• [Media] California requires 6_000 hours of training to identify junk em

    From Andrzej Adam Filip@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 08:31:35 2023
    https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/
    California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
    By Dylan Moore
    PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.

    How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
    belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably “zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
    Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
    identify spam *for a living* . […]

    How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

    --
    A. Filip

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Andrzej Adam Filip on Wed Nov 22 08:37:36 2023
    On 11/22/23 01:31, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
    How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

    How much are doctors / lawyers / etc. paid after multiple years earning
    degrees in their field?

    There is a big difference in doing something professionally with
    certification vs doing for yourself.

    You probably aren't going to sue yourself. Professionals may very well
    be sued by senders and / or recipients.



    Grant. . . .

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to anfi@onet.eu on Wed Nov 22 15:50:09 2023
    In article <anfi+ver464gi3f-nbm3@wp.eu>,
    Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote: >https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/
    California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
    By Dylan Moore
    PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21,
    2023 at 11:00 a.m.

    How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
    belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
    “zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
    Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
    identify spam *for a living* . […]

    How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)


    Where did this junk originate from
    ?

    --
    A. Filip


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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@21:1/5 to Andrzej Adam Filip on Wed Nov 22 22:29:35 2023
    On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:31:35 +0100, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:

    https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/
    California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
    By Dylan Moore
    PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.

    How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
    belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
    “zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
    Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
    identify spam *for a living* . […]

    How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

    I am trained with 245952 [1] hours. Suppose I am overqualified? What'd
    they pay me?

    [1] Have internet since 1995, 28 years ago, and spam from the first day I
    recognised.
    --
    Andreas

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  • From Andrzej Adam Filip@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Nov 23 09:16:24 2023
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <anfi+ver464gi3f-nbm3@wp.eu>,
    Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> wrote:
    https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/
    California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
    By Dylan Moore
    PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21,
    2023 at 11:00 a.m.

    How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an
    email belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is
    probably “zero.â€. But the California Bureau of Security and
    Investigative Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience
    before you can identify spam *for a living*.

    How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)


    Where did this junk originate from
    ?

    Google alerts had included it om my "spam" related news (not usenet) alerts.

    --
    A. Filip

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to John Levine on Thu Nov 23 17:12:15 2023
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I really wish that people would read the article rather than guess
    (wrong) about what it says.

    tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
    the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
    which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
    absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
    is silly here.

    The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
    Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
    helping him sue the state.

    They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual
    liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
    would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
    unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to
    accept very few plaintiffs, however.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 16:53:21 2023
    According to Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu>: >https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/
    California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
    By Dylan Moore
    PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.

    How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
    belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
    “zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
    Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
    identify spam *for a living* . […]

    I really wish that people would read the article rather than guess (wrong) about what it says.

    tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
    the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
    which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
    absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
    is silly here.

    The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
    Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
    helping him sue the state.

    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 20:13:22 2023
    According to Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
    tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
    the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator >>which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
    absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
    is silly here.

    The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the >>Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
    helping him sue the state.

    They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual >liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
    would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
    unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to >accept very few plaintiffs, however.

    IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
    their various podcasts like Short Circuit.

    I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
    other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to John Levine on Thu Nov 23 21:34:51 2023
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
    According to Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and >>>the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator >>>which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not >>>absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
    is silly here.

    The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the >>>Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
    helping him sue the state.

    They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual >>liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
    would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
    unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to >>accept very few plaintiffs, however.

    IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
    their various podcasts like Short Circuit.

    I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
    other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

    You want 7 noisy simultaneous arguments? Put two libertarians in the same
    room.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Nov 23 23:57:11 2023
    In article <ujoghq$203t9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
    According to Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and >>>>the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator >>>>which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not >>>>absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but >>>>is silly here.

    The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the >>>>Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are >>>>helping him sue the state.

    They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual >>>liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
    would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is >>>unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to >>>accept very few plaintiffs, however.

    IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
    their various podcasts like Short Circuit.

    I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
    other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

    You want 7 noisy simultaneous arguments? Put two libertarians in the same >room.

    ;-)
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Merry Christmas 2023 and Happy New year 2024 Beware https://mindspring.com

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