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  • Re: New Big-8 Newsgroup

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 13:56:19 2021
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    Hi Nigel,

    Adding news.admin.hierarchies in the discussion because it may be time
    to generate new PGP keys for still active hierarchies.


    You can download:

    https://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/PGPKEYS

    and just run gpg --import on it.

    Doh, totally missed that bit right at the end. Is it expected that most
    of the keys wont import?


    gpg: Total number processed: 103
    gpg: skipped PGP-2 keys: 87
    gpg: imported: 16

    The 16 keys still recognized by current GnuPG releases are the ones of
    the Big-Eight, aioe, bofh, fr, grisbi, hacktic, hr, ie, mensa,
    microsoft, pbinfo, perl, pgsql, sfnet, szaf, us.

    belwue, bln, de, ffm, fido7, hun, it, ka, linux, openwatcom, uk and
    z-netz have sent control articles these last 10 years, and still have
    PGP-2 keys...

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    Julien ÉLIE

    « Quoi de plus inhumain qu'un sacrifice humain ? » (Alphonse Allais)

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  • From Thomas Hochstein@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 23:01:44 2021
    Julien ÉLIE schrieb:

    Adding news.admin.hierarchies in the discussion because it may be time
    to generate new PGP keys for still active hierarchies.

    Still on the ever-growing todo list ...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 23:28:47 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    Just a ping :-)
    Finding a packaged old version of GnuPG to verify old keys will be more
    and more difficult year by year...


    Is it expected that most of the keys wont import?


    gpg: Total number processed: 103
    gpg:     skipped PGP-2 keys: 87
    gpg:               imported: 16

    The 16 keys still recognized by current GnuPG releases are the ones of
    the Big-Eight, aioe, bofh, fr, grisbi, hacktic, hr, ie, mensa,
    microsoft, pbinfo, perl, pgsql, sfnet, szaf, us.

    belwue, bln, de, ffm, fido7, hun, it, ka, linux, openwatcom, uk and
    z-netz have sent control articles these last 10 years, and still have
    PGP-2 keys...

    I hope hierarchy administrators will manage to find a bit of time; news
    admins will be grateful for that :-)

    --
    Julien ÉLIE

    « – Hou hou !
    – Ouille, ouille !
    – Ouf !
    – Où ouf ? » (Astérix)

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 17:36:15 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    On 6/1/22 4:28 PM, Julien ÉLIE wrote:

    The 16 keys still recognized by current GnuPG releases are the ones of
    the Big-Eight, aioe, bofh, fr, grisbi, hacktic, hr, ie, mensa,
    microsoft, pbinfo, perl, pgsql, sfnet, szaf, us.

    Does https://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/PGPKEYS need updating? You
    mention newer keys for Big-Eight, aioe, and others, but I only see the
    old key after importing:

    [news@spool1 ~/src]$ gpg --list-keys --homedir=/usr/local/news/etc/pgp news.announce.newgroups
    pub 1024R/B88DA9C1 1996-04-10
    uid news.announce.newgroups

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  • From Thomas Hochstein@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 19:15:32 2022
    Julien ÉLIE schrieb:

    Just a ping :-)
    Finding a packaged old version of GnuPG to verify old keys will be more
    and more difficult year by year...

    Yep. <https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2022/04/msg00008.html>

    I hope hierarchy administrators will manage to find a bit of time; news admins will be grateful for that :-)

    Still on the to-do list ...

    -thh

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Sat Jun 11 16:38:32 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> writes:

    Does https://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/PGPKEYS need updating? You
    mention newer keys for Big-Eight, aioe, and others, but I only see the
    old key after importing:

    [news@spool1 ~/src]$ gpg --list-keys --homedir=/usr/local/news/etc/pgp news.announce.newgroups
    pub 1024R/B88DA9C1 1996-04-10
    uid news.announce.newgroups

    Yeah, sorry, this has been on my list for forever and I kept forgetting to
    do it. I've updated the source for ftp.isc.org and hopefully it should
    update in the next few days.

    --
    Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please post questions rather than mailing me directly.
    <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Russ Allbery on Sun Jun 12 02:41:01 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:38:32 -0700
    Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> wrote:

    Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> writes:

    Does https://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/PGPKEYS need updating? You
    mention newer keys for Big-Eight, aioe, and others, but I only see
    the old key after importing:

    [news@spool1 ~/src]$ gpg --list-keys
    --homedir=/usr/local/news/etc/pgp news.announce.newgroups
    pub 1024R/B88DA9C1 1996-04-10
    uid news.announce.newgroups

    Yeah, sorry, this has been on my list for forever and I kept
    forgetting to do it. I've updated the source for ftp.isc.org and
    hopefully it should update in the next few days.

    When I try to import those keys I get a lot of


    gpg: skipped PGP-2 keys:

    messages. Is there a workaround before I go searching? A quick look
    didn't give anything overly useful.

    Thanks,



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  • From Thomas Hochstein@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Sun Jun 12 12:34:59 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    Nigel Reed wrote:

    When I try to import those keys I get a lot of


    gpg: skipped PGP-2 keys:

    messages.

    Do you use gpg1 (i.e. 1.x) or gpg2 (i.e. 2.x)?

    GnuPG 2.1.18 and newer won't import those keys; you'll need to use GnuPG
    1.x (and gpg, not gpgv for verification).

    -thh

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to Thomas Hochstein on Sun Jun 12 16:02:20 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    On 6/12/22 5:34 AM, Thomas Hochstein wrote:
    Nigel Reed wrote:

    When I try to import those keys I get a lot of


    gpg: skipped PGP-2 keys:

    messages.

    Do you use gpg1 (i.e. 1.x) or gpg2 (i.e. 2.x)?

    GnuPG 2.1.18 and newer won't import those keys; you'll need to use GnuPG
    1.x (and gpg, not gpgv for verification).

    -thh

    You could mess around trying to get a version of GnuPG 2.x working, but
    in the end I also found the path of least resistance to be using GnuPG
    1.4.x. Not ideal, but covers the most keys still in use on Usenet.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Sun Jun 12 23:33:02 2022
    XPost: news.software.nntp

    On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 16:02:20 -0500
    Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

    On 6/12/22 5:34 AM, Thomas Hochstein wrote:
    Nigel Reed wrote:

    When I try to import those keys I get a lot of


    gpg: skipped PGP-2 keys:

    messages.

    Do you use gpg1 (i.e. 1.x) or gpg2 (i.e. 2.x)?

    GnuPG 2.1.18 and newer won't import those keys; you'll need to use
    GnuPG 1.x (and gpg, not gpgv for verification).

    -thh

    You could mess around trying to get a version of GnuPG 2.x working,
    but in the end I also found the path of least resistance to be using
    GnuPG 1.4.x. Not ideal, but covers the most keys still in use on
    Usenet.

    That's about the conclusion I had come to. Thanks for confirming. I'll
    go install gpg1.

    Thanks,
    Nigel


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