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  • Does anyone have a long soc.* retention?

    From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 18 18:13:06 2022
    Hi news admins,

    I was looking at one of my groups and someone mentioned that since
    Google Groups changed, it's hard to find old articles.

    I'm wondering if anyone has a large retention of soc.* groups. I'm
    thinking 10-20+ years? I would love to peer with them.

    Also open to other peers if anyone is looking.

    Thanks,
    Nigel

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 19 01:12:06 2022
    According to Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>:
    Hi news admins,

    I was looking at one of my groups and someone mentioned that since
    Google Groups changed, it's hard to find old articles.

    I'm wondering if anyone has a large retention of soc.* groups. I'm
    thinking 10-20+ years? I would love to peer with them.

    The big providers like Giganews and Easynews all have at least a decade
    of text newsgroups, and many of them will peer with anyone. But that
    doesn't mean they'll backfill a decade of soc.bananans for you. If
    you want old messages, sign up as a customer. They're pretty cheap.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to John Levine on Thu May 19 05:36:19 2022
    On Thu, 19 May 2022 01:12:06 -0000 (UTC)
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

    According to Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>:
    Hi news admins,

    I was looking at one of my groups and someone mentioned that since
    Google Groups changed, it's hard to find old articles.

    I'm wondering if anyone has a large retention of soc.* groups. I'm
    thinking 10-20+ years? I would love to peer with them.

    The big providers like Giganews and Easynews all have at least a
    decade of text newsgroups, and many of them will peer with anyone.
    But that doesn't mean they'll backfill a decade of soc.bananans for
    you. If you want old messages, sign up as a customer. They're
    pretty cheap.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but it sort of defeats the object of having
    my own news server if I'm just going to buy service elsewhere.


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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Thu May 19 10:03:25 2022
    On 5/19/22 5:36 AM, Nigel Reed wrote:

    Thanks for the suggestion, but it sort of defeats the object of having
    my own news server if I'm just going to buy service elsewhere.

    Setting up a server and getting peers is relatively easy, but finding a longtime admin willing to take time set things up to feed you old
    articles is a bigger feat. I attempted several years back, but
    partially due to dropping the ball on my end, and since only one person
    was willing at the time, it didn't happen. Hopefully someone will see
    your request and be willing.

    If you have a small number of groups you want to backfill, with a
    commercial provider you could use something like pullnews or suck.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 19 20:08:04 2022
    Hi Nigel,

    I'm wondering if anyone has a large retention of soc.* groups. I'm
    thinking 10-20+ years? I would love to peer with them.

    The big providers like Giganews and Easynews all have at least a
    decade of text newsgroups, and many of them will peer with anyone.
    But that doesn't mean they'll backfill a decade of soc.bananans for
    you. If you want old messages, sign up as a customer. They're
    pretty cheap.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but it sort of defeats the object of having
    my own news server if I'm just going to buy service elsewhere.

    You could just set up a peer with them (to obtain new articles) and in
    parallel take their 14-day free trial and suck all the old articles you
    want during that time.

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    Julien ÉLIE

    « Le style est l'homme même. » (Buffon)

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  • From John Goerzen@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Thu Jun 23 13:47:03 2022
    On 2022-05-19, Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
    If you have a small number of groups you want to backfill, with a
    commercial provider you could use something like pullnews or suck.

    You could start with files like these from archive.org:

    https://archive.org/details/gna-soc

    Found from:

    https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet+soc&sin=

    There are a lot of dumps out of Giganews on archive.org if you poke around. You
    could then supplement with suck for the more current stuff.

    - John

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  • From John Goerzen@21:1/5 to John Goerzen on Thu Jun 23 13:48:50 2022
    On 2022-06-23, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
    On 2022-05-19, Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
    If you have a small number of groups you want to backfill, with a
    commercial provider you could use something like pullnews or suck.

    You could start with files like these from archive.org:

    https://archive.org/details/gna-soc

    Here's another:

    https://archive.org/details/usenet-soc

    - John

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to John Goerzen on Thu Jun 23 22:58:02 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:48:50 -0000 (UTC)
    John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:

    On 2022-06-23, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
    On 2022-05-19, Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com>
    wrote:
    If you have a small number of groups you want to backfill, with a
    commercial provider you could use something like pullnews or suck.


    You could start with files like these from archive.org:

    https://archive.org/details/gna-soc

    Here's another:

    https://archive.org/details/usenet-soc

    - John

    Thanks for the suggestion.


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