On 2023-11-26 05:06, noel wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:09:56 +0100, Jakob Bohm wrote:
On 2023-11-21 14:44, D wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:07:24 +0100, Marco Moock
<mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
Hello!
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=170056470900
Path:
...!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-
groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
There is no other server involved in the Path: header.
Is my guess right that they have a direct peering?
"..." (ellipsis) omits irrelevant destination servers in path header...
at this writing, <rec.arts.sf.written> four thousand six hundred (4630)
articles containing "googlegroups.com" message-id and reference
headers,
not much compared to other newsgroups which have been heavily bombarded
by the googlespam administration
Once again, I have to remind you to use the Path and Injection headers
to determine Google relation, not the MsgId or Reference IDs!
Enjoy
Jakob
injection header as most know it, don't exist in some software - dnews
for one.
with privacy settings enabled every post you see has not only the path
but MID and X-Posting-Host headers as the news servers hostname, no
hashes tring to match to a user for the script kiddies (we have internal method of matching a MID to senders real posting host to deal with any problematic posters) the advantage to this is its very easy for remote
admins to filter on us if they ever have the need to, in fact, since some services have been known to strip out prior Path entries, its pretty fool proof filtering, for others, yes, Path filtering works in 98% of cases.
Point of my comment was that D keeps promoting the flawed idea of
determining GG malfunction by doing statistics on headers that do not
reliably indicate if a post passed through GG servers at all.
Backtracking GG spam to Google User's is of little interest to the rest
of us, although Google's failure to detect and stop the Spam makes it interesting for 3rd party spam filters to check if posts entered the GG
servers from a known spam source IP.
Enjoy
Jakob
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