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  • Oddity: primaria-calimanesti.ro

    From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 2 18:44:39 2021
    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top
    level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the popular
    Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only list running
    on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I've received routine Mailman notification (including server-assigned
    password) for May, June and July. I've never received any user-posted
    messages from the list. Grepping their subscriber list, I turned up
    five acquaintances who are on another (largely local) mailing list.
    Needless to say, neither I nor they ever subscribed to the list.

    I have no notion why email-owner@primaria-calimanesti.ro, whoever that
    might be, would collect so many user@host.CA addresses and then plug
    them into Mailman.

    Comments or candidate explanations of why/how this might happen welcome.

    (Yes, after downloading the subscriber list, I unsubscribed using their
    web interface.)


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Fri Jul 2 22:02:10 2021
    In article <87mtr4jsqg.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:


    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top
    level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the popular
    Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only list running
    on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I've received routine Mailman notification (including server-assigned >password) for May, June and July. I've never received any user-posted >messages from the list. Grepping their subscriber list, I turned up
    five acquaintances who are on another (largely local) mailing list.
    Needless to say, neither I nor they ever subscribed to the list.

    I have no notion why email-owner@primaria-calimanesti.ro, whoever that
    might be, would collect so many user@host.CA addresses and then plug
    them into Mailman.

    Comments or candidate explanations of why/how this might happen welcome.

    (Yes, after downloading the subscriber list, I unsubscribed using their
    web interface.)


    I am getting the same thing here as well.


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada


    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
    Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Muscle, brain, will... all must be exercised if they will be strong. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Jul 3 02:21:04 2021
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

    In article <87mtr4jsqg.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top
    level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the
    popular Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only
    list running on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I am getting the same thing here as well.

    There are 3 entries from the nl2k.ab.ca domain in the subscriber list.

    The address under which you're posting to nanae isn't on the list but
    a different one @doctor.nl2k.ab.ca is.

    FWIW,
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Sat Jul 3 12:32:47 2021
    In article <87im1sj7lr.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

    In article <87mtr4jsqg.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top
    level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the
    popular Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only
    list running on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/ >>
    I am getting the same thing here as well.

    There are 3 entries from the nl2k.ab.ca domain in the subscriber list.

    The address under which you're posting to nanae isn't on the list but
    a different one @doctor.nl2k.ab.ca is.


    I note I never signed up for such a service.

    FWIW,
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada


    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
    Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Punishing the law-abiding will have zero impact on crime. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Jul 3 14:30:04 2021
    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top >>>>level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the
    popular Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only
    list running on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I am getting the same thing here as well.

    There are 3 entries from the nl2k.ab.ca domain in the subscriber list.

    The address under which you're posting to nanae isn't on the list but
    a different one @doctor.nl2k.ab.ca is.

    I note I never signed up for such a service.

    Thank you, yads. Mike Spencer noted that "Someone has accumulated 198,783
    email addresses. . . ", that no email user willingly gave the list owner
    his email address. That includes you. At no point did anyone on or off
    Usenet in this universe or any other universe, at this point in history
    or at any point in the past or future, think that any one of these people, including you, subscribed his own email address.

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  • From David Ritz@21:1/5 to Mike Spencer on Sat Jul 3 13:53:45 2021
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    On Friday, 02 July 2021 18:44 -0300,
    in article <87mtr4jsqg.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>,
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top
    level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the popular
    Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only list
    running on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I've received routine Mailman notification (including
    server-assigned password) for May, June and July. I've never
    received any user-posted messages from the list. Grepping their
    subscriber list, I turned up five acquaintances who are on another
    (largely local) mailing list. Needless to say, neither I nor they
    ever subscribed to the list.

    I have no notion why email-owner@primaria-calimanesti.ro, whoever
    that might be, would collect so many user@host.CA addresses and then
    plug them into Mailman.

    Comments or candidate explanations of why/how this might happen welcome.

    After visiting the primaria-calimanesti.ro site, I notice that it
    lacks even the most trivial fraud prevention on their address
    acquisition web form. This suggests anyone could have submitted email addresses for this largely unmanaged mailing list.

    At least they provide a contact address,
    mailman@primaria-calimanesti.ro, at http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/. The page you
    included has a reference to email-owner@primaria-calimanesti.ro. It
    may be fully appropriate to suggest this list be retired.

    It appears there are no posts to this list prior to or after Wed Oct 7
    10:55:08 EEST 2015.

    (Yes, after downloading the subscriber list, I unsubscribed using
    their web interface.)

    As primaria-calimanesti.ro provides you with your user:pass, this
    would seem the one sure-fire way of avoiding further annoyance. This
    appears to be a clear example of Hanlon's razor in action.

    - --
    David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
    stupidity"

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Jul 3 22:35:33 2021
    In article <sbps9b$3ih$1@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Here's an oddity:

    Someone has accumulated 198,783 email addresses, all in the .CA top >>>>>level domain, and inserted them into a listserve running the
    popular Mailman mailing list manager. It appears to be the only
    list running on the server.

    http://primaria-calimanesti.ro/mailman/listinfo/email_primaria-calimanesti.ro/

    I am getting the same thing here as well.

    There are 3 entries from the nl2k.ab.ca domain in the subscriber list.

    The address under which you're posting to nanae isn't on the list but
    a different one @doctor.nl2k.ab.ca is.

    I note I never signed up for such a service.

    Thank you, yads. Mike Spencer noted that "Someone has accumulated 198,783 >email addresses. . . ", that no email user willingly gave the list owner
    his email address. That includes you. At no point did anyone on or off
    Usenet in this universe or any other universe, at this point in history
    or at any point in the past or future, think that any one of these people, >including you, subscribed his own email address.

    And I do not give any lists.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
    Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Punishing the law-abiding will have zero impact on crime. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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