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  • Finding the Message-ID from a Dejanews Google Search Archivew result

    From wasbit@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 28 20:28:12 2022
    XPost: alt.free.newsswervers, news.software.nntp

    How can I find the message id of a very old article which has long ago
    expired in my news feed & on the news server but which I can find on a
    google search?

    Google's dejanews no longer allows the original message (with headers) to
    be viewed (at least forthose like me who don't have a Google account).

    Howard Knight requires the message id in order to reference an article but
    if you don't have that message id of the ancient article, how can you get
    it?

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to wasbit on Sat Apr 30 11:48:55 2022
    XPost: alt.free.newsswervers, news.software.nntp

    wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
    How can I find the message id of a very old article which has long ago expired in my news feed & on the news server but which I can find on a
    google search?

    Google's dejanews no longer allows the original message (with headers) to
    be viewed (at least forthose like me who don't have a Google account).

    It's of course your choice, but it isn't too hard to create a fake
    Google Account which shouldn't be traceable to you. Last time I did
    that - just as a proof of concept -, I was Santa Claus.

    Howard Knight requires the message id in order to reference an article but
    if you don't have that message id of the ancient article, how can you get
    it?

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  • From bje@ripco.com@21:1/5 to wasbit on Sat Apr 30 13:14:38 2022
    XPost: alt.free.newsswervers, news.software.nntp

    In news.software.nntp wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
    How can I find the message id of a very old article which has long ago expired in my news feed & on the news server but which I can find on a
    google search?


    Why don't you quit playing Secret Squirrel and tell us the name of the newsgroup and approximate time frame.

    Deja is gone, it's not coming back and google sanitized everything where finding what you seek is just not going to happen.

    Depending on the hierarchy and group, there might be a public or private or semi-private server where they archive the posts going back to who knows
    when in an untampered format.

    -bruce
    bje@ripco.com

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to bje@ripco.com on Sun May 1 01:30:05 2022
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    <bje@ripco.com> wrote in message news:t4jcnu$4ar$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com...

    Why don't you quit playing Secret Squirrel and tell us the name of the newsgroup and approximate time frame.

    I don't know the name of the newsgroup any more than I know what the secret squirrel game is. It's a general question for when I find articles on a
    google search that I want to respond to.

    Deja is gone, it's not coming back and google sanitized everything where finding what you seek is just not going to happen.

    It's only recently Google removed the option to show original so it has
    nothing to do with dejanews that Google removed it in the last few months.

    Depending on the hierarchy and group, there might be a public or private or semi-private server where they archive the posts going back to who knows
    when in an untampered format.

    That's how I find the articles that I want to respond to but I'm not a
    member of those forums which is why I want to respond using the message id
    in the References: line.
    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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