• Which Newsgroups Should a Sysop Subscribe?

    From SugarBug@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 10 21:46:49 2024
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.

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  • From Ivo Gandolfo@21:1/5 to SugarBug on Thu Apr 11 09:34:02 2024
    On 11/04/2024 04:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.


    news.admin.technical (moderated)
    news.software.nntp
    news.admin.peering
    alt.sysadmin.recovery
    alt.sysadmin.bofh
    some other's (just monitor)


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    Ivo Gandolfo

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to 3883@sugar.bug on Thu Apr 11 12:54:10 2024
    In article <214e5c5832227dee9b2773209d9a0996$1@sybershock.com>,
    SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments.
    Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to?
    Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of
    the pulse and I would like to avoid information overload.

    --
    3883@sugar.bug | sybershock.com | sci.crypt


    Peers and usenet abuse groups!
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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Ivo Gandolfo on Thu Apr 11 06:25:13 2024
    On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:34:02 +0200, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

    On 11/04/2024 04:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.


    news.admin.technical (moderated)
    news.software.nntp
    news.admin.peering
    alt.sysadmin.recovery
    alt.sysadmin.bofh
    some other's (just monitor)

    I would add:

    news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to SugarBug on Thu Apr 11 15:30:10 2024
    SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote at 02:46 this Thursday (GMT):
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.


    Slightly different, but news.lists.filters is good for nocems.
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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 11 20:22:25 2024
    On 11.04.2024 um 15:30 Uhr candycanearter07 wrote:

    SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote at 02:46 this Thursday (GMT):
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
    developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want
    to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid information
    overload.


    Slightly different, but news.lists.filters is good for nocems.

    At least when human read that groups, that will be an information
    overload. :-)
    Except for that, there are not much messages in the news.* hierarchy,
    so subscribing top all should be ok.

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  • From Adding Salt To The Wound@21:1/5 to SugarBug on Thu Apr 11 20:50:18 2024
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.

    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you want
    to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The best way
    is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to keep up-to-date
    with new things happening in the IT world. Newsgroups are for trolling
    and scoring points against each other and people with any sound brain
    should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working on
    anything new. It is dull and outdated.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Adding Salt To The Wound on Thu Apr 11 22:27:47 2024
    On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:50:18 +0100, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net> wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which
    are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important?
    Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like
    to avoid information overload.

    Google is the best way to keep up-to-date

    "Who's the most important man this country ever knew?
    Who's the man our presidents tell all their troubles to?
    No, it isn't Mr. Bryan and it isn't Mr. Hughes;
    I'm mighty proud that I'm allowed a chance to introduce:

    Barney Google - with the goo, goo, googly eyes,
    Barney Google - bet his horse would win the prize;
    When the horses ran that day,
    Spark Plug ran the other way!
    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

    Who's the greatest lover that this country ever knew?
    Who's the man that Valentino takes his hat off to?
    No, it isn't Douglas Fairbanks that the ladies rave about;
    When he arrives, who makes the wives chase all their husbands out?

    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes,
    Barney Google - had a wife three times his size;
    She sued Barney for divorce,
    Now he's sleeping with his horse!
    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

    --song by Billy Rose and Con Conrad
    (c)1923 Jerome H Remick & Co., New York, Detroit
    by permission of DeBeck, creator of 'Barney Google'
    King Features Syndicate, Inc. "Great Britain Rights Reserved"

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Adding Salt To The Wound on Sun Apr 14 16:17:35 2024
    On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net> wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful? I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.

    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you want
    to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The best way
    is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to keep up-to-date
    with new things happening in the IT world. Newsgroups are for trolling
    and scoring points against each other and people with any sound brain
    should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working on
    anything new. It is dull and outdated.

    This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
    at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
    only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.
    In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
    month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
    also contribute to some alt.* etc.
    There has been new groups added and some old removed.

    we FINALLY have google leave us alone, usenet now is better than
    in the last 10 years.
    choose a node that has only plain text groups and are active
    with spam and bs.

    I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
    social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
    claps, specially mastodon.

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 14 20:16:51 2024
    On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
    wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
    developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
    stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
    I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.
    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
    want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
    best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
    keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
    Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
    and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
    on anything new. It is dull and outdated.

    This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
    at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
    only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
    else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.

    Which nodes are you talking about?

    In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
    month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
    also contribute to some alt.* etc.

    That sounds good.

    I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
    social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
    claps, specially mastodon.

    I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
    the same as on Twitter.
    It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
    have real threads.


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1713104255muell@cartoonies.org

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sun Apr 14 23:40:28 2024
    On 2024-04-14, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    the same as on Twitter.
    It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
    have real threads.

    True, you will prob like more lemmy is the response of the free internet
    to reddit https://join-lemmy.org/

    I agree with mastodon, we use it for anouncements and chit chat
    but anything usefull just gets losts, so lemmy much better
    and honestly usenet much better ;)


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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Mon Apr 15 16:00:13 2024
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
    wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
    developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
    stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
    I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.
    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
    want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
    best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
    keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
    Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
    and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
    on anything new. It is dull and outdated.

