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On 29.09.2024 um 15:31 Uhr SugarBug wrote:

NNTP4 / FreeDyn

https://news.nntp4.net (closed down on December 8th, 2023!)

Freedyn was discontinued, but the news server on nntp4.net still exists. Freedyn offered other services that are indeed discontinued.

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1727616697muell@cartoonies.org

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SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> composa la prose suivante:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server listing for >errors or omissions.

This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you know of
any that should be added to the list please post a correction or
addition in this thread.

### General Usenet Servers (BIG8 & alt.* hierarchies)

(...)

I2PN2

https://i2pn2.org (full text feed)

NovaBBS

https://novabbs.org (darknet text feed)

Eternal September

https://www.eternal-september.org (full text feed)

Blue World Hosting

https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com (full text feed)

(...)

usenet.ovh

http://usenet.ovh (French language)

The news official name of the server is NUO.
It has a multi-linguage web site.
And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

I have a little list in four language (French, American, Deutch, Italian)
for free server with uptodate fr groups hierarchy distribution. http://usenet.ovh/?article=faq_serveur_gratuit

I mentioned your list on my page.
Your list is very complete: nice and useful work.
Thank you

--
Admin of NUO - news.usenet.ovh

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 17:38:27 +0042, yeti wrote:

SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

tilde.club ==> https://tilde.club/wiki/usenet-news.html

news.tilde.club:119 is public readable. It was writable too until a
while ago that was abused. Some other pub(?)nixens run their news
server completely walled, e.g. SDF. So big thanks to the Tildeverse
for at least staying readable.

doesnt even carry this newsgroup :)

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On 2024-09-29, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server listing for errors or omissions.

This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you know of
any that should be added to the list please post a correction or
addition in this thread.

Thanks so much for the list, is the one I post all around the fediverse,
when people wants to move away from the bloated web to post/read.

Happy Hacking
ReK2

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:12:53 -0000 (UTC), rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

On 2024-09-29, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server listing for
errors or omissions.
This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you know of
any that should be added to the list please post a correction or
addition in this thread.

Thanks so much for the list, is the one I post all around the fediverse,
when people wants to move away from the bloated web to post/read.
Happy Hacking
ReK2

social media is moderated --- censored by venal judges --- no matter how
much lipstick they try put on it (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lipstick+pig)

names like fediverse, and their befitting pentagon logo, aren't charming
to civilians either (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pentagon+logo+fed-iverse)

even so, some of those insiders might be curious about the outside world
and discover these old-fashioned unmoderated usenet newsgroups where the veritable untamed wild west of uncensored free speech is everyday normal

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Am 29.09.2024 um 17:31 schrieb SugarBug:

NNTP4 / FreeDyn

https://news.nntp4.net (closed down on December 8th, 2023!)

news.nntp4.net was not closed and is active!

The Projekt FreeDYN.de was closed!

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Best regards,
Timo

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On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 05:08:06 +0200, Timo wrote:

Am 29.09.2024 um 17:31 schrieb SugarBug:

NNTP4 / FreeDyn ==> https://news.nntp4.net (closed down on December
8th, 2023!)

news.nntp4.net was not closed and is active!

Looks active to me too, at least gives that apprearance :)

news.nntp4.net - NNTPERROR: 480 Authentication required for command

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:03:44 +0200, Jean-Paul wrote:

usenet.ovh ==> http://usenet.ovh (French language)

And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

Nope. Fails one of my tests as "full text feed"


news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.computers
news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.cars


That said, other "language servers" on that list dont carry them either, although they are not listed as, or alleged to be, FTF's - so nothing
wrong with that, OVH is listed as French, not a full text feed, so the
listing as it is , is correct.

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noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> composa la prose suivante:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:03:44 +0200, Jean-Paul wrote:

usenet.ovh ==> http://usenet.ovh (French language)

And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

Nope. Fails one of my tests as "full text feed"

news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.computers
news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.cars

Ok.

That said, other "language servers" on that list dont carry them either, >although they are not listed as, or alleged to be, FTF's - so nothing
wrong with that, OVH is listed as French, not a full text feed, so the >listing as it is , is correct.

