I am starting this thread to document complaints to Google to resolve
the tsunami of Usenet spam originating with their servers. The spam
flood attack has persisted for a very long time.
Since 8/31 the last 10000 messages I polled from Usenet group
'sci.crypt' are mostly automated spam originating with google path
headers.
Only 44 messages were found that are not spam. This means that roughly
99.56% of all messages in the group are spam originating with google
servers.
I suggest others file abuse complaints with Google, then post copies of
those complaints as follow-ups to this thread in news.admin.peering.
This way we can document efforts to request Google cease enabling the
spam abuse.
On 14/09/2023 21:47, Syber Shock wrote:
I am starting this thread to document complaints to Google to
resolve the tsunami of Usenet spam originating with their servers.
The spam flood attack has persisted for a very long time.
Since 8/31 the last 10000 messages I polled from Usenet group
'sci.crypt' are mostly automated spam originating with google path
headers.
Only 44 messages were found that are not spam. This means that
roughly 99.56% of all messages in the group are spam originating
with google servers.
I suggest others file abuse complaints with Google, then post
copies of those complaints as follow-ups to this thread in news.admin.peering. This way we can document efforts to request
Google cease enabling the spam abuse.
What's the CEO of Google's email? Forward it all to him.
It's only going to annoy his PA - but, since they seem to ignore the
'report abuse' button - maybe it'll get thier attention.
I am starting this thread to document complaints to Google to resolve
the tsunami of Usenet spam originating with their servers. The spam
flood attack has persisted for a very long time.
Since 8/31 the last 10000 messages I polled from Usenet group
'sci.crypt' are mostly automated spam originating with google path
headers.
Only 44 messages were found that are not spam. This means that roughly
99.56% of all messages in the group are spam originating with google
servers.
I suggest others file abuse complaints with Google, then post copies of
those complaints as follow-ups to this thread in news.admin.peering.
This way we can document efforts to request Google cease enabling the
spam abuse.
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On 14/09/2023 21:47, Syber Shock wrote:
I am starting this thread to document complaints to Google to resolve
the tsunami of Usenet spam originating with their servers. The spam
flood attack has persisted for a very long time.
Since 8/31 the last 10000 messages I polled from Usenet group
'sci.crypt' are mostly automated spam originating with google path
headers.
Only 44 messages were found that are not spam. This means that roughly
99.56% of all messages in the group are spam originating with google
servers.
I suggest others file abuse complaints with Google, then post copies of
those complaints as follow-ups to this thread in news.admin.peering.
This way we can document efforts to request Google cease enabling the
spam abuse.
What's the CEO of Google's email? Forward it all to him.
It's only going to annoy his PA - but, since they seem to ignore the
'report abuse' button - maybe it'll get thier attention.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:19:43 +0100
Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 14/09/2023 21:47, Syber Shock wrote:
I am starting this thread to document complaints to Google to
resolve the tsunami of Usenet spam originating with their servers.
The spam flood attack has persisted for a very long time.
Since 8/31 the last 10000 messages I polled from Usenet group
'sci.crypt' are mostly automated spam originating with google path
headers.
Only 44 messages were found that are not spam. This means that
roughly 99.56% of all messages in the group are spam originating
with google servers.
I suggest others file abuse complaints with Google, then post
copies of those complaints as follow-ups to this thread in
news.admin.peering. This way we can document efforts to request
Google cease enabling the spam abuse.
What's the CEO of Google's email? Forward it all to him.
It's only going to annoy his PA - but, since they seem to ignore the
'report abuse' button - maybe it'll get thier attention.
If I must head to the top I'd like to have documented steps so they
can see exactly where the problems and failures are. If many people
file complaints and follow-ups and document it, then Google management
can piece together a picture of why their abuse reporting system fails,
and fix that, too.
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I notified Hacker News.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37514999
Maybe someone there might know someone who knows someone ...
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@theregister@geeknews.chat
At over 40 years old, Usenet is the oldest sharing network in
continuous operation. Today Usenet is under sustained attack from
malicious spammers and con artists. Most newsgroup charters prohibit commercial advertisement or solicitation. Yet the upstream providers do nothing to block such messages. What's worse, the services advertised
in many of the spam messages are illegal and fraudulent.
Maybe some investigators at the tech zines might want to inquire why
Google News has allowed a massive tsunami of illegal drug sales,
bitcoin fraud, and illegal blackhat services spam to flood Usenet
newsgroups?
