Hello, all

SpamCop[1] offers an option to report a SPAM e-mail by
forwardng it to a special address. Since various clients
handle forwardin differently and include different headers,
I wanted to ask if SpamCop will accept SPAM samples as
RFC822 attachmets, that is -- the complete contents of the
offending e-mails?
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1. <https://www.spamcop.net/>

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On tis, 2024/06/18 at 15:03:41 GMT, Anton Shepelev wrote:

Hello, all

SpamCop[1] offers an option to report a SPAM e-mail by
forwardng it to a special address. Since various clients
handle forwardin differently and include different headers,
I wanted to ask if SpamCop will accept SPAM samples as
RFC822 attachmets, that is -- the complete contents of the
offending e-mails?
____________________
1. <https://www.spamcop.net/>

https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/166.html

"Forward as an attachment your spam to the personal reporting address
shown on your front page. You will get back a reply with
already-authorized URLs for reporting the spam at the address you used to
register for SpamCop with.

MIME format is best, although normal text/plain format will work fine
too. Avoid uuencoding."

Regular MIME attachment should work fine.

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Are there any tools _publicly available_ for spamcop reporting via HTTP?

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On tis, 2024/06/18 at 15:44:49 GMT, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:

Are there any tools _publicly available_ for spamcop reporting via HTTP?

If you register at SpamCop and log in, the HTTPS submission form is right there. (Just tried it.)

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Sirius to Anton Shepelev:

SpamCop[1] offers an option to report a SPAM e-mail by
forwardng it to a special address. Since various
clients handle forwardin differently and include
different headers, I wanted to ask if SpamCop will
accept SPAM samples as RFC822 attachmets, that is -- the
complete contents of the offending e-mails?

https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/166.html

Thank you very much. Now I see how this information can be
found on their website:

Help
Table of contents
SpamCop Parsing and Reporting Service
How do I submit spam via email?

It was a bit non-intuitive, because I expected all the
necessary instructions linked to from the report page.

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In article <20240618150341.6cbc5794982f7d0e6982d42d@g{oogle}mail.com>,
Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> wrote:

Hello, all

SpamCop[1] offers an option to report a SPAM e-mail by
forwardng it to a special address. Since various clients
handle forwardin differently and include different headers,
I wanted to ask if SpamCop will accept SPAM samples as
RFC822 attachmets, that is -- the complete contents of the
offending e-mails?
____________________
1. <https://www.spamcop.net/>

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I prefer the Web Interface.
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In article <anfi+z5zqr2lrlf-o6i2@wp.eu>,
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote:

Are there any tools _publicly available_ for spamcop reporting via HTTP?

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A. Filip

spamcop.net/sc . Just sign up.
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

In article <anfi+z5zqr2lrlf-o6i2@wp.eu>,
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote:

Are there any tools _publicly available_ for spamcop reporting via HTTP?

spamcop.net/sc . Just sign up.

I need "single click" marking for fully automatic further processing
(with no URL reporting in such mode),

How many hops are you willing to jump with a few+ reports per day for years?

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In article <anfi+7ov7b5fetf-o6i2@wp.eu>,
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote:

doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

In article <anfi+z5zqr2lrlf-o6i2@wp.eu>,
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote:

Are there any tools _publicly available_ for spamcop reporting via HTTP?

spamcop.net/sc . Just sign up.

I need "single click" marking for fully automatic further processing
(with no URL reporting in such mode),

How many hops are you willing to jump with a few+ reports per day for years?

That is what I do with spamcop and spamhaus.

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On 6/18/24 07:03, Anton Shepelev wrote:

Hello, all

Hi,

I wanted to ask if SpamCop will accept SPAM samples as RFC822
attachmets,

Yes, SpamCop happily ingests the message/rfc822 attachments that I've
been sending them for years.

It's been my experience that anyone that genuinely wants spam samples is
quite happy to work with message/rfc822 attachments.

I've only found one institution who seems to balk at message/rfc822
attachments and that's Mailgun. I view their unwillingness and / or
inability to work with message/rfc822 as an indication that they don't
really want to be told about problems and instead use their demand for
textual copy of headers as a gate to throttle reports.



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On 6/18/24 15:54, The Doctor wrote:

That is what I do with spamcop and spamhaus.