I can carry them too.
Do you have a list of missing text hierarchies ?

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On Sat, 05 Oct 2024 10:20:00 +0200, llp wrote:

noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> composa la prose suivante:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:03:44 +0200, Jean-Paul wrote:

usenet.ovh ==> http://usenet.ovh (French language)

And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

Nope. Fails one of my tests as "full text feed"


news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.computers >>news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.cars

Ok.

That said, other "language servers" on that list dont carry them either, >>although they are not listed as, or alleged to be, FTF's - so nothing
wrong with that, OVH is listed as French, not a full text feed, so the >>listing as it is , is correct.

I can carry them too.
Do you have a list of missing text hierarchies ?

Nah, my script connects to select known public servers and checks a
couple groups from news.* aus.* and rec.* to see if they can be found,
and if exists gets a known article from one of those groups to make sure
it is readable.

(the script started out being a propogation tester when once had
complaints posts weren't getting out, that script proved everytime the
issue was not with the server, of course I cant test some public servers because of 480 AUTH errors)

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 15:01:58 +0200, Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

Op 29-9-2024 om 17:31 schreef SugarBug:

https://sybershock.com/#usenet.

If I click on https://sybershock.com/forum
I get a warning from my (Dutch language) Firefox:

Waarschuwing: mogelijk beveiligingsrisico
Firefox heeft een mogelijk beveiligingsrisico gedetecteerd en is niet >doorgegaan naar rocksolid.sybershock.com. Als u deze website bezoekt,
zouden aanvallers gegevens kunnen proberen te stelen, zoals uw
wachtwoorden, e-mailadressen of creditcardgegevens.

Wat kunt u hieraan doen?
Het probleem ligt zeer waarschijnlijk bij de website, en u kunt niets
doen om dit te verhelpen. U kunt wel de beheerder van de website over
het probleem informeren.
Could this be an old website Certificate ?
Rink

strange ... "http://rocksolid.sybershock.com/" opens in tor browser with a green checkmark and message "success! your new web server is ready to use"; https://sybershock.com/#usenet opens fine (but not "sybershock.com/forum")

by contrast, the novabbs' rocksolid light always works fine in tor browser (e.g. https://news.novabbs.org/usenet/thread.php?group=news.admin.peering)

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:03:44 +0200
Jean-Paul <contact@usenet.ovh> wrote:

SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> composa la prose suivante:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and >provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server listing
for errors or omissions.

This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you know
of any that should be added to the list please post a correction or >addition in this thread.

### General Usenet Servers (BIG8 & alt.* hierarchies)

(...)

I2PN2

https://i2pn2.org (full text feed)

NovaBBS

https://novabbs.org (darknet text feed)

Eternal September

https://www.eternal-september.org (full text feed)

Blue World Hosting

https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com (full text feed)

(...)

usenet.ovh

http://usenet.ovh (French language)

The news official name of the server is NUO.
It has a multi-linguage web site.
And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

I have updated the name in the list to 'NUO'.

Have a look and tell me if it seems right:

NUO: news.usenet.ovh |> http://usenet.ovh (French) (full text feed)
(German, Italian, Polish, English)

I have a little list in four language (French, American, Deutch,
Italian) for free server with uptodate fr groups hierarchy
distribution. http://usenet.ovh/?article=faq_serveur_gratuit

I have placed this link in the section for other lists:

# List of Free Usenet Servers for the French Hierarchy (*.FR)

NUO: news.usenet.ovh (French, German, Italian, Polish, English)

I love the link where you wrote:

"This document in american"

Graciously you did not give offense to Limeys nor to 'Murricanz by
calling our boisterous drawl, 'English'.

I mentioned your list on my page.
Your list is very complete: nice and useful work.
Thank you

You're welcome. The more we advise people, the more chance there is
that refugees will find the old and free paths.

