This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked
google gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked google gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
The Spamhaus that I knew would never blacklist Gmail. I'm afraid it's
too late. Nobody cares about this, any more. The email landscape had
shifted over the last couple of decades. It's a brand new world, now.
On 26.10.2024 um 02:27 Uhr The Doctor wrote:
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked
google gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
It is just consequent what they are doing.
Google doesn't care about abuse (or intentionally allows them) from
their services. Remember when Google Groups was connected to Usenet?
Remember the flood where the shitheads from Google did nothing for
months?
The same applies for other services like GMail. Spammers know that and
they know that many legitimate people use it, so admins can't simply
block it.
If Google doesn't want that, they have to care about the abusers using
their services and annoying other people.
The Doctor writes:
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked google >> gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
Which cretins would that be?
My first reaction was "spamhaus" who?
Spamhaus hasn't been relevant in, oh I don't know how long. I heard their >original mission statement was to block prolific spam sources. That was just >a rumor. When I used them, I tried very hard to find any evidence of that >actually happening. I couldn't. Again, again, and again I saw massive >spewage, spewage that just cannot be unnoticed, continue unabated.
I was told that Spamhaus preferred to work with the spamhosters. Make them >see the error of their ways. Give them all the time in the world to see the >error of their ways. Blah, blah, blah.
I had no idea they were still around. I thought they were practically gone, >relegated to some checkmark on a flashy ad for low-level "mail server in a >box" appliances.
The Spamhaus that I knew would never blacklist Gmail. I'm afraid it's too >late. Nobody cares about this, any more. The email landscape had shifted
over the last couple of decades. It's a brand new world, now.
On 26.10.2024 um 07:58 Uhr Sam wrote:
The Spamhaus that I knew would never blacklist Gmail. I'm afraid it's
too late. Nobody cares about this, any more. The email landscape had
shifted over the last couple of decades. It's a brand new world, now.
Well, many sites switched to MS or Google, but there are still people
who operate their own server and some of them use Spamhaus, including
me.
--
kind regards
Marco
Send spam to 1729922328muell@cartoonies.org
On 26.10.2024 um 02:27 Uhr The Doctor wrote:
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked
google gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
It is just consequent what they are doing.
Google doesn't care about abuse (or intentionally allows them) from
their services. Remember when Google Groups was connected to Usenet?
Remember the flood where the shitheads from Google did nothing for
months?
The same applies for other services like GMail. Spammers know that and
they know that many legitimate people use it, so admins can't simply
block it.
If Google doesn't want that, they have to care about the abusers using
their services and annoying other people.
--
kind regards
Marco
Send spam to 1729902442muell@cartoonies.org
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked google >gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
This morning, I saw my SMTP server showing logs that spamhaus blocked google >gmail and other mailing lists for spamming.
I have no sympathy for cretins.
This morning I saw eight spam messages from google, so perhaps I
agree spamhaus with believing that possibly google could do more
about their spamming customers.
That being said, one page I'm looking at says that "Gmail has over 1.8 >million users worldwide as of 2024."
On 10/26/24 17:34, Scott Dorsey wrote:
This morning I saw eight spam messages from google, so perhaps I
agree spamhaus with believing that possibly google could do more
about their spamming customers.
I assume we can all agree that we want Gmail, Yahoo, and Microsoft to do
a better job at controlling the sewage leak from their networks.
That being said, one page I'm looking at says that "Gmail has over 1.8 >million users worldwide as of 2024."
Playing with the math, if they block 99.9% of the crap that comes out of >their network, that's still 1.8 thousand users worth of crap.
How hard is it for a university (that is still hosting their own email)
to get 99.9% of crap filtered outbound (or even inbound).
IMHO the email oligarchs are so big that even if they do orders of
magnitude better at filtering than we do, they will still produce orders
of magnitude more crap than we do.
The same page says "More than 121 billion emails are sent every day
through Gmail." Those numbers are approaching five orders of magnitude >bigger numbers than listed above.
I'm not a Google apologist. I've been anti-Google for a LONG time. But
the numbers just aren't in anyone's favor that's trying to stem the tide
of crap coming from Google.
--
Grant. . . .
That being said, one page I'm looking at says that "Gmail has over 1.8 >>million users worldwide as of 2024."
That's off by three orders of magnitude. It's more like 1.8 billion
which means a million spammers would be under 0.l%.
I am no happier than anyone else at the constant stream of spam I
get from throwaway Gmail accounts pitching sleazy SEO or virtual
assistants or whatever, but I also realize they have vast numbers
of real users.
But since Spamhaus has not in fact listed Gmail, why are we having
this conversation? The guy who posted the first message has, uh,
a well known active imagination.
--
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
But since Spamhaus has not in fact listed Gmail, why are we having
this conversation? The guy who posted the first message has, uh,
a well known active imagination.
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