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  • Re: Why disable NEWNEWS?

    From llp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 23:50:53 2024
    immibis <news@immibis.com> composa la prose suivante:

    I noticed that NEWNEWS is disabled on a lot of servers, including >eternal-september. It seems like it would be a sensible way to run a
    leafnode or a peer that is not always online. What's the reason it is so >often disabled?

    A question of resources used, i think.
    On my server, only admins can use it.

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  • From immibis@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 23:37:42 2024
    I noticed that NEWNEWS is disabled on a lot of servers, including eternal-september. It seems like it would be a sensible way to run a
    leafnode or a peer that is not always online. What's the reason it is so
    often disabled?

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  • From immibis@21:1/5 to llp on Thu Mar 14 01:36:29 2024
    On 13/03/24 23:50, llp wrote:
    immibis <news@immibis.com> composa la prose suivante:

    I noticed that NEWNEWS is disabled on a lot of servers, including
    eternal-september. It seems like it would be a sensible way to run a
    leafnode or a peer that is not always online. What's the reason it is so
    often disabled?

    A question of resources used, i think.
    On my server, only admins can use it.

    But clients are still able to enumerate every group and request new
    messages from every group, which seems like a greater use of resources.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 14 09:00:14 2024
    Am 13.03.2024 schrieb immibis <news@immibis.com>:

    I noticed that NEWNEWS is disabled on a lot of servers, including eternal-september. It seems like it would be a sensible way to run a
    leafnode or a peer that is not always online. What's the reason it is
    so often disabled?

    NNRP uses POST to inject articles.
    Leafnode/Hamster can also use that, they are not like NNTP server to
    their upstream.

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 14 10:32:00 2024
    Thus spake Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de>

    Am 13.03.2024 schrieb immibis <news@immibis.com>:
    I noticed that NEWNEWS is disabled on a lot of servers, including
    eternal-september. It seems like it would be a sensible way to run a
    leafnode or a peer that is not always online. What's the reason it is
    so often disabled?

    Server performance considerations.

    NNRP uses POST to inject articles.
    Leafnode/Hamster can also use that, they are not like NNTP server to
    their upstream.

    NEWNEWS has nothing to do with injecting articles:

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3977#section-7.4

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