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    From David Ritz@21:1/5 to tjoen on Thu Aug 11 11:58:55 2022
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    On Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:26 +0200,
    in article <td3aj3$27b10$1@dont-email.me>,
    tjoen <tjoen@dds.invalid> wrote:

    Is this true? https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/11/23301554/google-gmail-spam-filters-republicans-gop-trump

    Please recall, the US gave a free pass to all political mailing, when
    the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 was signed into law, marking a significant
    step backward..

    It is likely true. It's based on the unsupported and baseless claim
    that the algorithms mail providers use, when filtering mail to Junk,
    have a built in bias against conservatives. While it may be frothing
    nonsense, this matter is already going further, with these two
    steaming turds introduced recently.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr8160
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s4409

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    David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
    Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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  • From Andrzej Adam Filip@21:1/5 to David Ritz on Sun Aug 14 18:27:34 2022
    David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:26 +0200,
    in article <td3aj3$27b10$1@dont-email.me>,
    tjoen <tjoen@dds.invalid> wrote:

    Is this true?
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/11/23301554/google-gmail-spam-filters-republicans-gop-trump

    Please recall, the US gave a free pass to all political mailing, when
    the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 was signed into law, marking a significant
    step backward..

    It is likely true. It's based on the unsupported and baseless claim
    that the algorithms mail providers use, when filtering mail to Junk,
    have a built in bias against conservatives. While it may be frothing nonsense, this matter is already going further, with these two
    steaming turds introduced recently.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr8160
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s4409

    Are "full implementation details" available?

    Excluding *registered* senders of political spam/"spam" from *standard*
    filters can be "softened" e.g. by special marking for use in personal filters/sorters.

    The devil is in the "details". Somehow I do not expect "barely but
    acceptable" implementation as the most likely outcome.

    --
    A. Filip

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to tjoen on Wed Aug 17 17:40:33 2022
    On Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:26 +0200, in article <td3aj3$27b10$1@dont-email.me>, tjoen <tjoen@dds.invalid> wrote:

    Is this true? https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/11/23301554/google-gmail-spam-filters-republicans-gop-trump

    It is true that Can-Spam specifically exempts political mail. And it is
    true that the FEC has accepted Google's proposal to allow campaign email.

    However, I don't think it's true at all that it will be a good thing for
    the Republican party. I think that this, like autodialers, are as apt to
    turn off voters as to appeal to them. And I also think that in the past
    the Republicans have totally misunderstood the internet while the Democrats have been better at taking advantage of it.

    But most importantly, I think it will be difficult to make sure that they
    are campaigning to people whom they can legally appeal to. I am already
    tired of getting email spam for elections in Guatemala. Sending email spam
    for American elections to Guatemalans is just as bad a plan.
    --scott


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Aug 17 19:29:17 2022
    In article <tdj96h$43$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:26 +0200, in article ><td3aj3$27b10$1@dont-email.me>, tjoen <tjoen@dds.invalid> wrote:

    Is this true?
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/11/23301554/google-gmail-spam-filters-republicans-gop-trump

    It is true that Can-Spam specifically exempts political mail. And it is
    true that the FEC has accepted Google's proposal to allow campaign email.

    However, I don't think it's true at all that it will be a good thing for
    the Republican party. I think that this, like autodialers, are as apt to >turn off voters as to appeal to them. And I also think that in the past
    the Republicans have totally misunderstood the internet while the Democrats >have been better at taking advantage of it.

    But most importantly, I think it will be difficult to make sure that they
    are campaigning to people whom they can legally appeal to. I am already >tired of getting email spam for elections in Guatemala. Sending email spam >for American elections to Guatemalans is just as bad a plan.
    --scott


    --
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