• howto check if a peering is working

    From jdanield@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 17 12:18:23 2022
    Hello,

    I asked for peering from a large french server (free.fr). All is done
    through web form, no people responding.

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/index.pl

    how can I check that the peering works?

    The way given in page links works only from the proxad network, so not
    from my own server

    thanks
    jdd

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  • From yamo'@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 17 14:44:39 2022
    Hi,

    jdanield a tapoté le 17/01/2022 12:18:

    I asked for peering from a large french server (free.fr). All is done
    through web form, no people responding.

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/index.pl

    how can I check that the peering works?

    The way given in page links works only from the proxad network, so not
    from my own server


    Free has is own special tools for that (or tools made by diablo?).
    Accessible via telnet or netcat :
    <http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/setup_fr.html>

    If this works, the feed is correct but may have a delay of some hours
    or that make this :

    nc nntpfeed.proxad.net nntp
    502 nntpfeed.proxad.net: Transfer permission denied to ....

    --
    Stéphane
    Sorry for my poor English!

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  • From jdanield@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 17 17:31:46 2022
    Le 17/01/2022 à 14:44, yamo' a écrit :
    Hi,

    jdanield a tapoté le 17/01/2022 12:18:

    I asked for peering from a large french server (free.fr). All is done
    through web form, no people responding.

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/index.pl

    how can I check that the peering works?

    The way given in page links works only from the proxad network, so not
    from my own server


    Free has is own special tools for that (or tools made by diablo?).
    Accessible via telnet or netcat :
    <http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/setup_fr.html>

    news@ns507557:/etc/news> telnet nntpfeed.proxad.net nntp
    Trying 212.27.60.67...
    Connected to nntpfeed.proxad.net.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    502 nntpfeed.proxad.net: Transfer permission denied to 142.4.209.201 - newsmaster@proxad.net (DIABLO 5-CUR-20060921-00)
    Connection closed by foreign host.



    If this works, the feed is correct but may have a delay of some hours
    or that make this :

    nc nntpfeed.proxad.net nntp
    502 nntpfeed.proxad.net: Transfer permission denied to ....


    same. I will try tomorrow, just in case delay is long. What thrills me
    is that the setup page display may workstation IP. However I filled the
    right server info.

    Do somebody have yet a peer with free.fr?

    also, is there a way to check if a peering works (any, not only Free)?
    Some grep on the logs?

    thanks
    jdd

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?yamo'?=@21:1/5 to I have and I'm not the only one but on Mon Jan 17 20:55:20 2022
    Hi,
    jdanield a écrit :

    same. I will try tomorrow, just in case delay is long. What thrills me
    is that the setup page display may workstation IP. However I filled the
    right server info.

    Do you have a full stack ipV4?

    If not the feed is forbidden (that's my case and I don't want to touch on something which is working very good...).

    Do somebody have yet a peer with free.fr?

    I have and I'm not the only one but you will have more replies for that on
    the french fr.usenet.distribution

    also, is there a way to check if a peering works (any, not only Free)?
    Some grep on the logs?

    My local grep that I've posted on fr.comp.usenet.serveurs may be helpful...

    --
    Stéphane

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  • From jdanield@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 18 08:48:46 2022
    Le 17/01/2022 à 21:55, yamo' a écrit :
    Hi,
    jdanield a écrit :

    same. I will try tomorrow, just in case delay is long. What thrills me
    is that the setup page display may workstation IP. However I filled the
    right server info.

    Do you have a full stack ipV4?

    sure. It's not a home hosted server, but a "kimsufi" (anyway I also have
    full stack at home - for free.fr it's enough to ask for one to have it)

    Do somebody have yet a peer with free.fr?

    I have and I'm not the only one but you will have more replies for that on the french fr.usenet.distribution

    replies? I didn't write there (I just subscribe to see)


    also, is there a way to check if a peering works (any, not only Free)?
    Some grep on the logs?

    My local grep that I've posted on fr.comp.usenet.serveurs may be helpful...


    what thread? (there are many :-()

    thanks
    jdd

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  • From jdanield@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 19:53:00 2022
    Le 20/01/2022 à 19:28, Gérald Niel a écrit :
    Le Mardi 18 janvier 2022 à 07:48 UTC, jdanield écrivait sur news.admin.peering :

    sure. It's not a home hosted server, but a "kimsufi" (anyway I also have
    full stack at home - for free.fr it's enough to ask for one to have it)

    « Le service feed nntp n'est accessible que depuis des IPs fixes du
    réseau ProXad »

    KS is on the OVH network.
    Peering with this server is possible with a dedibox or another
    dedicated Online/Scaleway server.