I notified Hacker News.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37514999
Maybe someone there might know someone who knows someone ...
Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> writes:
I notified Hacker News.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37514999
Maybe someone there might know someone who knows someone ...
That might have more effect that a direct report.
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On 2023-09-14, Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> wrote:
Via fediverse: https://syfershock.com/notice/AZlzdB0gaxGseGDHuK
@arstechnica@mastodon.social
@theregister@geeknews.chat
At over 40 years old, Usenet is the oldest sharing network in
continuous operation. Today Usenet is under sustained attack from
malicious spammers and con artists. Most newsgroup charters prohibit
commercial advertisement or solicitation. Yet the upstream providers do
nothing to block such messages. What's worse, the services advertised
in many of the spam messages are illegal and fraudulent.
Maybe some investigators at the tech zines might want to inquire why
Google News has allowed a massive tsunami of illegal drug sales,
bitcoin fraud, and illegal blackhat services spam to flood Usenet
newsgroups?
Yes please let us know, also maybe if you can put this on a wiki page
that many of us can contribute and share we can make a bigger impact.
ReK2
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@arstechnica@mastodon.social
@theregister@geeknews.chat
At over 40 years old, Usenet is the oldest sharing network in
continuous operation. Today Usenet is under sustained attack from
malicious spammers and con artists. Most newsgroup charters prohibit >commercial advertisement or solicitation. Yet the upstream providers do >nothing to block such messages. What's worse, the services advertised
in many of the spam messages are illegal and fraudulent.
Maybe some investigators at the tech zines might want to inquire why
Google News has allowed a massive tsunami of illegal drug sales,
bitcoin fraud, and illegal blackhat services spam to flood Usenet
newsgroups?
The spam is so voluminous that newsgroup 'sci.crypt' has virtually been >rendered inaccessible by spam DDoS. Some usenet reader softwares don't
have the filtering facility to weed out all the garbage.
All my prior abuse complaints to Google and other major Usenet
providers have not been addressed or resolved. Therefore from now
onward I will be documenting them on Usenet. We want our sci.crypt back
from the malicious spammers and the Usenet providers that enable them
to operate with impunity.
If you know anyone who investigates and reports on this kind of stuff
please alert them. Maybe a little bit of attention will spur resolute
action.
I hope for an outcome of 100% elimination of all the drug, fraud,
blackhat, and DDoS spam and measures taken to prevent any repeat in the >future. Any Usenet provider that claims they shouldn't need to prevent
spam shouldn't be running a NNTP server peered to Usenet.
https://sybershock.com/forum/random/article-flat.php?id=383&group=news.admin.peering#383
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So is the Cisco group!
Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> writes:
I notified Hacker News.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37514999
Maybe someone there might know someone who knows someone ...
That might have more effect that a direct report.
I am of the belief that Google Groups desrves UDP!
The spam is so voluminous that newsgroup 'sci.crypt' has virtually
been rendered inaccessible by spam DDoS. Some usenet reader softwares
don't have the filtering facility to weed out all the garbage.
Sadly, the cisco group didn't receive non-spam for years.
I remember that Google doesn't care about Usenet anymore and not about
abuse at all - for years.
Some workers at German ISPs confirmed that.
Am 15.09.2023 schrieb Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>:
Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com> writes:
I notified Hacker News.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37514999
Maybe someone there might know someone who knows someone ...
That might have more effect that a direct report.
I remember that Google doesn't care about Usenet anymore and not about
abuse at all - for years.
Some workers at German ISPs confirmed that.
Am 14.09.2023 schrieb doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor):
I am of the belief that Google Groups desrves UDP!
IIRC only a small amount of news server peer with it, so it would be
very easy to simply stop incoming feeds.
Outgoing feed to Google are ok, they don't disturb anybody and it is a
free archive.
Am 14.09.2023 schrieb doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor):
So is the Cisco group!
Sadly, the cisco group didn't receive non-spam for years.
On 9/15/23 02:03, Marco Moock wrote:
I remember that Google doesn't care about Usenet anymore and not about
abuse at all - for years.
Some workers at German ISPs confirmed that.
To be fair, Usenet is "obsolete". If they're offering it though, they
should either prevent spam or shut it off imo.
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Am 14.09.2023 schrieb Syber Shock <admin@sybershock.com>:
The spam is so voluminous that newsgroup 'sci.crypt' has virtually
been rendered inaccessible by spam DDoS. Some usenet reader softwares
don't have the filtering facility to weed out all the garbage.
