Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after
22Feb24
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after 22Feb24
Thus spake Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after 22Feb24
Both https://cmacleod.me.uk and https://www.novabbs.com/ are web
frontends for Usenet servers with limited retention and daily expiry
runs, so they do not qualify as Usenet archives, IMNSHO.
In article <8ma5l776vv.fsf@raybanana.net>, rayban@raybanana.net says...<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
Thus spake Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
22Feb24<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after
Both https://cmacleod.me.uk and https://www.novabbs.com/ are web
frontends for Usenet servers with limited retention and daily expiry
runs, so they do not qualify as Usenet archives, IMNSHO.
I'm surprised limited retention is a thing for servers providing only
text newsgroups at this point. The usenet-historical archive (which
appears to be a copy of the Google Groups archive up to around 2013) is apparently only 2.62TB uncompressed.
In article <8ma5l776vv.fsf@raybanana.net>, rayban@raybanana.net says...<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
Thus spake Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
22Feb24<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after
Both https://cmacleod.me.uk and https://www.novabbs.com/ are web
frontends for Usenet servers with limited retention and daily expiry
runs, so they do not qualify as Usenet archives, IMNSHO.
I'm surprised limited retention is a thing for servers providing only
text newsgroups at this point. The usenet-historical archive (which
appears to be a copy of the Google Groups archive up to around 2013) is apparently only 2.62TB uncompressed.
David Goodwin wrote:
In article <8ma5l776vv.fsf@raybanana.net>, rayban@raybanana.net says...<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
Thus spake Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
22Feb24<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after
Both https://cmacleod.me.uk and https://www.novabbs.com/ are web
frontends for Usenet servers with limited retention and daily expiry
runs, so they do not qualify as Usenet archives, IMNSHO.
I'm surprised limited retention is a thing for servers providing only
text newsgroups at this point. The usenet-historical archive (which
appears to be a copy of the Google Groups archive up to around 2013) is
apparently only 2.62TB uncompressed.
Hello I searched on some of those and none carry our hispagatos.*
or alt.2600.madrid who do I contact to ask them to please peer those newsgroups ? I looked for an email but was not able to see it, maybe
need better glasses :D :D
Thus spake rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid>
Hello I searched on some of those and none carry our hispagatos.*
or alt.2600.madrid who do I contact to ask them to please peer those
newsgroups ? I looked for an email but was not able to see it, maybe
need better glasses :D :D
FWIW: cmacleod.me.uk uses Eternal-September as its backend and hence
carries your groups, e.g:
https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/hispagatos.talk
HTH
Hello I searched on some of those and none carry our hispagatos.*
or alt.2600.madrid who do I contact to ask them to please peer those newsgroups ?
rek2 hispagatos wrote on Fri, 3 May 2024 16:03:04 -0000 (UTC) :
Hello I searched on some of those and none carry our hispagatos.*
or alt.2600.madrid who do I contact to ask them to please peer those
newsgroups ?
The narkive author is David Cavion.
He's a nice guy who cares but doesn't have resources, based on his posts
here and from my emails to him in the past.
You can look up his email in the Usenet archives for this newsgroup, as
even the Google archives will contain his posts.
https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering (search for his name).
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after 22Feb24
On 02.05.24 17:27, Andrew wrote:
Are these the only 3 known updated Usenet archives left?
<https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.admin.peering>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=news.admin.peering>
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering> No updates after 22Feb24
i've imported and deduped all available usenet backups/mbox files from archive.org (several TB compressed) without any filtering and accepted
every group that showed up which results in 471k groups so far at the Full-Node.
'news.software.nntp' for example dates back to 1987.
it should be readable via NNTP
Part-Node (111k groups)
file: http://104.244.74.85/usenet/active/part.active.txt
host: 104.244.74.85:11119
user: freefree
pass: freefree
Full-Node (471k groups)
file: http://104.244.74.85/usenet/active/full.active.txt
host: 104.244.74.85:11120
user: freefree
pass: freefree
I'm curious whether the HTTP source mentioned supports range-requests,
and whether HEAD for those resources results also the size, with
regards to making a HEAD request to get the size then making a plan
to download these files which would be expected to be constant now
in batches of range-requests and so on.
It would be very much and greatly appreciated if these are indeed
archives of pretty much all text usenet since the land before time.
About how to search these is you break them out into whatever then
makes for a summary of these files, like a pyramidal sort of
organization, then as with regards generating summary which these
days seems the "inverse-document-frequency" pattern as much as
otherwise summary and links to document IDs, to, search or query
for documents of a kind and result message-ID's their relevant
documents, or "hits".
If these are really the thing for something like "Archive Any and
All Text Usenet" it would be pretty great with regards to these,
and some of the other Internet Archive and other archives mentioned
over the past few months as after Google quit Usenet (one imagines
it was a bit too interesting to its latest/greatest knowledge gobble).
Well then warm regards and I shall so hope that such a resource,
as this portends to be, finds a good and fair usage. If so, good show.
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