reactions, of people that will read or agree
    with the creation of it at some point.
    Def I do not want to abandon it :)


    Thanks
    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

    Regards,
    Tristan



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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid on Fri Jul 28 14:05:04 2023
    Should I write the second RFD ? or how should be follow up?

    Thanks
    ReK2

    On 2023-07-21, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-07-20, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Greetings.

    On 2023-07-04 20:34, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
    unmoderated comp.lang.go group


    The response to the RFD (at least in this thread) has been uniformly
    positive, though it has so far attracted only three responses. I note
    that there has been some ancillary discussion of the proposed group in
    the previous, pre-RFD thread at <news:t20mgj$tjt$1@dont-email.me>.

    In light of the newsgroup creation guide at >><https://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup> and the
    FAQ at <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Newsgroup_Creation_FAQ>, the
    proponent may wish to consider what steps to take next. Some options:

    1. Renew efforts to publicize this ongoing RFD in hopes of attracting
    further participants.

    2. Issue a second RFD here, with revisions arising from the discussions
    up until now, and make an effort to publicize it.

    I do not know if others think is ready or not, but we can do a second revision if people think there should be any changes but if no changes,
    we could do a final one?

    I saw at least 5-6 positive reactions, of people that will read or agree
    with the creation of it at some point.
    Def I do not want to abandon it :)


    Thanks
    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

    Regards,
    Tristan





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  • From NerdRat Hispagatos@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Jul 29 14:52:32 2023
    On 2023-07-18, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    a cat <a_cat@example.com> wrote:
    I am in support.

    +1. I would likely subscribe to such a group, although I don't really know enough about Go to contribute.

    +1. Count me in, I would gladly subscribe and contribute to the group. I haven't coded much in it lately, but if this proposal is accepted I will
    share my experiences while exploring it again.

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  • From yeti@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 15:42:03 2023
    So far I don't like Go, but maybe c.l.go can change that. So I'm
    planning to at least read c.l.go for a while.

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  • From Tristan Miller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 10:41:27 2023
    Greetings.

    On 2023-07-28 22:05, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    Should I write the second RFD ? or how should be follow up?


    That depends on whether the discussions have given you reason to want to
    update the content of the RfD. If so, then yes, feel free to issue a
    second RfD incorporating the necessary revisions.

    If, on the other hand, you see no need to revise the content of the RfD,
    then you can e-mail the Big-8 Management Board to ask them to issue a
    final call for comments, after which the Board will vote on the RfD.

    Regards,
    Tristan

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Fri Aug 4 16:54:28 2023
    On 2023-08-04, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Greetings.

    On 2023-07-28 22:05, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    Should I write the second RFD ? or how should be follow up?


    That depends on whether the discussions have given you reason to want to update the content of the RfD. If so, then yes, feel free to issue a
    second RfD incorporating the necessary revisions.

    If, on the other hand, you see no need to revise the content of the RfD,
    then you can e-mail the Big-8 Management Board to ask them to issue a
    final call for comments, after which the Board will vote on the RfD.

    Regards,
    Tristan

    Thanks Tristan,
    I really did not hear any complain regarthing the original RFD, other
    than maybe Changing Go to go or viceversa.

    I guess the email address is on the big-8 website right? I will take a
    look this weekend and send it.

    Thanks, let me know if there is anything else I should take in
    consideration.

    ReK2
    Happy Hacking

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  • From Xenophon@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 1 09:44:51 2023
    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 14:34:47 EDT, rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated comp.lang.go group

    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    - The Go programming language

    Obviously needs to exist.

    In favour.

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  • From horeszko@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 1 14:44:00 2023
    On 7/4/23 14:34, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    unmoderated group comp.lang.go

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated comp.lang.go group

    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    - The Go programming language

    DISTRIBUTION:
    - news.announce.newgroups
    - news.groups.proposals
    - comp.lang.misc

    I will also put a notice on the matrix golang room

    PROPONENT:
    Name: ReK2
    Email: rek2@hispagatos.org
    blog gemini: gemini://rek2.hispagatos.org

    RATIONALE:
    - On usenet at the moment there are only computer programming languages that
    were around the 80's and 90'spamdto be able to bring more people
    and keep there new comers to usenet we need updated groupswhere
    where people will find interesting to log in on a daily basis.


    CHARTER:
    - comp.lang.go will be a unmoderated group, people
    interested in the GO programming language
    can share ideas and topics, help eachother and keep up
    with interesting projects and news related to
    the go programming language

    CHANGE HISTORY:
    2023-07-04 1st RFD.


