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  • Bravenet?

    From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 13 19:33:25 2021
    What is the story with Bravenet? We don't get a lot of email from them,
    but 100% of what we do get from them is spam. No obvious repeat offenders, though, which seems like a good thing at first. On the other hand, a traceroute shows that folks upstream from them are blocking ICMP so I
    can't even really see who their upstream is, and why would they do that
    if they were legit? Anyone know the story behind these guys? Are they
    honest or deliberately spam-hosting?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From tjoen@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Tue Sep 14 07:41:24 2021
    On 9/13/21 21:33, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    What is the story with Bravenet?

    I see only one spam from bravenet customer in 2006.
    Spammer's website closed

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  • From Bob Milutinovic@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Thu Sep 16 22:03:45 2021
    "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message news:sho925$bno$1@panix2.panix.com...
    What is the story with Bravenet? We don't get a lot of email from them,
    but 100% of what we do get from them is spam. No obvious repeat
    offenders,
    though, which seems like a good thing at first. On the other hand, a traceroute shows that folks upstream from them are blocking ICMP so I
    can't even really see who their upstream is, and why would they do that
    if they were legit? Anyone know the story behind these guys? Are they honest or deliberately spam-hosting?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

    Have you looked at the BGP? ICMP's not a particularly elegant way to track
    down their upstreams.

    FWIW, they're fed through Aptum (formerly Peer1), AS13768.

    BraveNet are quite respectable, especially given their business model. I've
    had an average of one spam per two years coming from their netspace, and
    never a repeat offender.

    Their upstream Aptum though isn't too proud to give connectivity to even the worst of scum - have a look at the other customers they're feeding and
    you'll see what I mean.


    --
    Bob Milutinovic
    Cognicom

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