Do you know if there is a way to sign into an account with Spamhaus that doesn't require a Google / Linked In / GitHub account?

I find Spamhaus not supporting Spamhaus local accounts to be disturbing.

Or if there is an email address that accepts message/rfc822 attachments?
-- I don't care about status / credit. I just want to forward spam
as message/rfc822 attachments to recipients who want it.



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Grant Taylor:

Yes, SpamCop happily ingests the message/rfc822
attachments that I've been sending them for years.

But submitting the offending e-mail does not seem to be a
fire-and-forget procedure, as you then receive a reply with
a link to "finish spam reporting" on their website.

It's been my experience that anyone that genuinely wants
spam samples is quite happy to work with message/rfc822
attachments.

Yes, and it is certainly the best method of providing a
complete and unmodified SPAM sample, because every victim of
SPAM has an e-mail account, whereas they may/need not have
access to the web.

I've only found one institution who seems to balk at
message/rfc822 attachments and that's Mailgun.

Abusix does not support any simple method of SPAM reporting,
insisting on sending JSON to a specific Abusix instance:

<https://abusix.com/docs/global-reporting/>

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On 6/19/24 06:21, Anton Shepelev wrote:

But submitting the offending e-mail does not seem to be a
fire-and-forget procedure, as you then receive a reply with a link to
"finish spam reporting" on their website.

Agreed.

But forwarding spam samples (as a message/rfc822 attachment) and then
later logging into SpamCop's web interface and completing the 2nd half
for (multiple) submission(s) (in bulk) is easy enough.

I find needing to copy the headers and past them into something else to
be annoying enough that I often won't do it.

If you want to crowd source spam submissions, it behooves you to make it
easy for the crowd to do so. Don't require extra manual work of them.
Lest you find the crowd willing to do so a fair bit smaller.

Yes, and it is certainly the best method of providing a complete and unmodified SPAM sample

Agreed.



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Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

On 6/19/24 06:21, Anton Shepelev wrote:

But submitting the offending e-mail does not seem to be a
fire-and-forget procedure, as you then receive a reply with a link
to "finish spam reporting" on their website.

Agreed.

But forwarding spam samples (as a message/rfc822 attachment) and then
later logging into SpamCop's web interface and completing the 2nd half
for (multiple) submission(s) (in bulk) is easy enough.
[…]

How many reports do you confirm per (working) day?

In May case over 10 reports per day is "too much".
[ It had used to be over 50 reports per day [

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On 6/19/24 16:30, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:

How many reports do you confirm per (working) day?

It looks like I'm sending 5-10 per day. The vast majority of those are
fresh with very few too old (over the weekend type thing) to be accepted.

In May case over 10 reports per day is "too much".
[ It had used to be over 50 reports per day [

I don't recall receiving any notification that I've been sending too
many. I've had some days where I've sent 30.



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Grant Taylor to Anton Shepelev:

But submitting the offending e-mail does not seem to be
a fire-and-forget procedure, as you then receive a reply
with a link to "finish spam reporting" on their website.

Agreed.

Upon thus reporting an umpteenth spam email, I recevied a
message from the affected internet provider:

The complaint in question was forwarded to the client. We
gave him time to fix the problem, otherwise we will block
the server! Thank you for your cooperation.

Some of them pay heed, after all.

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:03:41 +0300
Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> wrote:

Hello, all

SpamCop[1] offers an option to report a SPAM e-mail by
forwardng it to a special address. Since various clients
handle forwardin differently and include different headers,
I wanted to ask if SpamCop will accept SPAM samples as
RFC822 attachmets, that is -- the complete contents of the
offending e-mails?
____________________
1. <https://www.spamcop.net/>

Yes. You'll need to get a special eMail address from them to
send your reports to. The instructions are available here:

SpamCop.net :: How do I submit spam via eMail?
https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/166.html

I've been doing this for at least 15 years, sending hundreds
of spam messages to them multiple times a day for analysis in
MIME Digest format (which is the recommend format, if you can
manage it -- Pegasus Mail supports MIME Digests of multiple
eMail messages beautifully, and I wish all eMail clients did
this as well as Pegasus Mail does). At any rate, it's
fantastic at it greatly reduces my spam-handling time, which
means I can focus more on other things.

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