    Yes! A Golang group would be great. I just joined usenet last night and
    Go was one of the first language groups I checked for since its my go-to language.

    I'm new to usenet but if there is a way to help get this group started
    or if I need to vote somewhere or something let me know.

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  • From Matija Nalis@21:1/5 to rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid on Mon Sep 4 09:27:01 2023
    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 14:34:47 EDT, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    - The Go programming language


    I'd change that to:

    - The Go programming language (Golang)

    for easier finding (by its traditional name).

    Otherwise, users searching just for "go" in list of hundreds of thousands of newsgroups would probably grow frustrated
    pretty quick.

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  • From Nikolaj Lazic@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 15:18:52 2023
    Dana Mon, 4 Sep 2023 09:27:01 CST, Matija Nalis <mnalis-news@voyager.hr> napis'o:
    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 14:34:47 EDT, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    - The Go programming language


    I'd change that to:

    - The Go programming language (Golang)

    for easier finding (by its traditional name).

    Otherwise, users searching just for "go" in list of hundreds of thousands of newsgroups would probably grow frustrated
    pretty quick.

    True.

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Nikolaj Lazic on Mon Sep 11 16:45:09 2023
    On 2023-09-08, Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:

    I'd change that to:

    - The Go programming language (Golang)

    for easier finding (by its traditional name).


    True.


    Is possible if they use a generic search engine but if they look for comp.lang.* not many groups if none starts with go* so not sure why this
    will be hard to find. Just wondering.

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 13 11:35:28 2023
    Am 04.07.2023 um 14:34:47 Uhr schrieb rek2 hispagatos:

    2023-07-04 1st RFD.

    Is there any news about the RfD?

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Fri Sep 15 08:47:42 2023
    On 2023-09-13, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    Am 04.07.2023 um 14:34:47 Uhr schrieb rek2 hispagatos:

    2023-07-04 1st RFD.

    Is there any news about the RfD?

    I submit it for voting around 2 weeks a go or so.

    Happy Hacking
    reK2

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  • From Tristan Miller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 06:03:12 2023
    Dear rek2,

    On 2023-09-15 16:47, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    I submited 2 weeks a go or so the last RFD so it gets voted... I think O_O


    We're still waiting for your final confirmation on the wording of the
    RFD. Could you reply to our e-mail of 8 September? If you didn't get
    it, let me know here.

    Regards,
    Tristan

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Mon Sep 18 17:38:40 2023
    On 2023-09-18, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Dear rek2,

    On 2023-09-15 16:47, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    I submited 2 weeks a go or so the last RFD so it gets voted... I think O_O


    We're still waiting for your final confirmation on the wording of the
    RFD. Could you reply to our e-mail of 8 September? If you didn't get
    it, let me know here.

    Regards,
    Tristan


    I'm very sure I did reply, but will double check after work.
    Thanks for the heads-up.

    ReK2
    Happy Hacking

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Mon Sep 18 17:51:53 2023
    On 2023-09-18, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Dear rek2,

    On 2023-09-15 16:47, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    I submited 2 weeks a go or so the last RFD so it gets voted... I think O_O


    We're still waiting for your final confirmation on the wording of the
    RFD. Could you reply to our e-mail of 8 September? If you didn't get
    it, let me know here.

    Regards,
    Tristan


    I can't seen to find the email but I am almost sure I replied saying to
    yes go ahead and make the changes.
    In any case you can resend it my way. Thanks.

    ReK2
    Happy Hacking


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  • From Rayner Lucas@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 19:56:05 2023
    In article <ueagna$16e7d$2@matrix.hispagatos.org>, rek2
    @hispagatos.org.invalid says...

    On 2023-09-18, Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> wrote:
    Dear rek2,

    On 2023-09-15 16:47, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    I submited 2 weeks a go or so the last RFD so it gets voted... I think O_O


    We're still waiting for your final confirmation on the wording of the
    RFD. Could you reply to our e-mail of 8 September? If you didn't get
    it, let me know here.

    Regards,
    Tristan


    I can't seen to find the email but I am almost sure I replied saying to
    yes go ahead and make the changes.
    In any case you can resend it my way. Thanks.

    ReK2
    Happy Hacking

    Hi ReK2,

    I have sent our most recent email to you again. It sounds like either
    that message or your reply to it must have got lost.

    If you haven't received it, please reply here to let us know.

    Best regards,
    Rayner

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