--
3883@sugar.bug

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On 5 Oct 2024 12:40:57 +1000
noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:03:44 +0200, Jean-Paul wrote:

usenet.ovh ==> http://usenet.ovh (French language)

And i think the news-server is a full text feed ;-)

Nope. Fails one of my tests as "full text feed"

news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.computers
news.usenet.ovh - NNTPERROR: 411 No such group aus.cars

That said, other "language servers" on that list dont carry them
either, although they are not listed as, or alleged to be, FTF's - so
nothing wrong with that, OVH is listed as French, not a full text
feed, so the listing as it is , is correct.

Thanks for your input. You are 'technically' correct if a server
doesn't carry something in the control listing it is 'incomplete' or
'not full' but operationally I see the definition as more fuzzy.

NUO:news.usenet.ovh carries over 15K groups across many hierarchies and
big* groups. Therefore I now list it as a full text feed. Defining FTF
is fuzzy, especially considering alt and foreign hierarchies can be
subjective, and how many abandoned groups outweigh active groups.

I realize that it doesn't carry everything in the control server
listings, but most groups are defunct anyway. The sysop is there and
responds to inquiries so anyone wanting to add a group is not left
hanging. That's good enough for my subjective, fuzzy definition. Most
casual users don't get down into the nitty-gritty meanings of such
things so I think it's fine.

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3883@sugar.bug

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:16:33 +0200 (CEST)
D <J@M> wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:12:53 -0000 (UTC), rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

On 2024-09-29, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server
listing for errors or omissions.
This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you
know of any that should be added to the list please post a
correction or addition in this thread.

Thanks so much for the list, is the one I post all around the
fediverse, when people wants to move away from the bloated web to >post/read. Happy Hacking
ReK2

social media is moderated --- censored by venal judges --- no matter
how much lipstick they try put on it
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lipstick+pig)

names like fediverse, and their befitting pentagon logo, aren't
charming to civilians either (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pentagon+logo+fed-iverse)

even so, some of those insiders might be curious about the outside
world and discover these old-fashioned unmoderated usenet newsgroups
where the veritable untamed wild west of uncensored free speech is
everyday normal

We shall persevere ...

--
3883@sugar.bug

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On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 14:55:38 -0500, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 14:55:37 +0200
Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:

Op 29-9-2024 om 17:31 schreef SugarBug:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server listing
for errors or omissions.
This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you know
of any that should be added to the list please post a correction or
addition in this thread.
### General Usenet Servers (BIG8 & alt.* hierarchies)

freenews.netfront.net
(I do not know if you can post here)
(is this one Hongkong based?)

This has been suggested to me in the past. I find no information about
a free Usenet server there, and I'm not investigating any further. If
anyone has a link to a page that shows registration for POST access
I'll look but I am not hunting around for anything.

out of curiosity . . .

in news:talk.politics.china, the "freenews.netfront.net" server currently
shows about ~ 7875 articles (since 16 may 2020); "blueworldhosting" shows
~ 144583 articles (since 30 june 2003); a sample header w/ "netfront.net":

Path: news.netfront.net!.POSTED.117.143.154.157!not-for-mail
From: "fireball" <fireball@nivana.com>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Analyze China
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:06:32 +0800
Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/
Lines: 1
Message-ID: <rldo1p$1htt$1@adenine.netfront.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset="gb2312";
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 00:06:17 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="117.143.154.157";
logging-data="51133"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726
Xref: news.netfront.net talk.politics.china:379

(using Tor Browser 13.5.6)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=usenet+site%3Anetfront.net https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nntp+site%3Anetfront.net

...

https://www5.netfront.net/?lang=en

...
https://www5.netfront.net/members-area/?lang=en
Member Email Area
...
https://www5.netfront.net/aboutus/?lang=en
About us
2012 Limited is a spin-off from the former Netfront Information Technology >Limited. Netfront was established in 1995 and started offering Internet >access service to residential and corporate customers in Hong Kong since >early 1996. It is one of the few in the local ISP community that earned
the reputation of technical expertise and customer service, as first
selected by South China Morning Post technology column as the "Best
Service ISP" in Oct-1998. 2012 Limited was formed to take over all the
IP businesses of Netfront Information Technology Limited in Hong Kong due
to an acquisition restructuring.
...