    This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
    at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
    only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
    else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.

    Which nodes are you talking about?

    In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
    month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
    also contribute to some alt.* etc.

    That sounds good.

    I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
    social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
    claps, specially mastodon.

    I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
    the same as on Twitter.
    It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
    have real threads.



    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Mon Apr 15 16:01:06 2024
    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
    wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
    developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
    stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
    I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.
    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
    want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
    best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
    keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
    Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
    and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
    on anything new. It is dull and outdated.

    This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
    at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
    only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
    else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.

    Which nodes are you talking about?

    In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
    month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
    also contribute to some alt.* etc.

    That sounds good.

    I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
    social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
    claps, specially mastodon.

    I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
    the same as on Twitter.
    It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
    have real threads.



    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Apr 15 16:30:08 2024
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote at 16:01 this Monday (GMT):
    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote at 18:16 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 14.04.2024 um 16:17 Uhr rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    On 2024-04-11, Adding Salt To The Wound <Hello.Welcome@example.net>
    wrote:
    On 11/04/2024 03:46, SugarBug wrote:
    I want to be sure I am staying current on Usenet and NNTP
    developments. Which are the newsgroups that NNTP sysops should
    stay subscribed to? Most important? Least important? Most useful?
    I want to keep track of the pulse and I would like to avoid
    information overload.
    None. You don't need to use Newsgroups to stay current unless you
    want to be current with nonsense going on in these newsgroups. The
    best way is to use common sense and and Google is the best way to
    keep up-to-date with new things happening in the IT world.
    Newsgroups are for trolling and scoring points against each other
    and people with any sound brain should stay away from them.

    There are no developments in "Usenet and NNTP". Nobody is working
    on anything new. It is dull and outdated.

    This is not true, and very vage old way of seen things,
    at least there has been 4 new nodes in the last 12 months that carry
    only text, I am working on a usenet rust client and I know someone
    else estarted to add nntp/usenet capability to their new email client.

    Which nodes are you talking about?

    In our particular node we are getting around 10-20 new users every
    month, true they usually just post on our hispagatos.* root but
    also contribute to some alt.* etc.

    That sounds good.

    I take usenet anytime over any centralized, and data mining corporate
    social networks on the http protocol, only the fediverse has my
    claps, specially mastodon.

    I've joined that too, but the amount of bullshit is incredible - almost
    the same as on Twitter.
    It also doesn't offer a good discussion platform because it doesn't
    have real threads.



    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.
    *there


    I'll be honest, I just think the Twitter style of social media isn't for
    me. I do have a bluesky acct, but I just post artwork there.
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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 08:47:45 2024
    On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:

    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    wrote:
    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.

    Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de on Tue Apr 16 15:21:58 2024
    In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:

    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    wrote:
    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.

    Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?


    I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .

    Why?

    The documentation is out of date in Mastodon

    that FreeBSD port is better maintained.


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org



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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Apr 16 19:37:27 2024
    On 2024-04-16, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:

    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    wrote:
    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.

    Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?


    I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .

    Why?

    The documentation is out of date in Mastodon

    that FreeBSD port is better maintained.


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org





    I believe you, we run a mastodon node for years now hispagatos.space
    and instead of using the Arch GNU/Linux "packages" I used and been using
    the source code, I just git fetch to the release version and do the
    compile. This way I never had an issue.


    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

    --
    - {gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org - mastodon: @rek2@hispagatos.space
    - [https|gemini]://2600.Madrid - https://hispagatos.space/@rek2
    - https://keyoxide.org/A31C7CE19D9C58084EA42BA26C0B0D11E9303EC5

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to rek2@hispagatos.org on Tue Apr 16 21:29:10 2024
    In article <uvmk1n$bmtq$2@matrix.hispagatos.org>,
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org> wrote:
    On 2024-04-16, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <uvl6ui$qcb5$1@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 15.04.2024 um 16:01 Uhr The Doctor wrote:

    In article <uvjiud$c7v0$5@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    wrote:
    Yeah, mastadon isn't great IMO.

    Administration ther is questionable.

    Isn't that "every server operator does what he wants"?


    I had to swith to ubuntu to FreeBSD .

    Why?

    The documentation is out of date in Mastodon

    that FreeBSD port is better maintained.


    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1713189666muell@cartoonies.org





    I believe you, we run a mastodon node for years now hispagatos.space
    and instead of using the Arch GNU/Linux "packages" I used and been using
    the source code, I just git fetch to the release version and do the
    compile. This way I never had an issue.


    To each their own choice!


    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

    --
    - {gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org - mastodon: @rek2@hispagatos.space >- [https|gemini]://2600.Madrid - https://hispagatos.space/@rek2
    - https://keyoxide.org/A31C7CE19D9C58084EA42BA26C0B0D11E9303EC5


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    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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