    @+

    yes, I was fearing this :-(

    not a real problem, I have other peers :-(

    but I don't know where you found this sentence, either I'm blind or it's
    not there

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/
    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/testfeed.pl
    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/setup_fr.html

    by the way I could (may be) use a proxy on my own freebox, but I don't
    care enough

    thanks
    jdd




    thanjks
    jdd

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rald?= Niel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 18:28:11 2022
    Le Mardi 18 janvier 2022 07:48 UTC, jdanield crivait sur
    news.admin.peering :

    sure. It's not a home hosted server, but a "kimsufi" (anyway I also have
    full stack at home - for free.fr it's enough to ask for one to have it)

    Le service feed nntp n'est accessible que depuis des IPs fixes du
    rseau ProXad

    KS is on the OVH network.
    Peering with this server is possible with a dedibox or another
    dedicated Online/Scaleway server.

    @+
    --
    On ne le dira jamais assez, l'anarchisme, c'est l'ordre sans le
    gouvernement ; c'est la paix sans la violence. C'est le contraire
    prcisment de tout ce qu'on lui reproche, soit par ignorance, soit
    par mauvaise foi. -+- Hem Day -+-

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A9rald?= Niel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 21:07:42 2022
    Le Jeudi 20 janvier 2022 à 18:53 UTC, jdanield écrivait sur news.admin.peering :

    but I don't know where you found this sentence, either I'm blind or it's
    not there

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/

    You're blind.

    Or maybe…

    Your personal IP at home is not the IP of your server.
    So… check this with lynx or w3m from your server. Not from your home
    behind your FreeBox.

    --
    On ne le dira jamais assez, l'anarchisme, c'est l'ordre sans le
    gouvernement ; c'est la paix sans la violence. C'est le contraire
    précisément de tout ce qu'on lui reproche, soit par ignorance, soit
    par mauvaise foi. -+- Hem Day -+-

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  • From jdanield@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 23:18:52 2022
    Le 20/01/2022 à 22:07, Gérald Niel a écrit :
    Le Jeudi 20 janvier 2022 à 18:53 UTC, jdanield écrivait sur news.admin.peering :

    but I don't know where you found this sentence, either I'm blind or it's
    not there

    http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/

    You're blind.

    Or maybe…

    Your personal IP at home is not the IP of your server.

    yes, I noted this on my first post here, but the form didn't ask for IP,
    only domain name

    So… check this with lynx or w3m from your server. Not from your home
    behind your FreeBox.


    done and refused.

    I was guessing it was the reason, but there are not so many usenet
    servers on the proxad network, so I was in doubt.

    May be it's possible (=more simpler than installing INN) to have a "peer
    proxy" on my freebox? no idea if this is even possible

    jdd

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?yamo'?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 10:39:29 2022
    Hi,
    jdanield a écrit :
    I was guessing it was the reason, but there are not so many usenet
    servers on the proxad network, so I was in doubt.

    There was some servers (mine also), it was working fine* but proxad has some troubles and may be have the same end as orange/wanadoo...

    * sometimes there was binaries on a text only feed.

    --
    Stéphane
    Sorry for my bad English...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 12:22:01 2022
    Bonjour Stéphane,

    There was some servers (mine also), it was working fine* but proxad has some troubles and may be have the same end as orange/wanadoo...

    * sometimes there was binaries on a text only feed.

    I am unsure what the NNTP architecture of Proxad is. I think I've one
    day heard they were using a mix of Diablo feeders and readers, and INN
    for a specific purpose I don't remember. Or maybe it was another French
    ISP.

    The fact there are binaries on a text-only feed reminds me of an old bug
    in INN, long time fixed (in 2009 with the 2.4.6 release). We were not
    handling and copying strings properly with the Perl C API integration.

    Maybe Diablo suffers from a similar issue, or Proxad still uses an old
    INN version somewhere.

    --
    Julien ÉLIE

    « Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. » (Virgile)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?yamo'?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 10:00:52 2022
    Bonjour Julien,
    Julien ÉLIE a écrit :
    The fact there are binaries on a text-only feed reminds me of an old bug
    in INN, long time fixed (in 2009 with the 2.4.6 release). We were not handling and copying strings properly with the Perl C API integration.

    This was maybe a bad configuration of the feed (à '@' which was not
    present).

    --
    Stéphane
    Sorry for my bad English...

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