News server operators could implement a filter that blocks ALL posts >originating from Google for only that group.
In article <ue1jno$383vn$1@dont-email.me>,
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 9/15/23 02:03, Marco Moock wrote:
I remember that Google doesn't care about Usenet anymore and not about
abuse at all - for years.
Some workers at German ISPs confirmed that.
To be fair, Usenet is "obsolete". If they're offering it though, they
should either prevent spam or shut it off imo.
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin combined!
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News server operators could implement a filter that blocks ALL posts >>>originating from Google for only that group.
Or block GG as a whole!
I second this! :)
if someone tells me how to do this on inn I do it with out a blink of an
eye.
ReK2
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On 9/15/23 09:21, The Doctor wrote:
In article <ue1jno$383vn$1@dont-email.me>,
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 9/15/23 02:03, Marco Moock wrote:
I remember that Google doesn't care about Usenet anymore and not about >>>> abuse at all - for years.
Some workers at German ISPs confirmed that.
To be fair, Usenet is "obsolete". If they're offering it though, they
should either prevent spam or shut it off imo.
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin >combined!
It can ABSOLUTELY offer more than Facebook and X/Twitter. LinkedIn is a
bit harder to argue purely because it's more business focused and could
help you get a job and stuff.
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News server operators could implement a filter that blocks ALL posts
originating from Google for only that group.
Or block GG as a whole!
I second this! :)
if someone tells me how to do this on inn I do it with out a blink of an
eye.
ReK2
Happy Hacking
Or block GG as a whole!
I second this! :)
if someone tells me how to do this on inn I do it with out a blink of an >>> eye.
If you use Cleanfeed there are multiple ways, they've been discussed a lot in >>other groups such as news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
You can filter them out based on their Path or other headers like User-Agent.
Cleanfeed is one method, the other is the ME line in the newsfeeds file!
On Sep 15, 2023 at 10:26:52 AM CDT, "rek2 hispagatos" ><rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
News server operators could implement a filter that blocks ALL posts
originating from Google for only that group.
Or block GG as a whole!
I second this! :)
if someone tells me how to do this on inn I do it with out a blink of an
eye.
ReK2
Happy Hacking
If you use Cleanfeed there are multiple ways, they've been discussed a lot in >other groups such as news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
You can filter them out based on their Path or other headers like User-Agent.
News server operators could implement a filter that blocks ALL posts >>originating from Google for only that group.
Or block GG as a whole!
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin combined!
Or block GG as a whole!
I second this! :)
if someone tells me how to do this on inn I do it with out a blink of an >>>> eye.
If you use Cleanfeed there are multiple ways, they've been discussed a lot in
other groups such as news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
You can filter them out based on their Path or other headers like User-Agent.
Cleanfeed is one method, the other is the ME line in the newsfeeds file!
Thanks to both of you, I really want to install Cleanfeed in our server,
I just have not got the time to sit down and read the documentation to
be able to somewhat not screw it up to much :)
if anyone has any articles or step by step howto somewhere feel free to
send it my way I will apreciate it. We are using INN 2x.
ReK2
Happy Hacking
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Am 15.09.2023 um 14:21:39 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin
combined!
True.
In article <ue1q5n$39hqa$1@dont-email.me>,
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
It can ABSOLUTELY offer more than Facebook and X/Twitter. LinkedIn is a
bit harder to argue purely because it's more business focused and could
help you get a job and stuff.
Linkedin by M$ is causing linkedin to go downhill.
On 9/15/23 10:35, The Doctor wrote:
In article <ue1q5n$39hqa$1@dont-email.me>,
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
It can ABSOLUTELY offer more than Facebook and X/Twitter. LinkedIn is a
bit harder to argue purely because it's more business focused and could
help you get a job and stuff.
Linkedin by M$ is causing linkedin to go downhill.
Wait, what? M$ bought LinkedIn? That doesn't bode well.
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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
Am 15.09.2023 um 14:21:39 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin
combined!
Thank you and pardon about misspelling Twitter!
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:38:36 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor ><doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
Am 15.09.2023 um 14:21:39 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:
To be fair, Usenet can offer more than Facebook, Twttier and linkedin
combined!
Thank you and pardon about misspelling Twitter!
Yeah, that was pretty bad misspelling; it is spelled "x" nowdays :)
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