https://home.netfront.net/members/engpersonal.htm

...
Check e-mail
Email forwarding( current setting , change setting )
Spam filter( current setting , change setting )
Change my dial-up and e-mail password
Check my monthly access usage hour
Check my disk usage
Change my Temporary Username
Read Usenet/Clarinet News
Check invoices & PPS Payment Number
Learn about IPass (Internet Roaming)
Fax To Email
Service Termination
...
https://home.netfront.net/support/engsupport.htm
...
proxy.netfront.net Port: 8080.
3. Enter your user name and passward which is given by NETfront

[end quoted excerpts . . . these pages look very old, "xp" era]

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.netfront.net&btnsubmit=Go

Server: news.netfront.net (47477)

great read-only server . . . probably must be a member to post

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On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 14:56:17 -0500, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:16:33 +0200 (CEST)
D <J@M> wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:12:53 -0000 (UTC), rek2 hispagatos
<rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

On 2024-09-29, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

I am performing a review of the free NNTP server list located
at https://sybershock.com/#usenet. I have re-formatted the list and
provided it in this article. Please review this NNTP server
listing for errors or omissions.
This is a list of free providers of NNTP server access. If you
know of any that should be added to the list please post a
correction or addition in this thread.

Thanks so much for the list, is the one I post all around the
fediverse, when people wants to move away from the bloated web to
post/read. Happy Hacking
ReK2

social media is moderated --- censored by venal judges --- no matter
how much lipstick they try put on it
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lipstick+pig)
names like fediverse, and their befitting pentagon logo, aren't
charming to civilians either
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pentagon+logo+fed-iverse)
even so, some of those insiders might be curious about the outside
world and discover these old-fashioned unmoderated usenet newsgroups
where the veritable untamed wild west of uncensored free speech is
everyday normal

We shall persevere ...

they have always persevered . . . not even noah's flood was enough to
do them in ... they came back and populated the earth with their kind

somehow usenet newsgroups still exist and hundreds of them are active
or very active ... could outsiders actually be dead without realizing
it? you know, like in that 2001 movie with nicole kidman 'the others'?
(yes, cf. bruce willis in shyamalan's 1999 thriller 'the sixth sense')

it might explain why insiders never pay any attention to the outsider,
insiders like to say "usenet is dead": are outsiders trapped in limbo?

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Added new server:

TorBox Onion |>

torbox36ijlcevujx7mjb4oiusvwgvmue7jfn2cvutwa6kl6to3uyqad.onion

(port 119)

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3883@sugar.bug

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Added:

Open News Network |> http://www.open-news-network.org (German)

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3883@sugar.bug

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Added:

Altexxanet |> http://altexxanet.org (Various Free Services)

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3883@sugar.bug

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Am 10.10.2024 um 04:33 schrieb SugarBug:

Added:

Open News Network |> http://www.open-news-network.org (German)

The Open News Network includes the following servers:

news2.open-news-network.org -> news.babsi.de
news3.open-news-network.org -> news.nntp4.net
news4.open-news-network.org -> news.roellig-ltd.de
news6.open-news-network.org -> news.mb-net.net

news1.open-news-network.org and news5.open-news-network.org are
currently not assigned.

Users registered with the Open News Network can use their credentials to
access all the servers listed above.

--
Best regards,
Timo

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Some read only servers are added to the list ...

news.neodome.net ==>
nntp://news.neodome.net (Read Only, Full Text Feed)

news.mixmin.net ==>
nntp://news.mixmin.net (Read Only, Full Text Feed)

news.dizum.com ==>
nntp://news.dizum.com (Read Only, Full Text Feed

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SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:10:43 -0600, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

Some read only servers are added to the list ...

news.neodome.net ==>
nntp://news.neodome.net (Read Only, Full Text Feed)

news.mixmin.net ==>
nntp://news.mixmin.net (Read Only, Full Text Feed)

news.dizum.com ==>
nntp://news.dizum.com (Read Only, Full Text Feed

big plus ones . . . been using all three for a long time

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